Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Lately I've been questioning whether international sources are worth the risk. This game use to be more quiet and subtle. It seems recently steroids have become more mainstream and their users sloppy. Too many times I've seen people more concerned with letting everyone know that they have a source, when they should be trying to protect them by keeping their mouths shut. Anyway, I'm getting off track. Wth the increase of brainless consumers, and the increase of interest by law enforcement, it is making international ordering a very unsafe business. I would like to hear other opinions and experiences from the U.S. and overseas.
Is International Ordering Still Worth the Risk??
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hard life
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There was a recent bust in Regina, Canada where some guy who was making his own stuff got nabbed. They intercepted the pakage ahead of time and then staked him out. If it's a small amount then I wouldn't worry to much, but if it is enough to suspect intent to distribute then its not worth it.
Thanks for the welcoming mat Son, but doesn't matter how good your source is. The risk is always there. Again, My Question was how much $$$ is the risk of getting busted worth? Not is there risk involved? Or are my "Balls" big enough? Actually, I do remember long ago a source asking me what size my balls were....
Malak said:Thanks for the welcoming mat Son, but doesn't matter how good your source is. The risk is always there. Again, My Question was how much $$$ is the risk of getting busted worth? Not is there risk involved? Or are my "Balls" big enough? Actually, I do remember long ago a source asking me what size my balls were....
For me, the risk is worth it. I spend thousands on orders at a time.
Yes it does depend on how good your source is, the better they package, the less risk of a seizure.
DIV
2BIG4URMOM
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How much $$$ is the risk worth??
I would have to say it wouldn't bother me either way, I have only a speeding ticket as a prior so I'm not worried about jack.
Now a friend of mine should of been getting his pro card this year, but he got nailed. He told me a few days ago that he will never be able to compete, now for him I think he had the greater risk. He was so close that only most of us could dream about and to have his dreams smashed, you can't put a price tag on that!
I would have to say it wouldn't bother me either way, I have only a speeding ticket as a prior so I'm not worried about jack.
Now a friend of mine should of been getting his pro card this year, but he got nailed. He told me a few days ago that he will never be able to compete, now for him I think he had the greater risk. He was so close that only most of us could dream about and to have his dreams smashed, you can't put a price tag on that!
Personally I think domestic is the better choice...
I am paranoid enough without having to worry about customs agents doing a "knock and talk" with me
I am paranoid enough without having to worry about customs agents doing a "knock and talk" with me
The Terminator said:I am paranoid enough without having to worry about customs agents doing a "knock and talk" with me
I'll tell you one thing, Termie..........and this is REAL.
Customs tries to do a "knock and talk", I'll pull a "fuck off and walk"...shortly before I slam the door on those bitches....
DIV
DIVISION said:I'll tell you one thing, Termie..........and this is REAL.
Customs tries to do a "knock and talk", I'll pull a "fuck off and walk"...shortly before I slam the door on those bitches....
DIV
Me too...The ONE THING I learned from reading Legal Muscle MULTIPLE times was to shut your trap under ANY AND ALL circumstances when dealing with law enforcement
2BIG4URMOM said:How much $$$ is the risk worth??
I would have to say it wouldn't bother me either way, I have only a speeding ticket as a prior so I'm not worried about jack.
Now a friend of mine should of been getting his pro card this year, but he got nailed. He told me a few days ago that he will never be able to compete, now for him I think he had the greater risk. He was so close that only most of us could dream about and to have his dreams smashed, you can't put a price tag on that!
Be careful bro...Felony charges are much worse than a speeding ticket. Your friend is proof that a felony can affect you for life....be safe brothers.
The Terminator said:Me too...The ONE THING I learned from reading Legal Muscle MULTIPLE times was to shut your trap under ANY AND ALL circumstances when dealing with law enforcement
Yes......that's real.
Just STFU and hire Rick Collins' ASS to pull you out the FIRE!
DIV
2BIG4URMOM
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DIVISION said:I'll tell you one thing, Termie..........and this is REAL.
Customs tries to do a "knock and talk", I'll pull a "fuck off and walk"...shortly before I slam the door on those bitches....
DIV
No knock and talk here, I'll let them talk to my dogs.
2BIG4URMOM
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Wingnut32 said:
LOL, definately good tell signs if they have anything on you or not.
2BIG4URMOM said:
Yep, if the authorities are talking (or even wanting) to talk to you, you can bet your ass its NOT to help you out
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DR_KODIAK
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Malak said:
I HAVE BEEN ORDERING THROUGH AN INTERNATIONAL SOURCE FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS NOW AND I HAVE NEVER HAD ONE PROBLEM WITH DELIVERY OR ANYTHING. International is the best way to go.! thats my opinon.
Big Rick Rock
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I'm not sure that the international sources offer better "deals" unless you are talking about powders.
Right now Mexgear is pretty cheap and flowing in the USA...
Ummmm yeah,
I'm gonna spend $11 per 1ml/50mg Zambon shipped from Spain when I can get a 50mg/10ml bottle of Stan50 for $65 and it is Domestic. Where is the savings in going international? (hypothetical scenario, not real prices. I don't know any sources so don't even ask
Right now Mexgear is pretty cheap and flowing in the USA...
Ummmm yeah,
I'm gonna spend $11 per 1ml/50mg Zambon shipped from Spain when I can get a 50mg/10ml bottle of Stan50 for $65 and it is Domestic. Where is the savings in going international? (hypothetical scenario, not real prices. I don't know any sources so don't even ask
Big Rick Rock
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lol... we can go on and on about this.
What is "Human Grade" and what is "Vet Grade" when it comes to gear?
there are a couple of things to consider.
