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Is fina a 17-aa AS????

Then explain to me "how" the people that are taking it orally are getting ANY results whatsoever??? If the active component (Tren) isnot protested from breakdown, "0" would be uptaken! So what the hell is going on here? And don't say placebo...too many cases of positive experiences!
 
I would still like to know exactly how toxic Fina is on kidneys/liver.

The whooping majority says it isn't toxic (and that it is not 17-aa), but I've yet to see straight-forward facts on this.

BUMP
 
you gotta be fucking kidding me....:rolleyes:

no its not..and people who are using it orallly?? the only oral use for it is if people crush it up into powder and stuff it under their lip (like dip) and allow the hormone to get into the blood system through the gum membrane (like tobacco and nicotine)

if you swallow it, you're just gonna get sick and shit it out..


:rolleyes:
 
Kakdiesel said:
you gotta be fucking kidding me....:rolleyes:

no its not..and people who are using it orallly?? the only oral use for it is if people crush it up into powder and stuff it under their lip (like dip) and allow the hormone to get into the blood system through the gum membrane (like tobacco and nicotine)

if you swallow it, you're just gonna get sick and shit it out..


:rolleyes:
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Bro...I use to think the same damn thing until I began spending time over at Fina Boards. Trust me..guys are swallowing them whole (10 pellets/day) and are bragging about there results! I am shocked as hell too!
 
They are not 17-aa but they are active orally. Remember it is an acetate ester and so is oral primo. Also remember that you have to take a lot more primo oraly than injections and the same is true for tren.
 
LOL

People are funny.

Will oral fina get you the physique of coleman? No

Will it give you gains out the ass? Yes

Simply put there are really no studies on its oral activity in humans and those of us who have took it orally have gotten fantastic results.

My first cycle was oral and part of my second(almost 6 weeks) one was oral to. The only reason I switched to injection at all is because I'm staying on so long, not because of results.

To say my vascularity and strength and mass gains is explainable by something else doesnt make sense. Ive been basically the same weight since I started injecting.
I notice no fucking difference. Of course absortion and results from fina very from individual to individual.

People will run off on placebo this or it must be something not realizing we don't know shit on how this is absorbed by humans orally. To debate all these people making gains on oral fina is almost laughable.

Of the people that say oral doesnt work. Hell these are the same people that need a gram of test and deca just to gain 20 lbs because their diet and training suck.

The only thing I think hampering oral fina is the so called peak blood level thing. For best results it should be taken 3 times a day. 2 is good, hell 1 will work for some people.

I'm 265-270 now with over 19 1/3 inch arms and about 11% bodyfat. Now if I want to get bigger I may have to stack some injectibles in the future no doubt, but oral fina can get you big and strong. Cost more. It depends on your goals. Most people now are telling me I'm big enough and I dont want to be a pro so it might be maintaining from here on out with more cuts.

Some people on other boards with the studies done on animals and oral absortion have put oral tren at around 30%. Could be higher in some lower in others. So 10 pellets a day will give you 60mg. Tren , the substance is able to stay intact for the must part, and is very orally active compared to other compounds.

I posted studies at the fina board but since than have lost the link.

Lets not forget people used to use this stuff at 37.5mg every other day and at most 75mg eod, now even 160lb 6'2 joe smoe thinks he has to do 75mg ED to grow.

In order to get a pro physique you will have to inject something along the way, but if you just want to look like a cut linebacker or defensive end or model or something, you could run oral fina and get your diet and training together and make serious gains.
 
Nice fugg'n post me2dammit- you just gave me a fina hardon. :p

I'm going to look more into this. I have never heard of taking it orally.

thanks for pointing me this way VJ :D


SOLID
 
Crush it and mix it with a little pinch of Skoal or Cope and put between your cheek and gum. I don't know how much will get carried into your bloodstream with the nicotine but the buzz will be nice. ;)

Disclaimer: I've never done Fina orally so I cannot attest to it's actual affects of being taken orally with or without a carrier. I have, however, injected it with very good results with the exception of goddam FINA NIPS.
 
karma 4 U..... you poor deprived soul.

*now let's hear some info on how harmful it could be to be taken orally. Anyone have some thoughts/info? This sounds all great but there's got to be a catch...


