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IP has been producing and selling BD Counterfeits!

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Early today, I was contacted by my good friend at British Dragon (Yeah, I know British Dragon personally), and told that IP had been caught producing counterfeit BD products. After looking through several Links and photos, I have come to the conclusion that IP has indeed been producing most of the fake BD on the black market today. Here's a full report, with links, from BD (in quotes below). Although I have known about this situation for awhile, BD has asked me to hold off posting this information until IP was given a chance to explain himself- which was not done, and instead, a cover-up seems to have been attempted. Anyway, here's the info from BD, verifying these claims:


hi all

basically IP has been caught red handed, after getting more than
200 emails about a BD oxandrolone whihc was the wrong color
I had no choice but to defend our brand from copies/fakes etc, ip
has been selling copied bd tabs to his remailers and pushing them
as original BD product,
IP has his own brand and probaly more than enough business but can
help to get that extra $,also his australia remailer ozbodz aka
flex2x has been sending bd injects with oil and bd labels
sent to him by IP, the australian remailers website still shows
british dragon on there (www.iplabsonline.com), also a chinese
trading company has been advertising tabs they make
check the picture attached and blow it up IP and BD tabs together
hmmmmmm

now the pictures of the copied oxandrolone are here
http://www.britishdragon.com/latestnews.asp clear difference on
tabs,


there are hundreds of threads flaming IP everyday, this however is
not to flame or bash IP this problem cam from him to us

since all this was revealed , IP has tried the following

on some IP remailers lists the british dragon products have been
renamed bodiez by design products so they can say was a mistake
and thats why the tabs were BD, why would bodiez by design on the
same say as the exposure starts become a tab producer with the
exact same mould as british dragon for their tabs

next excuse was that this that the tabs are from www.british-
dragon.com (a copy website in hongkong) which Ip says is the
producer of these copied tabs, since this knock off
company does not even make tabs and they dont actually exist
outside of a attorneys office or have any licenses as the info
below proves

anyone in hong kong can register a company by any name and also
register a trade mark but having an attorneys office has nothing to
do with being a legit pharm company

here is the contact part of british-dragon.com
http://www.british-dragon.com/contacts.shtml

compare the address with the attorneys office which is where they
are registered http://www.oln-law.com/ exactly the same, also
welcome to call attorneys office in hong kong and ask them if
britishdragon is registered there, an offshore company with a
trademark in a lawyers office is a big difference to a licensed
company

anyway incase you wonder if british-dragon.com had a license here
is the hong kong government website of licensed pharma companies in
hong kong (note the url has .gov in it so it is the government not
same ficitious website)

http://www.psdh.gov.hk/eps/index.jsp

no british dragon there,

lastly even this british-dragon.com has a different logo than us
atleast they had the decency not to try and copy our logo,

you can make as many reasons as possible for the BD tabs but when
you have IP and I am sure more than enough business why did you go
down this route ?


for customers protection I would suggest all buyers beware of
british dragon knock off and fakes and check the approved suppliers
section of the www.britishdragon.com
to make sure your supplier is an approved BD supplier.
 
What a suprise been trying to tell people to stay away but some people will swear by him. Go figure.
 
anthony roberts said:
Early today, I was contacted by my good friend at British Dragon (Yeah, I know British Dragon personally), and told that IP had been caught producing counterfeit BD products. After looking through several Links and photos, I have come to the conclusion that IP has indeed been producing most of the fake BD on the black market today. Here's a full report, with links, from BD (in quotes below). Although I have known about this situation for awhile, BD has asked me to hold off posting this information until IP was given a chance to explain himself- which was not done, and instead, a cover-up seems to have been attempted. Anyway, here's the info from BD, verifying these claims:
your bout 2 weeks to late with all this info .It broke over at outlaw when L~H was dumping this garbage and admitted where he got it from a IPremailer.with another ipremailer rebottling ip stuff and using bd labels .
atleast you have some credability and people respect you anthony .When it
came from italianmuscles mouth the ip dealers fired back at him calling him a liar

I think italian muscle broke the story on a few boards after being scammed himself a few weeks ago, I have respect for Italian muscle he personally seeks scammers and rip off artist and exposes them public to save other people from getting ripped.I heard he even makes house calls to these scammers and has earned the nickname "the italianterminator"

but thanks for your official post
 
chazk said:
your bout 2 weeks to late with all this info .

