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Input please cutting cycle - Prop/Test/Mast + Clen/T3

joejoe4334

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Stats: 38, 5'5", 185lbs, 13.5%bf
History: Normal test levels ~300 ng/dL (low). 3 Cycles already and this is the first time on Tren/Mast. I also have Gyno from puberty.
Purpose: To cut and lean mass
Diet: will post in diet forum. For that I am 100% it is on point
CYCLE: week 1-8
Test P 50mg eod
Mast P 100mg eod
Tren A 75mg eod
Clen 2 wk on 2 off
T3 Pyramid up to 50mcg and back down to 12.5

This cycle specifically, I have been researching for about 2 years now. I think I am ready but now would like some opinions and guidance. (though in doing so, I will probably end up more confused than originally since everyone seems to have different opinions) PCT is Clomid 100/100/100/50

Please help with comments on cycle below.
My questions are:
1. Should I start off @ 75mg EOD for the Tren to see if there are sides or will it not matter and just go straight to 100mg?
2. Run Test Prop higher or lower then the Tren and Mast? Run Mast Higher?
3. The Clen/T3 addition. Is that ok or do 2wk on 2 off thoughout cycle. Should I wait a couple weeks? Not worth it?
4. the AI dosages of Arimidex and Caber look good? Too high to start off with?
5. Higher dosages if sides are in check? Cycle longer than 8 weeks (i.e. 10?)
6. Any other comments welcome.

I posted in another forum (paid) the person who answered is well known bodybuilder and he suggested Test P 250mg eod, Tren 50 eod, and Mast 100 eod. That seems crazy considering everything I have read typically leads to running running Test lower than Tren. Thoughts?
 
Stats: 38, 5'5", 185lbs, 13.5%bf
History: Normal test levels ~300 ng/dL (low). 3 Cycles already and this is the first time on Tren/Mast. I also have Gyno from puberty.
Purpose: To cut and lean mass
Diet: will post in diet forum. For that I am 100% it is on point
CYCLE: week 1-8
Test P 50mg eod
Mast P 100mg eod
Tren A 75mg eod
Clen 2 wk on 2 off
T3 Pyramid up to 50mcg and back down to 12.5

This cycle specifically, I have been researching for about 2 years now. I think I am ready but now would like some opinions and guidance. (though in doing so, I will probably end up more confused than originally since everyone seems to have different opinions) PCT is Clomid 100/100/100/50

Please help with comments on cycle below.
My questions are:
1. Should I start off @ 75mg EOD for the Tren to see if there are sides or will it not matter and just go straight to 100mg?
2. Run Test Prop higher or lower then the Tren and Mast? Run Mast Higher?
3. The Clen/T3 addition. Is that ok or do 2wk on 2 off thoughout cycle. Should I wait a couple weeks? Not worth it?
4. the AI dosages of Arimidex and Caber look good? Too high to start off with?
5. Higher dosages if sides are in check? Cycle longer than 8 weeks (i.e. 10?)
6. Any other comments welcome.

I posted in another forum (paid) the person who answered is well known bodybuilder and he suggested Test P 250mg eod, Tren 50 eod, and Mast 100 eod. That seems crazy considering everything I have read typically leads to running running Test lower than Tren. Thoughts?


1. Keep your tren at 75 unless it is dosed at 100mg, then I just like to use that dose. Minimal difference between the two.
2. your test should be a bit higher. 100mg EOD is normal for this cycle.
3. probably wouldn't run these. If i was, it would be one or the other. Generally speaking it would be clen over t3 any day of the week.
4. dont see your AI and caber dose.
5. No, keep same dose throughout. Keep length 8-10 weeks.
6. your clomid dose doesn't need to be that high, and you should add some other supps into your PCT
 
I completely forgot the support AI
Armidex is .5mg EOD
Cabrer is .25 EOD
Hcg is 250iu EOD

Thanks so much for your quick response. So you are in the school of thought of higher test than tren? Each is in separate vial so I can dose however I choose.
Just to confirm I should do: Test P 100mg EOD , Tren A 75mg EOD , and Mast P 100 EOD correct?
 
I'd switch to aromasin from agguys. .Also I'd run n2guard throughout cycle with hegenerate to keep suppression to a min...I'd also add Oxandavar last 4 weeks b killer...Also with running tren I'd add gw and s4 from sarms1
 
I don't think T3 is a great idea, but your cycle looks decent. I would make sure to add N2guard to the cycle. Run Aromasin and Caber on cycle as well. I would highly suggest adding GW from sarms1 to the cycle because it drastically helps Tren side effects. Your PCT needs work though

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Test Stack 3 caps per day
Ostarine 25mg ED
 
Thanks for the feedback guys. Been on the cycle for a couple weeks (on wk 3). Not really getting any sides (coughing, night sweats, etc. My left nip is getting a little sensitive.
I am running N2 Gaurd along with Armidex is .5mg EOD and Cabrer is .25 EOD. Yesterday I upped the Armidex to .5 ED. Should I wait and see how that goes or something else? Thanks
 
I second the switch to aromasin. If you are going to run t3, there is no need to pyramid up and down. AG guys t3 is legit stuff, very potent.
 
get on aromsin asap at 12.5 mg ed... arimidex is not even close to the strength of aromasin and does not carry near the benefits either... i would strongly advise against adding clen and t3 bro... t3 is muscle eating garbage and both are very dangerous and possess much more negatives than positives... adding sarms would not only shred you up but also allow you to gain lean muscle, strength and an overall sense of well being with minimal to no side effects... read my articles on sarms at Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org add these to your cycle

gw 20 mg day
s4 50 mg day
lgd-4033 10 mg day

you can run gw all the way through pct... also add mk-2866 to your pct at 25 mg day... get your sarms at SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
 
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