1- Purity in raw material. The powders imported from China/India are real hormones with all of the molecules in the right places.
2- Cleanliness. Is the gear infected with some kind bacteria that will harm your body?
3- Solvent content % per volume. Does the product contain more solvent (alcohol) than is needed to suspend hormones at that particular potency?
4- The product meets label claims for potency and volume.
This is what should be considered. Nothing more!
If the label say “for human use” or has the picture of a fucking slobbering Dog on it. As long as those 4 items are in order.... Pass me that shit!
What is "Human Grade" and what is "Vet Grade" when it comes to gear?
there are a couple of things to consider.
1- Purity in raw material. The powders imported from China/India are real hormones with all of the molecules in the right places.
2- Cleanliness. Is the gear infected with some kind bacteria that will harm your body?
3- Solvent content % per volume. Does the product contain more solvent (alcohol) than is needed to suspend hormones at that particular potency?
4- The product meets label claims for potency and volume.
This is what should be considered. Nothing more!
If the label say “for human use” or has the picture of a fucking slobbering Dog on it. As long as those 4 items are in order.... Pass me that shit!
Big Rick Rock
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All I have to say is:
Scoooooobie Dooooooobie Dooooooooo!
Scoooooobie Dooooooobie Dooooooooo!
BRR, if you could get them for the exact same price, would you rather take Human Grade gear, or Vet gear. I think that most people would opt for the human grade gear, even if its just for piece of mind. Ordering Int, and especially in larger quantities this stuff comes very close to mexi-gear. This is the stuff that doctors prescribe to patients for ailments. If price was not an issue between the two, I dont know why someone would choose to use puppy juice over the two.
Big Rick Rock
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Mavy said:
Good question.
Things to consider when buying gear.
1- Price ($ duh!)
2- How is it getting to you? (Is it going thru Customs before it gets to me? )
3- Is it what you want (Hormone type, Potency volumen)
Lets pretend price (#1) is the same between both human and Vet grade stuff.
#2 is big.... I rather pay same price to a dude in S.Cal or TX to ship "puppy juice" than pay some dude in Europe to ship the same stuff with a "huma grade" label on it... Less risk in ordering Domestic...
Ok lets drop the next scenario... Lets say both MexVet gear and EuroHuman grade are both the same price and both domestic... We have to contend with #3... Is is what I want and what is more convenient for me?
-I have said this is many post Before. I Luuuuuv EQ, I just do, the stuff is awesome.. It is not avalible in "Human Grade" I don't know of any docs prescribing the stuff, so I have no choise but to go Doggie on that one.
- I have yet to see 100mg Winstrol in "Human Grade" stuff, maybe its outhere but I have not seen it... You put a 100mg/20ml bottle of QV Stan100 on a table next to 40 50mg/ml Zambones... I'm sorry dude, I'm grabbing the big jug of doggie juice.
- I have yet to see anything higher then 100mg/ml of Deca in "human grade" Maybe it is outhere, I have not seen it.
So should I shoot 3cc of "human grade" stuff to get the same 300mg I can get from 1cc of "Deca300 Vet Gear" ? why would I shoot 3x the volumen to get the same dose... Pass me the puppy juice on the Deca too.
^^ These are just three options I would choose vet stuff over "human grade" if all other things where the same.
Other bros might find their own reasons to go vet aside from just price and avalibility.... Do they make "human grade" Tren Acetate? Maybe it is outhere, but I have not seen it. I don't like Tren, but some bros swear by it. Only way to get it is to: 1-Home brew it. 2- Buy it from an UG. 3- Go with some vet grade stuff.
If price and shipping local was the same, I would pick Sust250 over Enath250... But lets face it, Sust isn't that much better than plain Test Enath... and at $55 for a 250mg/10ml bottle of Test Enath and $8-$9 per amp of Sust250. You are taking up the ahole...
Fuck dude! a big 50ml jug o' Test Enath250 evens out to about $3 per 1-ml... Thats Full blown retail, domestic. $3 per every 250mg you can't beat that ....
Again.... these are all hypothetical scenarios, not real prices. I don't know any sources so don't even ask. This is a mock conversation, none of use really use steroids
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We have ordered 2 times from overseas and both shipments arrived in 7 days. We sweated the whole time though kept waiting on that dreadful knock on the door. My advice for what is worth is if you are lucky enough to find a domestic source use it. we hope we can do that for our next order. Just my 2 cents.
Big Rick Rock said:
....WAY TOO MUCH mock price talking in there 
Excidium28
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I say if your ordering internationaly, Dont sign for any pacage, and dont open it for another 3-4 days after you recive it. If they bust in ... it was a wrong address you were gonna go to the post office and return it but didnt have a chance....Im sure there's other ways around it.
DIVISION said:If you order international, sometimes you don't have a choice but to sign for a package. In that case, you just gotta use your best judgement and if something seems fishy don't accept it. I've never had any problems.
DIV
For me it would make a HUGE difference if I were signing for 20 amps from overseas or if it were 500 amps from an overseas source...
Alot of factors to consider here...
Excidium28
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The sender has an option to check if he wants you to sign the pacage or no. I would just tell my source no the check that option, and just have the pacage droped off.
BRR brings many good points but, so does Mavy. Here's a hypothetical situation...Say you've known a guy for a very long time and KNOW that he's an excellent business man. He throws a couple numbers at you say Human Grade Test for $.01 per mg but, min is 100,000 mgs. But, you also know many other Local business men who are as upstanding as the forementioned....just alittle more pricey but, without the risk of the larger volume.???
This is not a real situation just a question of whether saving money is worth the risk.
This is not a real situation just a question of whether saving money is worth the risk.
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