I posted it when British Dragon wanted it posted, after speaking with them....i.e. when they had finished conducting their investigation, and were satisfied with that their conclusions were true, and after IP declined their invitation to defend himself.
 
The sad thing is I was just over on Outlaw and these idiots are saying since he apologized that he is a stand up guy and everything is fine. Are these people that naive or just plain dumb?
 
anthony roberts said:
Early today, I was contacted by my good friend at British Dragon (Yeah, I know British Dragon personally), and told that IP had been caught producing counterfeit BD products. After looking through several Links and photos, I have come to the conclusion that IP has indeed been producing most of the fake BD on the black market today. Here's a full report, with links, from BD (in quotes below). Although I have known about this situation for awhile, BD has asked me to hold off posting this information until IP was given a chance to explain himself- which was not done, and instead, a cover-up seems to have been attempted. Anyway, here's the info from BD, verifying these claims:
also to add to it its all fake every single BD china knock off product go to that hong kong site its been up and running around a year the same amount of time ips been selling bd products they list all the products the produce its whole fucking list liquids and tabs. so everything ip has ever pushed that is bd all came from these guys its obvious and on another note the fake Bd guys fucked up they made a batch a lot off color and still tried to sell it rather then just throw in in the dumpster and taking a loss.download the fake list and prices it will blow your mind!
 
mookie said:
The sad thing is I was just over on Outlaw and these idiots are saying since he apologized that he is a stand up guy and everything is fine. Are these people that naive or just plain dumb?


i think those guys just want refunds that he is offering....me being one em.
 
truckdaddy said:
i think those guys just want refunds that he is offering....me being one em.
Well I can see you wanting a refund but look at some of the post over there there saying he apologized he is stand up guy and they back him 100% that it was a misunderstanding like it is normal for a business to be run that way.
 
truckdaddy said:
i think those guys just want refunds that he is offering....me being one em.
Also he should give you a refund you shouldn't have to say he is a stand up guy to get a refund.
 
oulaw is full of idiots
yea some dude juiced2damax witha real creepy looking avatar. always jumps in and claims" IP is a stand up bro" ..." IP has been reall good to me" now he is saying "IP is making things right" lmfao these guys are doche bags over at outlaw IP has sold knock off organons ,karachis and now briths dragon that we know of for sure no telling IP has copied or under doses I bet his hgh was garbage as well.

its all trash its all fucking trash .
but this will blow over and in 2 years all the people will be pushing his trash once more saying how ip is a good bro and all that shit. seems to be a 2 year cycle .ip is garbage then gives out free roids to mods has a big sale a few times geta few newbies that dont know what to expect hooked on the juice and they wonder why they are on 1000mg of test a week with 100mg of anadrol and gained 5 lbs. its just fucking insane.

next person that says on this board " ip is a good bro " or "ip stuff worked for me" i'll fucking puke.
 
IP also lists QV. I wondered if he just had boxes left over from before the bust. Now I doubt it. That is trademark infringement on BD and QV, huge scam. But in the UG business, you really don't have laws to protect you, only reputation. IP's deceiving his customers. Not a good sign.
 
BBkingpin said:
IP also lists QV. I wondered if he just had boxes left over from before the bust. Now I doubt it. That is trademark infringement on BD and QV, huge scam. But in the UG business, you really don't have laws to protect you, only reputation. IP's deceiving his customers. Not a good sign.

IP has, in the past, manufactured fake QV (accurately dosed, but fake). Sorry...I should have mentioned that. Oh...and remember about a year ago...the Sustanon amps that were overfilled by 10% too much oil? That was an IP counterfeit also (slightly overfilled, and overdosed, but counterfeit).
 
this isnt a good look, Doe's this mean that they wern't good quality? or just rip off's? for example if you were using them they wouldn't work or is it just that fact that he was being a sneeky c*nt? i was going to order from him tommorrow but am not sure now
 
anthony roberts said:
IP has, in the past, manufactured fake QV (accurately dosed, but fake). Sorry...I should have mentioned that. Oh...and remember about a year ago...the Sustanon amps that were overfilled by 10% too much oil? That was an IP counterfeit also (slightly overfilled, and overdosed, but counterfeit).


THANK YOU ANTHONY!!

I have been trying to tell everyone EYE PEE is garbage for years!!,

and what is funny is they simply come out and say "we are sorry" and all the eye pee ass kissers are like....."wow, standup guys here".....fucking hillarious!!
 
drrman said:
THANK YOU ANTHONY!!

