I'm so excited ... a toy!!

[Burning Desire]

OMG ... I can't wait to try it out!! I'm wet and horny just thinking about it!

Today, thanks to this board ... I'm going to get my new toy!! Or should I say "a toy" ...

I've never used a vibrator before .. and since, having four children and a hubby who's never home, it kind of makes it a bit difficult to cheat, even if I want to .... so I'm stuck with porn videos and erotic stories ... ok, and phone sex once or twice ... no big deal ... I'm just trying to have a little bit of fun!

so today, I'm getting My "Rabbit" ...

Somewhere on here .. somebody mentioned it! Last time I was in the video extra store, there were alot of guys hanging around the vibrator section, so I didn't venture over ... today I will ... because I called first ... I'll just go in there and ask the girl at the counter to get it for me! The wireless one!


I've never owned or used a vibrator ....

and

does anybody want to help name my new bunny??


jubei? darkside? patsfan? ... cum on guys ... help a girl out!

 

[gsxr1000]

Buford Goldstein.................that's a good name for a vibrator.


A redneck Jew.

 

[theoldguy]

Woohoo !!!
You'll luv it when he burrows into his hole

Ya might wanna pick up some lube while you're there, just in case. My gf uses it when she's alone and just wants to get off quickly with the vib.

 

[jubei]

Well, its really up to you, but if you want to cum for minutes at a time name it jubie. You can thank me later.

 

[drgoodbody]

Well...

I guess I'm happy for you, but every time I hear a woman talk about using a vibe because her sex life sucks, it just makes me a little bit sad. Guess I hate to hear about all that good pussy going to waste on some inanimate object. Oh well, I suppose it beats celibacy...

DrG

 

[Burning Desire]

Re: Well...

I guess I'm happy for you, but every time I hear a woman talk about using a vibe because her sex life sucks, it just makes me a little bit sad. Guess I hate to hear about all that good pussy going to waste on some inanimate object. Oh well, I suppose it beats celibacy...

DrG

Well, honey ... I never DID say that my sex life sucks ...

you might just say I'm a bit overactive ... or maybe hyper-active ... or maybe just a nympho that likes to think about sex alot ... and it's hard to have a hot wet pussy all the time and no one around to take care of it when she needs it! Maybe it's that "women in their thirties thing .. who knows!

 

[Frackal]

qwerty

 

[Burning Desire]

Oh yes!

Well, its really up to you, but if you want to cum for minutes at a time name it jubie. You can thank me later.

Well ... give me some details honey .. and maybe I can work up a good visual .. jubie is a cute name!

 

[Burning Desire]

got it ...

I got him ... and he's blue ... I was thinking ... "little blue boy cum blow my horn!!"

I can't wait to try him out ... but it'll have to wait .. hubby's home tonight!

 

[drgoodbody]

well...

BD - I was just basing my statements on another post you made:

click me

where you state how self-centered, etc. your husband is. Sorry, if I misinterpreted what you wrote... seemed fairly self evident to me.

Later babe

DrG

PS: and if ya need it that bad, why not hit up a horny brother on this board?!

 

[ANABOLICK1]

Re: Re: Well...

Well, honey ... I never DID say that my sex life sucks ...

you might just say I'm a bit overactive ... or maybe hyper-active ... or maybe just a nympho that likes to think about sex alot ... and it's hard to have a hot wet pussy all the time and no one around to take care of it when she needs it! Maybe it's that "women in their thirties thing .. who knows!

talk to me lol

 

[jubei]

What type of details are you looking for?

 

[Burning Desire]

right Drgoodboy ... he is a prick, that's for sure!

Sorry to mix words.... I guess if I were to be really honest here, the sex sucks too ...

when I read your comments about "sex sucks!" I was thinking non-existent ... it's there, just not what it coudl be I guess! As in, he gets his 100% of the time, I don't.

Jubie ... build, mannerisms .... what you like to do! you know, something to think about and make my little blue boy play nice!