I couldn't give you karma, cause I need to spread it around before I can give more to you...so sorry :rolleyes:
 
Yes,I have changed my stance on this over the past half year or so,due to how many different folks I have seen have very good success with it.I do believe that injection gives far serious more delivery/results,but I also believe that tren can be used successfully orally as well.An old vet of the board I respect just recently e-mailed me to tell me that he is having tremendous results with it orally,and he has done both the injectible/transdermal route.It is non c-17aa,so hepatic stress will be nothing like our standard orals.Most of the feedback I've gotten has been very positive,and I must say I was surprised,I simply didn't think it would work.Live and learn.
 
Me and a friend both tried oral tren. I crushed the pellets and put them under the tongue while he just swollowed them whole.
Within a 6 week period we both gained about 10+ pounds.
Now the question- is one way better than the other? I thought my route would have gave me better absorbtion, but we both had similar results.
 
this is the same as doing Loeffler's oral trenbolone, right?

it's just like primo tabs where much more than the desired dose should be taken?
 
The Architect said:
Me and a friend both tried oral tren. I crushed the pellets and put them under the tongue while he just swollowed them whole.
Within a 6 week period we both gained about 10+ pounds.
Now the question- is one way better than the other? I thought my route would have gave me better absorbtion, but we both had similar results.
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Nice bro...maybe staking oral tren w/ injectable tren? lol and how much was the dosages u were taking bro? and what times.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Yes,I have changed my stance on this over the past half year or so,due to how many different folks I have seen have very good success with it.I do believe that injection gives far serious more delivery/results,but I also believe that tren can be used successfully orally as well.An old vet of the board I respect just recently e-mailed me to tell me that he is having tremendous results with it orally,and he has done both the injectible/transdermal route.It is non c-17aa,so hepatic stress will be nothing like our standard orals.Most of the feedback I've gotten has been very positive,and I must say I was surprised,I simply didn't think it would work.Live and learn.
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Holy Shit...It's nice to know Huck backs it! REAL NICE TO KNOW! That's almost the same as scientific evidence!:fro:
 
drveejay11 said:
Then explain to me "how" the people that are taking it orally are getting ANY results whatsoever??? If the active component (Tren) isnot protested from breakdown, "0" would be uptaken! So what the hell is going on here? And don't say placebo...too many cases of positive experiences!
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taking fina orally will yeild results, but its bioavalability is very low. and no its not C-17 ALKYLATED
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Yes,I have changed my stance on this over the past half year or so,due to how many different folks I have seen have very good success with it.I do believe that injection gives far serious more delivery/results,but I also believe that tren can be used successfully orally as well.An old vet of the board I respect just recently e-mailed me to tell me that he is having tremendous results with it orally,and he has done both the injectible/transdermal route.It is non c-17aa,so hepatic stress will be nothing like our standard orals.Most of the feedback I've gotten has been very positive,and I must say I was surprised,I simply didn't think it would work.Live and learn.
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How to use Tren orally:

1. Crush it up.
2. Use a kit and convert it, BUT DO NOT PUT THE OIL
3. Buy cyclodextrin powder.
4. Mix the two.
5. Let dry.

What do we have:

1. Sub-lingual Trenbolone with about a 30% delivery

This is about 3X as effective as just popping the pills.
(Which DO WORK, but at roughly 10%. This has been
discussed at AF).

Fonz
 
Nice Fonz. By the way, what the hell is cyclodextrin powder and what does it do (how does it deliver?) and where do you get it.

P.S. It's good to see Mods change a point of view if they really see evidence or something and don't just sit on a point of view because of old thinking or just because they don't want to appear "wrong" in a previous theory. As we have already found out many times, we don't exactly know what AS will do all the time. We have a good idea based on science and theory, but we dont always know the outcomes until we try them. Example: I remember when there was NO WAY Fina could cause gyno. That has since been blown out of the water.
 
Enigmaxxx7 said:
Nice Fonz. By the way, what the hell is cyclodextrin powder and what does it do (how does it deliver?) and where do you get it.

P.S. It's good to see Mods change a point of view if they really see evidence or something and don't just sit on a point of view because of old thinking or just because they don't want to appear "wrong" in a previous theory. As we have already found out many times, we don't exactly know what AS will do all the time. We have a good idea based on science and theory, but we dont always know the outcomes until we try them. Example: I remember when there was NO WAY Fina could cause gyno. That has since been blown out of the water.
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That is how we move forward buddy.A closed mind keeps us in the dark ages.Some are willing to think outside the box,while others stay trapped within it.Fonz might be on to something here:We may have to find an individual who will be willing(although discreetly,lol)to market such a solution.It would be fun to experiment with such an item!
 