I have been trying to tell everyone EYE PEE is garbage for years!!,

and what is funny is they simply come out and say "we are sorry" and all the eye pee ass kissers are like....."wow, standup guys here".....fucking hillarious!!
LOL!!! ;) The whole IP bullshit is hillarious! Fuck it! Anyone who use that crap considered to be his remailer! ;)
 
Retabolil2 said:
LOL!!! ;) The whole IP bullshit is hillarious! Fuck it! Anyone who use that crap considered to be his remailer! ;)


what?? i thought you and EYE PEE trained together on the weekends!! lol

it is funny huh ret
 
paging tbolking. hey buddy where are you thought that 20mg of eye pee var had you pumped like 150mg of tren ace in 6 hours of use. where are you i thought eye pee was magic. i am so upset now
 
Anthony, thanks for the informative information.. I was one of the members over on OLM that bought some of the fake anavars. I seen the apology, and its bullshit. The remailer that sold me the fakes, still wont offer me an apology, just my cash back. Its not about the money, its about IP deceiving everyone with fakes, knockoffs and counterfeits.. Apparently the apology applies to everyone but me, because the remailer said so himself he is not apologizing to me..

Im sick of everyone backing IP. When will you people learn, he is a con artist.. He works off popular products, and produces counterfeits.. Karachis,QV, Denkall, BD, somatropin(claims its unlabled gensci brand).

I just received some pics of IPs denkall products and will post up pics shortly. Im waiting for a few more angles.. His denkall is counterfeit.. yellow tops different, brown vials different color shades, stoppers different and text is different.. One was purchased from a legit mexican supplier, the other is an IP knockoff. They are side by side, you be the judge.. Stay tuned for pics..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Anthony, thanks for the informative information.. I was one of the members over on OLM that bought some of the fake anavars. I seen the apology, and its bullshit. The remailer that sold me the fakes, still wont offer me an apology, just my cash back. Its not about the money, its about IP deceiving everyone with fakes, knockoffs and counterfeits.. Apparently the apology applies to everyone but me, because the remailer said so himself he is not apologizing to me..

Im sick of everyone backing IP. When will you people learn, he is a con artist.. He works off popular products, and produces counterfeits.. Karachis,QV, Denkall, BD, somatropin(claims its unlabled gensci brand).

I just received some pics of IPs denkall products and will post up pics shortly. Im waiting for a few more angles.. His denkall is counterfeit.. yellow tops different, brown vials different color shades, stoppers different and text is different.. One was purchased from a legit mexican supplier, the other is an IP knockoff. They are side by side, you be the judge.. Stay tuned for pics..
i cant wait for the tests from those fake come back....i donated $25 to farthertime for em.
 
Hes "IP" also selling knock off british despencry 5mg anabol how do I know? I got a 100 of them .They came in a plain poil bag no halogram or anything.
 
cambridge1918 said:
Hes "IP" also selling knock off british despencry 5mg anabol how do I know? I got a 100 of them .They came in a plain poil bag no halogram or anything.


join the club bro!!!
 
Great post Anthony,

Been posting for the last few weeks about this and the fake QV running around that several golden sources were passing as the real stuff....
 
Tbolking.. come on out dawg.. I know you're out there..

DRRMAN.. hahah.. brotha, as soon as I read this, I knew you'd come running out.. EYE PEE mothafuckas!! lol..

That's why I love my UGL's out there!!!!!!!

T-Matt
 
Terry posted the AR thread over at Pro Muscle....and I have to tell you guys...the feedback he and I got was not good.....They still defend this fucker after all the shit thats going on....
and then Ip tried bringing in BBD who in my book is a top notch guy...I have a few friends who use him exclusively...

Its just 1 fucking lie after another lie after another.....My bet is...He'll get through this and in a little while it'll be the same shit..different proiduct..

Its like a child you keep letting him get away with it and with no punishment...sure as shit he'll do it again.....
 
Big O said:
Terry posted the AR thread over at Pro Muscle....and I have to tell you guys...the feedback he and I got was not good.....They still defend this fucker after all the shit thats going on....
and then Ip tried bringing in BBD who in my book is a top notch guy...I have a few friends who use him exclusively...

Its just 1 fucking lie after another lie after another.....My bet is...He'll get through this and in a little while it'll be the same shit..different proiduct..

