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Ice cream OK on refeed day??
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Ever heard of lowfat ice cream? 
Just follow all the fat ladies around the store that are loading up on the fat free items to lose weight... Seriously though fat free items are usually loaded with extra sugar which is usually worse than the regular version. However on a refeed day those fat free items are your biggest weapon as they supply you with plenty of carbs and no to low fat. There are countless non/low fat cookies, cakes, ice cream and various other snacks to fulfill your needs.
Or you can do like me and eat real ice cream anyways. My refeed days are anything I want and it's never stopped me from losing weight before nor will it prevent me in the forseable future. I started my refeed tonight and had an Applebee's BBQ sirloin steak with mashed potatoes and garlic bread followed up by a trip to Coldstone ice cream for a Founder's special. I have no doubt I'll wake up tomorrow looking fuller and leaner than I have all week. Not to mention I have a full day of refeeding to go.
Just follow all the fat ladies around the store that are loading up on the fat free items to lose weight... Seriously though fat free items are usually loaded with extra sugar which is usually worse than the regular version. However on a refeed day those fat free items are your biggest weapon as they supply you with plenty of carbs and no to low fat. There are countless non/low fat cookies, cakes, ice cream and various other snacks to fulfill your needs.Or you can do like me and eat real ice cream anyways. My refeed days are anything I want and it's never stopped me from losing weight before nor will it prevent me in the forseable future. I started my refeed tonight and had an Applebee's BBQ sirloin steak with mashed potatoes and garlic bread followed up by a trip to Coldstone ice cream for a Founder's special. I have no doubt I'll wake up tomorrow looking fuller and leaner than I have all week. Not to mention I have a full day of refeeding to go.
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I'm cutting right now, and still losing at least 2 ibs a week. My refeed days tend to be centered around pizza, fajitas and pasta. I seem to lose more weight in a week following a really massive, unhealthy refeed than I do on the days following a 5ooo cal low fat refeed. But everyone is different I. I think for me it can be contributed to the fact that it speeds my metabolism back up. Last weeked I had the most massive refeed during my diet, and ended up loosing 6 ibs this week. Not to mention the fact that 4 people have told me at the end of this week that I "look more muscleular" "look thinner" or "delts and tri's look bigger". I honestly believe that after 5 or 6 days of strict keto type dieting, that it is just about impossible to gain fat in the first day out of keto, regardless of how much or what you eat.
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24 to 36 hours seems to work best for me, I stop at 24 if I start feeling bloated.
Thanx for the replies people!
I´m not doing a ckd diet, I am just restricting calories throughout the week, and then add a high-carb reffed during sunday. The diet is not hardcore though... which makes me wonder if I should risk having some fat here and there!
As for fat free ice creams and such, it´s kinda hard to find them where I live (Portugal). I´ve found out yesterday over the internet that there are fat free fig newtons, for example; how I´d love to have a few of those!! Unfortunately, they are not available near me I believe
By the way, Vageta, I am currently at 14 - 15% bf, and since my diet days are not too restrictive (about 500 below maintenance), should I keep my refeeds at 1 per week or start having them more often, like every 4 or 5 days?? Since this is new for me, I tend to fear that I will get fat for doing more refeeds, which probably would actually be the other way around... I´ve been feeling ok through the week though, maybe because I don´t cut carbs that much, I have about 180 grams every day (mainly low GI)
Thanx
I´m not doing a ckd diet, I am just restricting calories throughout the week, and then add a high-carb reffed during sunday. The diet is not hardcore though... which makes me wonder if I should risk having some fat here and there!
As for fat free ice creams and such, it´s kinda hard to find them where I live (Portugal). I´ve found out yesterday over the internet that there are fat free fig newtons, for example; how I´d love to have a few of those!! Unfortunately, they are not available near me I believe
By the way, Vageta, I am currently at 14 - 15% bf, and since my diet days are not too restrictive (about 500 below maintenance), should I keep my refeeds at 1 per week or start having them more often, like every 4 or 5 days?? Since this is new for me, I tend to fear that I will get fat for doing more refeeds, which probably would actually be the other way around...
I´ve been feeling ok through the week though, maybe because I don´t cut carbs that much, I have about 180 grams every day (mainly low GI)Thanx
At 15% bodyfat I'd say 1 refeed per week is good enough so long as you do a sufficient one. The trick about refeeding is to not hold back because if you do then the benefits won't be as pronounced. There's been times I've eaten till I almost felt sick, however it makes the next 3-4 diet days easy because I was able to fulfill my cravings. On the refeeds where I don't eat as much or try to count calories I end up hungry by Monday or Tuesday which means I didn't get my leptin levels high enough.