Yeah

my old results post, I couldn't find it when I looked for it.

Looking at it makes me think it was so long ago.

Now if the post that I posted with the animal studies would suface you would see where I get my numbers of at least 30% absortion. I had it in the new to fina catagory in some oral fina post.

60mgs a day is not bad at all off of 10 pellets.

Since people are gaining 10,15,20 lbs of oral tren, these people have to be getting more than 10-20% absortion. Now when someone only gains 5lbs and diet and training were on, does that mean absortion was low? Maybe, or maybe they are just like those who inject and get the same thing, there bodies just respond differently.

The only thing to debate about oral fina is cost. Thats it. Maybe 6 months ago more people were like it doesnt work, now the only thing they can talk about is cost.

But at 35$ for a 10 day supply, and for most recreational users that being the only drug you might need, its still cheap as hell.

It would be very interesting for a study to be done on how tren is metabolized when taken orally. The shit is a mystery to me. When I first was getting involved with tren the oral numbers were 0-10% absortion, now they keep creeping up as more people report 10,15,20# gains and freakish strength.

I know pat arnold also said it is better taken orally than transdermal. He stated something about trens structure making it work when taken orally, but having to take it 4 times a day. Well me and most people have taken it 2 times a day with fantastic results so 4 may be stretching it. But like I said, nobody really knows that much about oral tren yet.

Hell is the shit gets any cheaper and more people realize oral works people will probaly carry the shit around like tic-tacs.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:


That is how we move forward buddy.A closed mind keeps us in the dark ages.Some are willing to think outside the box,while others stay trapped within it.Fonz might be on to something here:We may have to find an individual who will be willing(although discreetly,lol)to market such a solution.It would be fun to experiment with such an item!
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Yeah, tell us more about this cyclodextrin powder. I'm always ready to be a guinea pig. Hey seriously, I kinda was joking yesterday but then I started thinking about it.....breakdown the fina pellets with BA just like preparing it for injection. Then filter it into a dip of Skoal and let the nicotine carry it into your blood stream. Seems like the absorption would be higher than just crushing the pellets and holding it under your tongue due to the BA and nicotine. Yes? No? Maybe? Huck? Fonz?

Fuckit I think I'm gonna try. I just finished my cycle 3 weeks ago so I'll wait 2 or 3 more months and try it without stacking anything to see how effective it is.
 
Heck, I think I might try it in a couple of days. I'm about ready to start the Tren but haven't prepared it yet. One bad thing though is that I'm currently on test also, so I couldn't truly measure it's effectivness.
What are your opinions on adding the Tren to skoal or something similar, like Enigmaxxx7 stated? do you think it'll help absorb more?
 
So is it any more harmful to take it orally that shoot it? Internally how could it effect organs, tissues, is it any more toxic?
 
Re: Yeah

me2dammit said:
my old results post, I couldn't find it when I looked for it.

Looking at it makes me think it was so long ago.

Now if the post that I posted with the animal studies would suface you would see where I get my numbers of at least 30% absortion. I had it in the new to fina catagory in some oral fina post.

60mgs a day is not bad at all off of 10 pellets.

Since people are gaining 10,15,20 lbs of oral tren, these people have to be getting more than 10-20% absortion. Now when someone only gains 5lbs and diet and training were on, does that mean absortion was low? Maybe, or maybe they are just like those who inject and get the same thing, there bodies just respond differently.

The only thing to debate about oral fina is cost. Thats it. Maybe 6 months ago more people were like it doesnt work, now the only thing they can talk about is cost.

But at 35$ for a 10 day supply, and for most recreational users that being the only drug you might need, its still cheap as hell.

It would be very interesting for a study to be done on how tren is metabolized when taken orally. The shit is a mystery to me. When I first was getting involved with tren the oral numbers were 0-10% absortion, now they keep creeping up as more people report 10,15,20# gains and freakish strength.