 

[jubei]

I'll do just about anything with a woman, but anal sex isn't really feasible unless your a porn star or a prostitute. I think I'm just too thick and long. I guess that's what the rabbit is for. Fucking rabbit has all the fun.

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

Some ideas....

#3 Well if u wanna get intimate with that baby for a longer period of time name it Jubis....thats a better name than Jubei cause rumor has it thats what Jubei named his kid and some people told me his kid last longer than he does!!!

#2 Be orignal and name it "Roger" since it's a rabbit!!!

#1 Name is "DSN" which in your case would stand for Dependent Sexual Nobb

P.S. When those batteries run out gimme a holla and ill show ya how to change em!!!

 

[jubei]

Hey DSN, women in their 30's don't last very long, although its sooo fun to play with them. I'd say they usually only last for about 5-10 minutes of actual intercourse before they cum. Trust me, I have experience in this department.

Also lasting a long time is not difficult although I rarely time myself. Usually I just fuck the girl until she cums really hard a couple times and then let her have the satisfaction of making me cum. Then its cuddle time for about 30 minutes and then onto round 2.

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

No doubt boss...

I've only been lucky enough to bag 3 of those mommas that you refer to as older women which is what above 30? They are damn good in bed though each one ive been with!!! They get me off faster then these younger chicks do....gotta be the experience....

 

[DJ_UFO]

OMG ... I can't wait to try it out!! I'm wet and horny just thinking about it!

Today, thanks to this board ... I'm going to get my new toy!! Or should I say "a toy" ...

I've never used a vibrator before .. and since, having four children and a hubby who's never home, it kind of makes it a bit difficult to cheat, even if I want to .... so I'm stuck with porn videos and erotic stories ... ok, and phone sex once or twice ... no big deal ... I'm just trying to have a little bit of fun!

so today, I'm getting My "Rabbit" ...

Somewhere on here .. somebody mentioned it! Last time I was in the video extra store, there were alot of guys hanging around the vibrator section, so I didn't venture over ... today I will ... because I called first ... I'll just go in there and ask the girl at the counter to get it for me! The wireless one!


I've never owned or used a vibrator ....

and

does anybody want to help name my new bunny??


jubei? darkside? patsfan? ... cum on guys ... help a girl out!

check out my pics and call it "The emperor djufo"..lol!!

 

[Burning Desire]

Re: No doubt boss...

I've only been lucky enough to bag 3 of those mommas that you refer to as older women which is what above 30? They are damn good in bed though each one ive been with!!! They get me off faster then these younger chicks do....gotta be the experience....

Bingo again! Darkside!

That's the trouble here ... he busts his nuts long before I'm ready to cum, or just as I'm working up into one and he finishes!! And all get is, "Sorry, honey ... I can't help it if you feel so good!" I hardly ever have an orgasm while he's fucking me, but when I do, I can have an orgasm for what seems like five minutes straight! OMG! ... and we very rarely have oral sex ... I'm not sure if It's my own "hang up" in that department ... after all four kids came from there ... I just can't seem to relax enough ... another thing, when he does do that to me, it just doesn't feel right ... he makes me tooo wet with his own spit, or he sucks the wrong way ... or something ... I can't explain it ... I do remember a time that I use to LOVE it and would want it all the time ....

... must be that 19 years later syndrome, or something!

I'd love to lose myself to total uninhibited sex ... be completely relaxed, and enjoy each sensual touch of a man who knew "exactly" how to treat my sweet little flower!

Kind of sad ... all he wants to do is go to the shed and drink his beers and smoke his butts and watch whatever the hell is on TV than to spend time with me ... guess he just doesn't like me very much! All he ever does is complain about shit to me ... eat my dinners, fuck me in the bedroom ... to what, just get off himself! It's not about me, it's all about him! He just had his "weekend" ... now tues-sat ... he's out the door by 10:30am and won't be home until 11:30 tonight .... just me and my children here .... when he comes home ... he'll say, "Hi, how are you, how was your day?" ... "I'm going down my shed for a little while" ... and I'll say, "OK, goodnight!"

