Seems to me the powerlifters/strength athletes are always trying to sway people from the bodybuilding way of things on this forum. I don't care if some 170lbs with toothpick legs can squat 600lbs ass to the floor. Sure, it's impressive but their legs arent, compared to, say, Melvin Anthony's. Some of us train strictly for bodybuilding, and while strength increases are a definitely a good way of measuring progreess, I'd rather see an increase in thigh circumference than do some powerlifting routines.