Its like a child you keep letting him get away with it and with no punishment...sure as shit he'll do it again.....


this is the exact reason i am so ANTI EYE PEE......one reason i call out all his garbage on every thread relating to his shit that i see on here.....but some don't care, they buy it anyways
 
I used to do that but i think i started to loose respect from the there following....

I also do the same thing with Andropen...garbage...and i was told from an inside rep who now owns a board with Genx that the stuff should have never been put out there because it was in fact a bad batch....never got anything from it either...

I'm with ya drrman...I'm dead honest and it sounds like your from the same mold..
 
Ulter said:
I am shocked and appalled. A stand up guy like IP doing that. What's this world coming to when you can't even trust IP.

If IP is a stand up guy then who is Ret?! Jesus! Since then IP considered to be a stand up guy?! His reputation been down the toilet for years! :evil:
 
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Retabolil2 said:
If IP is a stand up guy then who is Ret?! Jesus! Since then IP considered to be a stand up guy?! His reputation been down the toilet for years! :evil:


im not sure if you missed ulters sarcasm or if i am missing yours......
 
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Retabolil2 said:
If IP is a stand up guy then who is Ret?! Jesus! Since then IP considered to be a stand up guy?! His reputation been down the toilet for years! :evil:
He was being sarcastic bro. :)
Everybody know that Ret is stand up guy (except for what you did to Jacked Freak but I'll forgive you.) That, again, is sarcasm bro. :)
Ret is the Neiman Marcus around here.
 
drrman said:
im not sure if you missed ulters sarcasm or if i am missing yours......

haha.. When i read that statement I was like.. Seriously.. Ulter HAS to be fucking joking.. lol..

T-Matt
 
drrman said:
im not sure if you missed ulters sarcasm or if i am missing yours......
I guess I missed it :) my bad :)

BBkingpin said:
He was being sarcastic bro. :)
Everybody know that Ret is stand up guy (except for what you did to Jacked Freak but I'll forgive you.) That, again, is sarcasm bro. :)
Ret is the Neiman Marcus around here.
Jacked ass? Thats the guy who posted fake pics :) Fuck him, he is famous now! :evil: The whole EF board was laughing at "his" ripped ass :)
 
Haven't used him but can say that those orange tabs don't look like the real BD ones I got. Very obvious difference.

Perp
 
bruce410 said:
are you fuking kidding as bbking said. wtf is this taliban roids or someshit

A lot of terrorist money comes from drug sales, Im not suprised they are selling gear as well.
 
dude i was being very sarcastic but its not a name you want affiliated with drugs at this point in time regardless.
 
dannomight said:
Not a hollota goin on my way. I finally got the lil guy to bed and gave myself some postin and tokin time before bed.
hell yea i'm lighting up right now brotha. gotta get like half a bowl of steak down and a shake before beddy. light it up
 
its funny how british dragon came out with this days before anothy starks posts this


like they said stop taking credit!!!!

LMAO you went on 4 different boards with this

I dont support what IP did, but claiming credit for posting this you should be ashamed
 
racoon_city said:
its funny how british dragon came out with this days before anothy starks posts this


like they said stop taking credit!!!!

LMAO you went on 4 different boards with this

I dont support what IP did, but claiming credit for posting this you should be ashamed

Anthony Roberts and Anthony Starks are 2 different members, I believe.
 
Wait a minute, I've been saying for year that Ip was garbage and a joke and now poof ! people now seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Oh well nevermind....
 
Retabolil2 said:
His name is Mohammad Hossein from what I remember :evil: Working for Alcaeda I think... :rolleyes:

Exactly. Well depending to who you were talking too cause it look like either 5 buddies living under the same roof or a bi-polar moron.
 
racoon_city said:
its funny how british dragon came out with this days before anothy starks posts this


like they said stop taking credit!!!!

LMAO you went on 4 different boards with this

I dont support what IP did, but claiming credit for posting this you should be ashamed
It is Roberts not Starks why do you say is taking credit for it he says British Dragon informed him. Does this mean your off the ip bandwagon?
 
manny78 said:
Wait a minute, I've been saying for year that Ip was garbage and a joke and now poof ! people now seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Oh well nevermind....


I've been saying it for 4 years!!!!
 
Reubsf said:
Anthony Roberts and Anthony Starks are 2 different members, I believe.

I'm Anthony Roberts...I don't even know Anthony Starks...

I'm not even sure what that other post meant....If someone is also saying the same thing as me, that's great...I'm hoping that this was C/P and put on all the boards...I put it on EF, T-Nation, and Steroid.com (the biggest boards I work for), instead of going on 100 little boards...I assumed it would make it's way around to the little boards if I posted it on the bigger ones.