AAAAhhhhhhhh Marriage bliss ...

sorry ... I'm going off on a tangent!

I think me and little boy blue will have some fun tonight ... at least that's something to look forward to!

BD

 

[jubei]

BD, this is true of many women in your situation. 4 years ago I was with 1 woman who was 32 and she was married. She was so used to just getting it over with with her husband that when she met me she didn't know how to "let go" Fixed that up pretty quick, and as soon as he got kicked out (I made her choose) she was wanting sex 2-3 times a day. Fond memories...

 

[drgoodbody]

Damn...

that's sad shit BD... I agree with ya though, that's what happens if couples don't give enough of a shit to keep it interesting. Eventually they just quit caring what the other person wants. It's weird but true, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. At least hate is a strong emotion. When a relationship goes down the shitter and neither side gives a fuck about others feelings/wants/desires, you know there is only one thing to do - head for an exit.

Damn, now you sucked me off onto a tangent... LOL!

DrG

PS: And I still say you ought to let one of the bro's on this board hit it - repeatedly

 

[Burning Desire]

Jubei ... let me just tell you this ... nobody Ever would ever make me choose between my family or Sex! Sex isn't that improtant ... but it's a nice stress reliever ... I would never put sex before my children ... and with the hours that my hubby works, the only time my kids see him is for about an hour tues-sat mornings and then again on hubby's weekend sun&mon ...

if I were to "exit" ... when would Daddy see the children ... I could never take the kids away from him!! He IS the best dad ... mr. play dad ... only thing is I get vetoed on just about anything I say ... so they are learning from daddy that they don't have to listen to me, or what I say doesn't matter ... which makes my job tougher ... esp. on Tesuday, when they don't think they have to listen to me and tell me shit like, "your not the boss"....

sooo .... that's not exactly an option!

All I want is a good fuck on the side to keep me happy and I can deal with the rest of it ...

Raising babies ain't easy and I'm not letting him off the hook that easy!! He's going to have to stick around and help raise these chickadees!


I'm on a tangent again ... sorry ....

and I know that alot of folks on this board think I'm shit for even thinking about wanting to cheat on my hubby ... but it's not that Black and white ... and over the last couple of days, I've given ya'll plenty of insight into this marriage! for whatever it's worth!

I'm not that evil ... I just want happiness ... to be treated special .... I don't have that ... not sure if I ever did ... and if that's how I choose to have a bit of happiness ... a little bit of fun ... something to smile about while kids are stressing me ... then so be it! I'll be judged by the great man upstairs when my time comes ....

For now ... I'll get by with a little help from my friend ... my little boy blew who'll cum blow my horn!!!

btw ... DrG .. I got myself a bro! not from here though!.... I was having phone sex with him the other night! We plan to meet on Sunday .... for some real action! If the phone sex was any indication of what I can expect on Sunday ... I'm in for a real treat! He left me breathless and weak in the legs ... and that was just phone sex.... no kidding ... I went out to the kitchen to get a drink of water, (my mouth was dry), and I was practically legless! Just thinking about it makes me pussy throb! Damn!

 

[jubei]

She chose me over her husband not over her kids. I can't imagine any mother choosing sex over her children, but she didn't love her husband anymore and I guess she just fell for me. When I started having feelings for her I didn't want to share, and she wasn't willing to give me up either. I'll tell you this much though, her kids never took a back seat to anyone including me, and I wouldn't have had it any other way. You see, others situations aren't black and white just like yours.

 

[Burning Desire]

She chose me over her husband not over her kids. I can't imagine any mother choosing sex over her children, but she didn't love her husband anymore and I guess she just fell for me. When I started having feelings for her I didn't want to share, and she wasn't willing to give me up either. I'll tell you this much though, her kids never took a back seat to anyone including me, and I wouldn't have had it any other way. You see, others situations aren't black and white just like yours.

