is hgh as dangerous as igf?

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

with all this hoo har around about igf being able to increase the rate of cancer cells, etc and after some indepth reserach i believie this is true and to be honest, as much as i wanna be a monster i dont wanna have a tumor growing in me at 1000mph in the near future as i care about my life and want to live long.
however, i know hgh increases igf for a short burst when you take it but not like long igf which hangs about for 10-12 hours in your body.
is hgh therefore safer in regards to cancerous growth than igf?

 

[BigCracker]

I think HGH is considerably safer-but when used with insulin improperly it can be deadly in an immediate way. IGF is something I won't fuck with-too many peeps in my family tree died from cancer already-although I will say most of their lifestyles were sedentary ones with no regard for nutrition, plenty of alcohol and tobacco use too.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

HEY BIG CRACKER,

what dose of hgh/slin do you use? (i used 10iu slin pwo before)
what would you recommend?

i have read shit loads and igf isnt for me either. no one in my family has had cancer yet (touch wood) but it worries me knowing i could speed up the process and life is too precious to gain a few lb of muscle but die young IMO.
unless your a pro, igf isnt worth it.
hgh works slightly differently though and it has loads of good research behind it so i`m opting for a 6 month cycle of that.

 

[sweed]

igf wont cause cancer it will only increase the size if taking igf when u already have the tumor.

 

[Nick Kov]

sorry to seem stupid but what is igf?

 

[sweed]

insulin-like growth factor

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

i know that igf will only speed up a tumor, but it cant actually give you cancer or a tumor.
however, most of us who have existing tumors or are pre disposed to cancer dont know it at present and using igf is like holding a gun to your head with two bullets in it - one real one and one blank then pulling the trigger.
we all wanna gain muscle and i DO want to use igf but am worried a lot by this fact. there is no screening test to indicate whether a tumor is lying dormant. i am 26, want to live to 80 or so and the thought of a tumor growing at 1000mph through using igf and dying at 40 isnt an option.
any thoughts?

 

[Nick Kov]

cheers buddy

 

[RADAR]

Sorry to burst your bubble but HGH will do the same thing if you have any dormant cancer cells!

RADAR

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

really!?
i thought that hgh only spiked igf levels for 15 mins and worked in other ways to produce muscle growth whereas igf is active for 10-12 hours and therefore can exert more damage?

bump for more info!

 

[Big_Joe]

It doesn't cause cancer but if you have it it will be cancer on steroids. But with that said I found this on medline the other day:
IGF-1 and Tren

It looks like one of the main ways that tren works is by increasing IGF-1 production in the liver. Now there are whole bunch of cows out there doing fina. Cancer does not seem to be a problem for them. SO it looks to me that if you have cancer already you're fucked. If you use tren or IGF and have cancer you're fucked on steroids.

Once more into the breach dear friends, once more into the breach and shore up the battlements with our British dead.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

there is no way though that fina increases your igf levels as much as injecting 50mcg of igf a day would though.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

if hgh carries the same risk in terms of speeding up cancerous growth as igf, then igf cant be that bad as i havent heard of many people at all having cancer from hgh and its been around for a good 10-15 years now.

 

[Quiltie]

"Cows don't get cancer from Tren"...? How do you know? The instructions on Tren pellets are "for feedlot heifers not more than 60 days before slaughter". Someone has to take a bunch of cows, give them large amounts of Tren for extended period, and slaughter them with an untreated control group- and autopsy both. And then send them to Ruths Chris to make some tasty steaks out of them. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW FOR SURE.

 

[slat1]

Sorry to burst your bubble but HGH will do the same thing if you have any dormant cancer cells!

RADAR

RADAR is 100% correct.
Also it should be noted that IGF-1 in a certain form has now been approved for growth diffeciency in children. One of the highlights in the approval was that the igf had less side effects than the hgh.

 

[hankes64]

IMO hGH is more dangerous.

 

[thelion2005]

Sorry to burst your bubble but HGH will do the same thing if you have any dormant cancer cells!

RADAR

True. Our bodies are full of such cells. Once they are triggered, they multiply.

Many things can trigger this change, including diet and environment. We all know this.

We also know that aas and HGH are powerful and can also trigger this result.

Life is a risk.

I do believe that moderation ups the chances in our favor.

 

[MassiveG300]

RADAR is 100% correct.
Also it should be noted that IGF-1 in a certain form has now been approved for growth diffeciency in children. One of the highlights in the approval was that the igf had less side effects than the hgh.

http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2005/021839lbl.pdf#search='Increlex'

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-31-2005/0004097000&EDATE=

http://www.increlex.com/wt/home

Neither IGF-1 or HGH will cause cancer as stated in this thread, but can accelerate it if you are genetically predisposed to it.

 

[Kachunga]

Thank you RADAR (by the way I was missing your posts) and SLAT1 for dismissing the paranoia. Complete nonsense that IGF-1 is as dangerous as HGH. And HGH is is only dangerous in the hands of a misinformed unexperienced newbie.

 

[slat1]

Both are dangerous if abused. Just like AAS. Remember you are playing with your body and your life. Take your time and do things the right way.

 

[NYBodyguard]

really!?
i thought that hgh only spiked igf levels for 15 mins and worked in other ways to produce muscle growth whereas igf is active for 10-12 hours and therefore can exert more damage?

bump for more info!

hgh alone will give u no muscle gains to talk about

 

[hankes64]

hgh alone will give u no muscle gains to talk about

You are right to a certain degree.

hGH causes hyperplasia which is the growth of NEW muscle fibers. Once you have new muscle fibers you can make your body anabolic (cycle) and make those bigger. There are your gains.

 

[Indy]

with all this hoo har around about igf being able to increase the rate of cancer cells, etc and after some indepth reserach i believie this is true and to be honest, as much as i wanna be a monster i dont wanna have a tumor growing in me at 1000mph in the near future as i care about my life and want to live long.
however, i know hgh increases igf for a short burst when you take it but not like long igf which hangs about for 10-12 hours in your body.
is hgh therefore safer in regards to cancerous growth than igf?

NO, HGH will do the same thing if you have a dormant tumor and IGF-1 is MUCH safer than HGH when used for Anabolic purposes. Using Slin with HGH should be enough to scare the shit out of you right there, only practiced individuals should so that, but that being said, not good for you in the long run, screw the Slin.