I know pat arnold also said it is better taken orally than transdermal. He stated something about trens structure making it work when taken orally, but having to take it 4 times a day. Well me and most people have taken it 2 times a day with fantastic results so 4 may be stretching it. But like I said, nobody really knows that much about oral tren yet.

Hell is the shit gets any cheaper and more people realize oral works people will probaly carry the shit around like tic-tacs.
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Sounds awesome. Just 2 times a day at 60mg. I will try stacking this w/ injection and see how it bumps up my strength and mass. How was your sides? Back pains, foul odor or darker urine, or increased agitation?
 
I've tried oral fina and also fina with DMSO. Results:
Fina with DMSO, applied before bedtime on my ancle. Put on a tablespoon of DMSO on one ankle, Chruched up 3 tabs and mixed with the DMSO. Wrapped up my ankle with plastic foil(saran wrap??). Went to bed and in the morning I removed the plastic wrap and left was, nothing but some water.
After one week my muscles were hard as rocks, but no strength gains. My pumps vere amazing. 2 weeks and bodyweight up about 2lb, bodyfat down. Strength on my bench up 8-10lb. 3 week and bodyweight up even more, also fat had dropped about 1.5-2%. My ankle started to itch a bit. A couple of days later I woke up with my ankle and foot red as a tomato. It had spots all over with fluid in them, about 1 bilion of them. I got scared and went to the ER. They diagnosed me with Poison Allergi. Results: Bench up 18lb, bw up 5-6lb, dropped fat about 2.5%. Side effects: Poison Allergi not from the DMSO but from the fina. I got fina-dick after about 4 days, I mean not like it was hard to get up, It was impossible. It was DEAD! Also VERY tired...Nice work ey ;)

Oral:
Tried 6 pellets taken orally. # in the morning and 3 before bedtime. I chruched them and put them under my tongue. I kept them there for 10 minutes without swallowing. After 10 minutes I swollowed and almosed pucked. Tip: NEVER drink cold water after doing this, It will make you think your mouth is on fire. I waited 5 minutes and then drank some water. Resluts. It took me 2 weeks to notice this "rock hard muscles". After 2 weeks I sterted gaining strength, nothing much. 3 weeks in and I started to drop fat like crazy. I bumped my calorie intake and gained about 2lb that weeks and dropped a lot of fat. Nights were almost killing me and it felt like I was doing DNP. Did a 4 week cycle and then stopped.
Results: Bench up some 10lb, bw up 2-3lb, fat down a few %. Awsome pumpsSides: Fina dick again, always tired.

I know now that one should never do fina oral or with DMSO alone, without some test.

When I look back on it I must say I will never do it orally or with DMSO again. It seems so much easier and better(of course) to inject the fina.
 
I am here simpl to add

I understand that oral (and transdermal) methods were somewhat of a pain in the rear BUT for those of us who can't stand the thought of doing ED or even EOD injections; it seems like a very do-able thing! I get so sick and tired of people saying "just inject"! It gets on my f'cking nerves! MAYBE I DON'T WANT TO INJECT EVERY DAMN DAY or MAYBE I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT JUSTIFIABLE REASON AS TO WHY (MY F'ING BUSINESS BY THE WAY) I DON'T WANT TO! There are plenty of bro's in my position who are content with knowing THERE ARE INDEED OTHER METHODS OF delivery for such an awesome AS such as Tren!

I work out for recreational reasons and DO NOT enjoy sticking myself ED or EOD for that matter! That's my F'ing business and I'm NOT on this board LOOKING TO WIN OVER THE MASSES OR PLEASE ANYONE OVER FOR THAT MATTER! I am in NO WAY seeking the approval of anyone on this board! I am here to add where I am able to add advice/opinions/support and to educate myself from all the knowledge that is present on this board and sometmes masked by all the stupidity!

Sorry, a little OFF the subject I know, BUT...I'm just sick of people calling other people on this board pussies and whatever else because some people DO NOT ENJOY ed injections! Grow the F'ck up and realize the boards are for educational purposes, NOT for bragging grounds on how many times per day you can stick a needle in your ass! Besides, I would say that only about 5% or less of the members have the physiques to compete anyway. ED or EOD injections JUST DON'T SEEM like they're worth it! IMHO!