Right ... right ... sorry, really! I misunderstood ... but the facts remian the same, and yes, nothing ever is black and white ...

maybe someday it'll be easier to cut loose ... like when my youngest is 18!

there's a song, with lyrics ... "I've built my life around you ... but children get older ... and I'm getting older too ... "

that's my life right now. as sad as it may seem.

 

[Temple]

So I take it that once he gets off it is game over?????? Have you considered taking Mr. Rabbit to bed with the two of you???
One of the quickest ways to get your partner truly interested in your pleasure is to make his pleasure your main focus i.e. you want to see his eyes roll up in the back of his head right before he loses consciousness. Basically turn it into a game between the two of you this way it is easier to say "how about we try this" or "how about we try that". If you are having trouble relaxing have you considered trying a little herb? I absolutely love having sex high, it is easier to come and the orgasms are more intense.

I know you say he works a bunch of hours - my husband does as well. We still find time to take care of each other.

 

[natedog]

Re: Re: No doubt boss...

That's the trouble here ... he busts his nuts long before I'm ready to cum, or just as I'm working up into one and he finishes!! And all get is, "Sorry, honey ... I can't help it if you feel so good!"

I used to have this problem with my ex. We were young and she was one of those hard to get off chicks. She'd actually get upset at me for cumming, and even though I was willing and able to go again or try other things for her, it was like it put her out of the mood. This turned into a pattern after a while, and I pretty much quit trying, because it was pointless. Long story short, she cheated, I showed her what cheating was all about, and we got divorced .

I hardly ever have an orgasm while he's fucking me, but when I do, I can have an orgasm for what seems like five minutes straight! OMG! ... and we very rarely have oral sex ... I'm not sure if It's my own "hang up" in that department ... after all four kids came from there ... I just can't seem to relax enough ...

Trust me, if he is offering, he really doesn't care what it looks like (in fact, he probably loves it). Assuming you keep it washed, the only smell that will be there is the good smell that drives men wild. Being married with 4 kids, and assuming he's not stepping out (if he's having sex with you regularly, this isn't likely), he probably considers that HIS pussy too.

another thing, when he does do that to me, it just doesn't feel right ... he makes me tooo wet with his own spit, or he sucks the wrong way ... or something ... I can't explain it ... I do remember a time that I use to LOVE it and would want it all the time ....

If he isn't doing it right, for god's sake TELL THE POOR MAN! Grab his fuckin' head with one hand and point where you want to be licked with the other and tell him exactly what the fuck to do. We aren't mind readers anymore than you are.

Bottom line, if you are married and having bad sex, you may assume that at least half the blame belongs to you. (If you're not having sex at all, that's a whole other issue.) Women have more fucking hang-ups with this than men can even dream of.

I'd love to lose myself to total uninhibited sex ... be completely relaxed, and enjoy each sensual touch of a man who knew "exactly" how to treat my sweet little flower!

So deal with YOUR issues and show your man how you like to be fucked.

Kind of sad ... all he wants to do is go to the shed and drink his beers and smoke his butts and watch whatever the hell is on TV than to spend time with me ...

Wake up! Pleasing you in bed sounds like an exercise in futility. He's probably depressed because he can never manage to make you happy in bed (which is a BIG HUGE thing for a man's fragile little ego and will carry over into every aspect of his life).

Cheating on him sure isn't going to help, and damn you for even thinking of it. Of course you'd probably have amazing sex, because of the whole chemistry thing that goes on with new people. If you want to sleep with other men, at least have the tits to either leave him first, or tell him so he can decide whether he wants to continue the facade of your marriage "for the kids" or not.

Goddamn, women piss me off sometimes. Now I remember why I'm afraid to get married again, thanks.

 

[jubei]

I used to think marriage would be all good and my future wife would never want to cheat on me because of my dashing good looks. Now I'm not so sure....