I don't want "credit" for the information, because all I did was verify it when BD contacted me with their findings. They wanted me to post it for them, because it carries a bit more weight when I do it, as opposed to "GoldenBro69" or whoever. As long as the information gets passed on, then it's cool with us.
 
mookie said:
It is Roberts not Starks why do you say is taking credit for it he says British Dragon informed him.

Ok...let me clarify....British Dragon, who I speak to a couple of times a week on MSN messenger, sent me an instant message, and a bunch of file transfers...then I verified the information and posted it.

However the information gets out there is fine with me....as long as it's the truth. :coffee:
 
Oh its definately IP but just can not see his reasoning behind it.

thanks for bringing the information to the boards AR

Wrongun!
 
manny78 said:
Wait a minute, I've been saying for year that Ip was garbage and a joke and now poof ! people now seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Oh well nevermind....
The light at the end of the IP tunnel is a train!
 
LOL IP's counterfit BD tabs tabs tested @ a perfect 10mg anavar per tab

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


pretty damn funny!!
 
^^ whats so funnny about that? didnt you start a whole thread about this and no one gives a shit, stfu already with this shit
 
racoon_city said:
LOL IP's counterfit BD tabs tabs tested @ a perfect 10mg anavar per tab

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


pretty damn funny!!

Where is the laughter?

You started a thresad where there is debate about this and you do not reply on it but do get this thread and make silly comments again.

We have got your message that there is a lab test. Noone has seen it onor have you peoduced it. You also do not answer many of the questions ion the other thread.

Not sure what you have to gain but if you are an IP remailer then this will not assist your cause

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
Where is the laughter?

You started a thresad where there is debate about this and you do not reply on it but do get this thread and make silly comments again.

We have got your message that there is a lab test. Noone has seen it onor have you peoduced it. You also do not answer many of the questions ion the other thread.

Not sure what you have to gain but if you are an IP remailer then this will not assist your cause

Wrongun!
There is like 5 members who like to push ip he is one.
 
this is a steroid discussion board. aint it?

or would you rather talk about womens periods and thier menstrol cycles
 
racoon_city said:
LOL IP's counterfit BD tabs tabs tested @ a perfect 10mg anavar per tab

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


pretty damn funny!!


They tested as 9,3 not 10,0.. That is all well and good, but its not BD, still a counterfeit.. Strange how his fake BDs test better than his own version.. His 15,0 were like 23% below label claims..
 
racoon_city said:
no bro the test say 10mgs,

So were these his 15mgs ones that were so bad he counterfitted as BD 10mgs?

Why did he counterfit then if his product is so good as you keep saying?

You must have a lot of these tabs to get rid of with all the work you are putting in to convince peopel they are good. You would help your cause a lot more if you explained why if hsi product is good he decided to counterfit?

Wrongun!
 
truckdaddy said:
strange that there is a misprint on the test....do you belive it to be legit?

You know, I was thinking the same thing..but I dont want to start shit again. I guess we could call SRCS and get it verified, or send another sample in.. But I think this case is pretty much closed. If you want BD stick with verified suppliers, plain and simple..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
You know, I was thinking the same thing..but I dont want to start shit again. I guess we could call SRCS and get it verified, or send another sample in.. But I think this case is pretty much closed. If you want BD stick with verified suppliers, plain and simple..

I would not be surprised if the mod was in bed with ip and his guys, they throw out free product like it going out of style......just seemed srange. I want to get mine tested, how do i do this?
 
truckdaddy said:
I would not be surprised if the mod was in bed with ip and his guys, they throw out free product like it going out of style......just seemed srange. I want to get mine tested, how do i do this?

Call SRCS in the morning.. their info is on their site..

www.srcslab.com

They can give you all the details..
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but to raise a point I didn't bother to raise before, if all that IP is doing is stealing another's reputation in order to move his own product, but his product is actually dosed accurately, then his actions are obviously deceptive but not necessarily immoral. I tried his oral once and have to say that they are hit or miss. I forgot to chew them so that might have been a factor. Nevertheless, I would not order anything from him.
 
solidspine said:
Are you implying IP was once selling legitimate gear?


Because that would be shocking to hear
He does have a fan base, it seems. Not me, but a lot of ppl like his pills.
 
What's the word on C labs. Do they still have a solid reputation?
 
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