For the love of God! Do what's right and comfortable for you!!!! F'ck everyone else! There are a myriad of AS that you can choose from that would only require 1x/week injections!!! So F'ck it! That's what I will plan to do for the rest of my recreational bodybuilding career-rely on these weekly or twice weekly injections!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
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drveejay11 said:
I understand that oral (and transdermal) methods were somewhat of a pain in the rear BUT for those of us who can't stand the thought of doing ED or even EOD injections; it seems like a very do-able thing! I get so sick and tired of people saying "just inject"! It gets on my f'cking nerves! MAYBE I DON'T WANT TO INJECT EVERY DAMN DAY or MAYBE I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT JUSTIFIABLE REASON AS TO WHY (MY F'ING BUSINESS BY THE WAY) I DON'T WANT TO! There are plenty of bro's in my position who are content with knowing THERE ARE INDEED OTHER METHODS OF delivery for such an awesome AS such as Tren!

I work out for recreational reasons and DO NOT enjoy sticking myself ED or EOD for that matter! That's my F'ing business and I'm NOT on this board LOOKING TO WIN OVER THE MASSES OR PLEASE ANYONE OVER FOR THAT MATTER! I am in NO WAY seeking the approval of anyone on this board! I am here to add where I am able to add advice/opinions/support and to educate myself from all the knowledge that is present on this board and sometmes masked by all the stupidity!

Sorry, a little OFF the subject I know, BUT...I'm just sick of people calling other people on this board pussies and whatever else because some people DO NOT ENJOY ed injections! Grow the F'ck up and realize the boards are for educational purposes, NOT for bragging grounds on how many times per day you can stick a needle in your ass! Besides, I would say that only about 5% or less of the members have the physiques to compete anyway. ED or EOD injections JUST DON'T SEEM like they're worth it! IMHO!

For the love of God! Do what's right and comfortable for you!!!! F'ck everyone else! There are a myriad of AS that you can choose from that would only require 1x/week injections!!! So F'ck it! That's what I will plan to do for the rest of my recreational bodybuilding career-rely on these weekly or twice weekly injections!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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LOL.....you should have seen the amount of flak I caught
doing orals-only.

It does get to be a drag(injecting), specially in the
morning when you're tired.

Fonz
 
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drveejay11 said:
I am here to add where I am able to add advice/opinions/support and to educate myself from all the knowledge that is present on this board and sometmes masked by all the stupidity!
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HEY! Was that aimed towards me!?!?:)

Nah, I agree with you. I hate injecting any more than I have to. I think when I start Tren I'll inject 2 times per week (when I inject my test) and the rest of the days I'll take it in orally. Everyone should do what feels comfortable to him/her. It's his/her body!


And it seems to that when I begin a cycle I can inject everyday, but as the cycle goes on, I get less and less fond of sticking myself. -Mainly due to the scar tissue build-up which makes it hurt more.
 
naw

hardly any sides. No fina dick for me. I have no explanation for that one. I seem to be in the very small minority on that one.

Yeah urine will smell funny if you aint drinking enough water. Once you up H20 no problems.

I tend to only get acne in the begining and on clomid, probaly due to the body "changing up", right now maybe just 1 or 2 little bumps on my whole body.
 
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Fonz said:


LOL.....you should have seen the amount of flak I caught
doing orals-only.

It does get to be a drag(injecting), specially in the
morning when you're tired.

Fonz
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Damn....I got Fonz and Huck to agree with me on this thread!!! I feel kind of warm and fuzzy inside:)

Now...anyone here think Fonz doesn't know his shit is a f'cking moron!
 
All right....I'm taking the guiney pig plunge! I just began my fina cycle. I'm doing oral AND plogel instaed on injecting. I figure...the shit's so damn cheap (relatively speaking)...why not??

8 pellets/day equals 160 mg fina (2 split dosages)
4 pellets/day mixed with plogel equals 80 mg/day(2 split dosages)

I figure I will get 20% absorption from the orals = 32 mg/day
I figure I will get 50% absorption from the plogel mix = 40 mg/day

This totals 72 mg/day (a typical dose for injection users).

Why am I doing this? I think that if I could pop a couple of pills per day and rub some gel on myself daily INSTEAD of injecting every day....IT'S A NO-BRAINER! Easy as hell to do!

I will be adding this to my EQ (400 mg/wk) I am already on. Wish me luck! have already been on for 3 weeks now.

This cycle will cost about $100 per month!!!

