I'm prohormally challenged!!!

[plornive]

I don't know SHIT about prohormones, and I don't know where to get reliable information. Is there a trustable site that lays it all out accurately? Mainly, I want something that will improve gains, and vascularity while making those gains. I gain strength very quickly, and fat, too.

I am also concerned about gyno. Don't lagh, as I really have no clue if the risks are significant from any prohormones for gyno.

A friend who seems to have a bit more "gestalt" about prohormones recommends I take T-100 by SAN. He took it with no side effects. I asked him about aromatase, and he said I should just take chrysin and/or saw palmetto.

Will someone clue me in, or at least tell me how to clue myself in? I want to understand what I'm taking before jumping in.

Thanks for reading this!

 

[plornive]

By the way, T-100 is Androst-1-ene Tetrahydropyranyl, or "1-Testosterone THP Ether". It is the same as Syntrax Sauce, but with something to make it more bioavailable, supposedly.

 

[Old Guy]

A 1-test product should help you with your goals.
I haven't heard any feedback on the SANN product in particular. 1-test "supposedly" doesen't aromatize so if thats true you shouldn't have to worry about gyno.
There are several 1-test products available. You can buy 1-test powder from www.kilosports.com. There is a transdermal 1-test solution (One or One+) available from www.avantlabs.com.
Ergopharm www.ergopharm.com makes a prohormone (1-AD) which converts to 1-test.
Do a search on this board for 1-test or 1-AD, and you'll find several posts and plenty of information on this subject.

 

[voodoo]

Well the latest crop of PH are 1-AD, 1-Test, and 4-AD. These, at least, have been producin results. I am sure there are folks on this board who could tell you more/better info but here goes

1-AD- Not too expensive ($40/60caps). Some size, more strength and hardness.

1-Test- Expensive. Alot like 1-AD in effects. Does not need the same limiting enzime as 1-AD so should be slightly more effective at same does. Wasn't worth the big $ difference to me.

4-AD - Can convert to est. Appears better for size and does not effect sex drive for most. Could cause gyno, but the people I have read about were prone to it

As for vascular improvments, diet and genetics mostly. Some AAS (fina) do improve it, but I am not aware of any PH's that do.

 

[ISN_Man]

plornive
As far as I know, there really isn't a site dedicated to prohormone education. Much of what people know is through constant trial and error, reading articles in mags and journals, and boards like this one. For AAS, there are many informative sites. One I'd recommend is http://www.meso-rx.com
As far as the 1-Test products are concerned, you can either go with the name brand products or the generic brands, as in the bulk powders. I personally would recommend spending your money on a brand name product that has an enhanced delivery system with an attached ester, to enhance the bioavailablity. When you use the bulk powders, you may be getting a lot for your money, but you have to take a hell of a lot of the powder to get a high amount circulating in your system. I'd recommend the new Molecular Nutrition 1-T Ethergels, Avant Labs One or One+, or the precursor to 1-Test, 1-AD, by Ergopharm. All of these products are of the highest quality and you should definitely make good gains on any of them, as long as your diet is good and you're training hard.
One last thing, don't even waste your money with Saw Palmetto or Chrysin. They are completely ineffective. If you're worried about hairloss, then perhaps the 1-Test products aren't for you. If you're worried about gyno and definitely think you're prone to estrogen conversion, get your hands on some arimidex or nolvadex, or try Molecular Nutrition's estrogen managment product, Viratase. Viratase mimicks the steriod proviron, by acting as an estrogen antagonist. More info on proviron can be found here: http://www.molecularnutrition.net/viratase.htm
Good luck

 

[plornive]

Thanks for all of the thoughful replies.

I'm not too incredibly worried about hairloss. My dad has a very slowly receding hairline, hardly noticeable, and I don't have any signs of it. Either way, would propecia limit the effects of 1-Testosterone?

Has anyone used 1-Testosterone and would like to share your experience?

 

[ISN_Man]

plornive
Pretty soon, I'm going to be starting an extensive 10 week cycle of the 1-T Ethergels and Boldione. I will be making weekly posts of my progress here, so that way people can judge it's effectiveness based on my results. I won't bullshit people and I'll post my pre-cycle stats so that way there's something to compare my results against. I'm expecting great results. My diet will be phenominal and I should react well. I loved 1-AD, though I didn't prepare myself for proper post-cycle recovery, so a decent portion of my gains went away once I came off. I hope to do things differently this time. I guess time will tell.

 

[masshole]

Go to bodybuilding.com, they have a huge article about all of the prohormones. Also their message boards for supplements are very good. Their steroid board sucks though.

 

[voodoo]

ISN_Man is right about Viratase, if I am not mistaken its the same as vitex. All of these products are just "chasteberry" that you can buy cheap under that name.

Saw Palmetto is good for the prostate, and that may be very important for any man - regardless of training

 

[Triple J]

ISN_Man is right about Viratase, if I am not mistaken its the same as vitex. All of these products are just "chasteberry" that you can buy cheap under that name.

No its not the same as Vitex, viratase is closer to Proviron, follow the link for info.