 

[Puddles]

It's sad seeing so much talk about marriages that don't work. I think it's largely due to selfishness. It's like...you did such and such to me, so now it's my turn to get even with you so I'll do this and that. That stuff only puts a bigger wedge inbetween two people. But not all marriages can be helped either...it takes two people trying equally as hard to overcome issues and if only one of them is trying, it won't work. If that one person tries for years and gets no where, they will give up and just do what they have to do to get through the day.

I've seen this happen with friends...my best friend loves her husband, but he's just a cold stand offish person and after being together for 20 yrs, things have only gotten worse...it's like they are living seperate lives and they're just sharing a place to live and fuck. He works long hours, she stays home and does stuff with the kids. He's a control freak but she deals with it because she loves him and the kids. He loves her too, but just doesn't know how to show it. I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for the kids they would have divorced.

I guess we all do what we have to do to get through situations, but living in an unhappy marriage really sucks.

Enjoy the rabbit, BD! I don't use mine often, but when I do it's like....WOW! I like it best when hubby uses it on me.

 

[lilperronis]

if the company that makes it callesit "rabbit" you should call it petter cotton tail

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

Hey BD...

Ya only live once which means being happy is very important and good sex is an big part of being happy in my life...yours??? lol Anyways my friends call me "The President" which means if u can keep a secret we can do it anytime u wanna and ill show tricks of the trade on how to get a woman off with the magic tongue... Whatever u do...DO NOT i repeat DO NOT go near Jubei's wang as some of Elites Whores have said he has a 2 inch wanker!!! BAWhahahahaha

 

[Puddles]

Re: Hey BD...

Whatever u do...DO NOT i repeat DO NOT go near Jubei's wang as some of Elites Whores have said he has a 2 inch wanker!!! BAWhahahahaha

You mean Jubei's been hookin up on the boards and not telling us all the details and not posting up pics?


Jubei...shame on you! C'mon and give up the details!

 

[natedog]

I used to think marriage would be all good and my future wife would never want to cheat on me because of my dashing good looks. Now I'm not so sure....

ROFL. Trust me, looks ain't enough. My ex cheated on me with very average-looking, short, skinny dudes. All she had ever dated before (and including) me were good-looking (so I'm told...), tall, muscular dudes. She even admitted, "yeah, they (2) were not-so-hot and had little dicks, but they listened to me." Lesson learned the hard way .

And...trolling for some poor dude's wife (or egging her on) on an internet chat board is pretty pathetic. Just remember it when you're 40-something, pulling your hair out, wondering who your wife is fucking and why. If you think it couldn't happen to you, then it probably will.

 

[jubei]

DSN found a cum soaked condum handing out of his ass last weekend and he claimed to have "blacked out". I guess this is the incident he is alluding to however how would he know it was me if he blacked out? Just admit it DSN you liked it and now your mad cause I'm playing hard to get.

 

[Burning Desire]

It went like this:

OK ... maybe it's just me ... but ...

He came home late ... about 30 minutes ...

ME: "why are you home late?"
HIM: "what difference does it make, I always get home late"
ME: "You ready?"
HIM: "You're kididng, right?"
ME: "No, go take a walk in my bedroom" candles lit! I'm ready!
HIM: (he laughs) "Your serious"
ME: "Whatever, we don't have to if you don't want to"

I'm not going to force him into it ... always when HE wants it, never for ME! Even when I'm too tired I give it up!

I tried to help myself ... guess I'll have to try again without my toy (he's around) ....

He then proceeded to complain how I wasn't on my computer ... and that I was actually watching TV ... I said, "Ya! Waiting for you" ... I was sitting on the couch and I could just feel the wetness dripping from me! (I took that Stamina Rx for Women)

I told him, "Stop bugging me, why don't you just go down your shed"

He said, "OK, I will!" (he wanted to do this since he got in, guess he felt obligated to sit with me a few or something)

This... my friends, is just a brief glimpse of every day/night for me!

Guess he'd rather be in his shed (it's pretty big in there ~ 12x16 ... tv, beer fridge ~~ he can smoke in there, since there is NO smoking in the house.)