:D
 
Pretty good man, although I would have just done the 10 pellets a day to start. My theory is you are doing both so you really wont know what was really effective for you in the future.

It would be easy to see what works best by maybe just doing one or the other for a cycle. That way in the future you will know better on what works for you.

Some people will get better transdermal absortion and others will get better oral. It just happens that way for some reason.

Good luck!!!

And remember eat and lift your ass off you wont be disappointed!!
 
I hear you bro! I'm just doing a little experiement about delivering the fina via 2 different mechanisms (oral + transdermal)
to see if I can get close to an effect of injection. I figured since some are experiencing effects from oral and some from transdermal----I figured on oa sort of synergy; or better yet....hitting my body with fina from 2 different routes!

By the way...you were my inspiration on this one bro! Karma!:D
 
Alfons said:
I've tried oral fina and also fina with DMSO. Results:
Fina with DMSO, applied before bedtime on my ancle. Put on a tablespoon of DMSO on one ankle, Chruched up 3 tabs and mixed with the DMSO. Wrapped up my ankle with plastic foil(saran wrap??). Went to bed and in the morning I removed the plastic wrap and left was, nothing but some water.
After one week my muscles were hard as rocks, but no strength gains. My pumps vere amazing. 2 weeks and bodyweight up about 2lb, bodyfat down. Strength on my bench up 8-10lb. 3 week and bodyweight up even more, also fat had dropped about 1.5-2%. My ankle started to itch a bit. A couple of days later I woke up with my ankle and foot red as a tomato. It had spots all over with fluid in them, about 1 bilion of them. I got scared and went to the ER. They diagnosed me with Poison Allergi. Results: Bench up 18lb, bw up 5-6lb, dropped fat about 2.5%. Side effects: Poison Allergi not from the DMSO but from the fina. I got fina-dick after about 4 days, I mean not like it was hard to get up, It was impossible. It was DEAD! Also VERY tired...Nice work ey ;)

Oral:
Tried 6 pellets taken orally. # in the morning and 3 before bedtime. I chruched them and put them under my tongue. I kept them there for 10 minutes without swallowing. After 10 minutes I swollowed and almosed pucked. Tip: NEVER drink cold water after doing this, It will make you think your mouth is on fire. I waited 5 minutes and then drank some water. Resluts. It took me 2 weeks to notice this "rock hard muscles". After 2 weeks I sterted gaining strength, nothing much. 3 weeks in and I started to drop fat like crazy. I bumped my calorie intake and gained about 2lb that weeks and dropped a lot of fat. Nights were almost killing me and it felt like I was doing DNP. Did a 4 week cycle and then stopped.
Results: Bench up some 10lb, bw up 2-3lb, fat down a few %. Awsome pumpsSides: Fina dick again, always tired.

I know now that one should never do fina oral or with DMSO alone, without some test.

When I look back on it I must say I will never do it orally or with DMSO again. It seems so much easier and better(of course) to inject the fina.
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I was under the impression that w/ transdermal you had to apply it twice a day.
 
drveejay11 said:
I hear you bro! I'm just doing a little experiement about delivering the fina via 2 different mechanisms (oral + transdermal)
to see if I can get close to an effect of injection. I figured since some are experiencing effects from oral and some from transdermal----I figured on oa sort of synergy; or better yet....hitting my body with fina from 2 different routes!

By the way...you were my inspiration on this one bro! Karma!:D
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are you using DMSO, or something else?
 
wow you got that shit quick Veejay. Started it already huh...damn- let me know how it goes....have any bromo on hand?

ping me when you get a chance
 
Iwan2bsolid2 said:
wow you got that shit quick Veejay. Started it already huh...damn- let me know how it goes....have any bromo on hand?

ping me when you get a chance
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Yeah...no kidding. I got it 3 days after I ordered it!!! It was not even express! Damn good service. PM me if you need the addy!

By the way, I've had it for a week now (since the other stuff apparantly wasn't going to work!!!!) and was considering doing the whole conversion thing followed by the damn injection EOD thing and I pussed out and then I said f'ck it, I'm going to try the oral + transdermal thing!

I started today!
 
those anti (- is fina a 17aa?) guys arn't going to be happy about this but bump - keep me posted on your results my brudda. Oh and what about bromo you got some on hand or what?:doublefi:
 
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