Can only try so much before you really stop caring!!

Whatever ....

Life goes on ....

bd

 

[Puddles]

Maybe he likes to feel like he's the one in control? Some poeople need to feel like they've got control over certain situations.

When he walked in and you immediately asked why he was late, he probably also felt like he was confronted with a situation and his natural reaction was to defend himself. A nice kiss hello, how was your day and dinner waiting for him would have set an entirely different tone when he walked through the door too.

If you've both gotten into certain habbits...him going to the shed to smoke and drink for the night...you on the computer or whatever...it's gonna take a LOT to break those habbits and they won't be done overnight. Just like the two of you have grown apart...that didn't happen overnight either. Some gentler approaches could be used instead of being so agressive if that's what he needs.

 

[jubei]

I think the reason I tend to do well with women besides my incredible good looks and abnormally large penis is because I tread my women very well. What happened to BD would never happen with me. I always try and make my girl feel wanted and special and I have always gotten back twice what I put in.

No wonder you want to cheat on him, he sounds like fucking Al bundy. What a jerk off. The sad part is I don't think he would care if you did cheat on him, other than the fact that it makes him look bad. I really feel for you. Good thing puddles is around or I would just give up on marriage all together.

 

[Temple]

Is he happy with what he does for a living??? That sounds a whole lot like my hubby when he had a job that he hated. I was home all day with a toddler and before we knew it we might as well have been living on seperate coasts the way that we treated each other. We bristled at the slightest thing and were totally entrenched in the position that it was ALL the other person's fault. I'm not saying it is all you - he bears half the responsibility. I do believe that one person can, with enough persistence, change the direction of a relationship.

Mrs. Puddles offers some good advice. I would like to add that it maybe if you took sex totally out of the equation for awhile and focused on simply connecting. That is basically what she is suggesting. When he growls at you it is only natural to growl back but if you don't eventually he will have a real tough time being pissy with someone who is always nice to him.

It took a good while and a career change for us to turn things around. There were times when we would have sex maybe once a month - now it is almost daily. The funny thing is that the career change actually involved more hours for him but he was happy and challenged by what he was doing. With enough patience and the right approach I think that we can all create our own realities. It sounds like you have made the decision that you will stay in the relationship for the kids so you might as well do everything in your power to make it a good one.

 

[natedog]

Very well said, MrsPuddlesFL.

Burning Desire, I applaud your effort. I certainly don't have all of the answers, especially without his side of the story, but, I can assure you that cheating is NOT an answer and won't help either you or your marriage in the end.

I would suggest talking as a means of exploring what's wrong (I think we're all in agreement that something is wrong here), rather than jumping right to the sex. It sounds like the two of you are so indifferent to each other that you don't even fight about what's wrong anymore! You ought to have enough history together by now to withstand a little brutal honesty about what's going on in your relationship.

I'll guarantee you that if the two of you split up, he'll be kicking himself in the ass for the rest of his life for not taking you up on your offer tonight. My ex made a similar overture shortly before we split (come home, she's naked on the couch, looking at me expectantly), and I rolled my eyes at her and went in and turned on my computer. To this day (almost 6 years later), I wonder, "what if...").

Oh, by the way...blowjobs are great ice-breakers. If you were trying to make up with a friend you'd grown apart from, would you A) invite her over to cook dinner for you, or B) invite her over to eat a nice dinner that you cooked? ...He may eye you suspiciously, and ask what you want or whatever. Just assure him that you only want his attention. I guarantee that you'll have it .

I know it probably sounds like I'm saying you have to do all the work...but it sounds like you would really rather get everything you need from your marriage, so I'm offering my suggestions. Hell, if it meant I could have my marriage back and happy, I'D probably suck some dick, lol (tic). Looking again, especially knowing what can go wrong, sucks.

I think the reason I tend to do well with women besides my incredible good looks and abnormally large penis is because I tread my women very well. What happened to BD would never happen with me. I always try and make my girl feel wanted and special and I have always gotten back twice what I put in.

No wonder you want to cheat on him, he sounds like fucking Al bundy. What a jerk off. The sad part is I don't think he would care if you did cheat on him, other than the fact that it makes him look bad. I really feel for you. Good thing puddles is around or I would just give up on marriage all together.

You, my friend, have obviously never been married. It's not something that can be explained...

 

[jubei]

QUOTE]You, my friend, have obviously never been married. It's not something that can be explained.[/QUOTE]

You are correct I have never been married, and the thought of it is getting me a little worried. I have been in a long relationship, well for over 2 years I consider that a long time at my age. Also I am not niave or think marriage is all fun and no work. In my last major relationship that lasted over 2 years there were problems but we always let each other know we cared and never treated each other with the indifference I saw in BD's post.

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

BD

If i were married and my woman came home 30 mins late and didn't have a valid excuse i would def be on the phone with that awesome show "Cheaters" they bring out the best in relationships!!!

Now it sounds like you are in a tough situation. Puddles always gives good advice so this is nothing new lol but i would say fight back. When he wants the pooty-tang don't give it up. Just do what he does. If he walks to the shed when u want some cock then you hop on the comp when he wants the putty cat maybe thatll set em str8. Or the other option i would say is to sit down and talk to him but no matter which way you look at it just like Puddles said those habbits will def. be hard to break. Good Luck!!!

 

[Puddles]

DSN...fighting back is what they currently do and that won't make things better. Sometimes we have to just toss our pride away and just do what's needed to make a relationship flourish...again.

They obviously had some kind of connection because they got married. They were happy at one point. Then things got out of hand and they're where they are now...each one fighting for their own survival. Since BD has made the decision to at least stick with the marriage until the kids are grown, she may as well continue to try to make it happy for herself...even if that means giving more than her 50% in the hopes that it will eventually turn around again.

BD...tonight when hubby comes home, don't do or say anthing that he can possibly take as confrontational. Instead, let him do what he wants, but just be glad to see him for a bit. Go pick up a 6-pack of one of his favorite beers and stick it in his fridge with a little note that simply says "I love you." If he comes in and asks what it's about, just say you were thinking about him today and how much you love him. Since he's been so standoffish for so long, don't expect anything more than some confusion from him. But doing little things like this...letting him know that you're still there for him...reminding him that you do love him, is a good start. Over the weekend enjoy watching him play with the kids. Look at him and remind yourself how good of a dad he can be. You've probably got so much resentment built up inside yourself that you can't enjoy the good qualities he still has. You're gonna be with this man for many years to come, so instead of focussing on the stuff that bothers you about him, try to look more deeply into what you do like about him. When you feel deserted try to do something for yourself...play with your rabbit, take up a hobby, read a book...but don't just sulk over it...that'll just build more resentment. He may turn around in time...he may not...but never give up if you plan on being with him until the kids are grown. At least in the end if things don't work out you can honestly say that you always tried. Just remember to be subtle for a while.

Someone mentioned his job as being a factor. That can be a huge factor in how couples relat to one another. When my husband and I both worked on Wall St. we could be reall assholes to eachother...especially me during PMS week. I still have memories of stuff that I did that I wish I had not done but forgiveness, for both yourself and the other person, are important...don't live in the past...just keep going on.

 

[Mandinka2]

Tryin to give ya karma for that Puddles , nice honest heartfelt post.

 

[Burning Desire]

Thanks lot ...

I need to absorb all the grat advice herein, but let me just say this ....

thanks alot, because now I'm near tears!!

Sometimes it's just easier not to think about anything ... I just go numb!

bd

 

[Puddles]

Re: Thanks lot ...

Sometimes it's just easier not to think about anything ... I just go numb!

bd

Hugggs to ya, BD. Sometimes life really isn't what you want it to be, but only YOU have the power to change it. Hang in there, be strong and someday you'll have what you want.