Right now I usually refeed once per week but if by say Wednesday I'm really starving I will do a half day refeed. I usually judge my refeeds by my hunger level. My diet stays consistent all week so if I'm abnormally hungry after a few days then it tells me that my leptin levels are down and need a boost. I posted last night about what I ate for dinner and snack on the start of my refeed. Well I weighed this morning and I was the same weight as yesterday morning so I gained little if any water which means that I hardly filled up any glycogen. Which means I will be refeeding all day today I usually add a good 3-5 pounds of water while refeeding so when I saw no change in the scale it told me I hadn't even scratched the surface of my glycogen stores.
It sucks that you don't have access to low fat items in Portugal. Here in the US there are isles full of the crap in the grocery stores. There are brands of foods that only make low and non fat items. You may consider making your own low fat treats as well since there are about a million low fat recipes on the internet for cookies, cake, pies, etc...
Also I don't follow a CKD either, I usually eat 100-150g of carbs a day during the week. Refeeding isn't dependant on the type of diet really, the fact that you're dieting and dropping leptin levels mean you need to restore them at some point. High carb/low fat is the general rule but many of us do just fine by eating what we want and not counting calories or fat grams. I'd say just go for it one day and see what happens. My guess is you'll hit the gym strong the next week and the weight will still go down.
Right now I usually refeed once per week but if by say Wednesday I'm really starving I will do a half day refeed. I usually judge my refeeds by my hunger level. My diet stays consistent all week so if I'm abnormally hungry after a few days then it tells me that my leptin levels are down and need a boost. I posted last night about what I ate for dinner and snack on the start of my refeed. Well I weighed this morning and I was the same weight as yesterday morning so I gained little if any water which means that I hardly filled up any glycogen. Which means I will be refeeding all day today
I usually add a good 3-5 pounds of water while refeeding so when I saw no change in the scale it told me I hadn't even scratched the surface of my glycogen stores.It sucks that you don't have access to low fat items in Portugal. Here in the US there are isles full of the crap in the grocery stores. There are brands of foods that only make low and non fat items. You may consider making your own low fat treats as well since there are about a million low fat recipes on the internet for cookies, cake, pies, etc...
Also I don't follow a CKD either, I usually eat 100-150g of carbs a day during the week. Refeeding isn't dependant on the type of diet really, the fact that you're dieting and dropping leptin levels mean you need to restore them at some point. High carb/low fat is the general rule but many of us do just fine by eating what we want and not counting calories or fat grams. I'd say just go for it one day and see what happens. My guess is you'll hit the gym strong the next week and the weight will still go down.
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Vageta,
For those on a controlled carb diet...say 170g on workout days (all postworkout), and 0 on non-training days, do you still feel a weekly refeed is necessary?
If so, what would be better, a controlled refeed day, something like this:
meals 1-3: 100g high GI carbs, 50g protein, 200mg r-ALA
meals 4-6: 50g low GI carbs, 50g protein, 200mg r-ALA
Or....perhaps one all out cheat meal once a week to reset the metabolism and keep the thyroid happy?
Or....just diet straight threw without the cheat days or refeeds on this type of diet? Calories about 2350 on training days, 2000 on non-trainign days.
For those on a controlled carb diet...say 170g on workout days (all postworkout), and 0 on non-training days, do you still feel a weekly refeed is necessary?
If so, what would be better, a controlled refeed day, something like this:
meals 1-3: 100g high GI carbs, 50g protein, 200mg r-ALA
meals 4-6: 50g low GI carbs, 50g protein, 200mg r-ALA
Or....perhaps one all out cheat meal once a week to reset the metabolism and keep the thyroid happy?
Or....just diet straight threw without the cheat days or refeeds on this type of diet? Calories about 2350 on training days, 2000 on non-trainign days.
Vageta, thanx for all the good advice!
However I am afraid of going over 3000 cals per day. My maintenance calories are roughly 2500/day, so plus 20% of that would equal 3000. What do you think?
On the last refeed I felt sick at the end of the day, I couldn´t eat one more cookie or whatever that was sweet, which is a good thing, cause it gets you going through the week. I did not eat fatty stuff though.
Right now however, I´m anxiously waiting for tomorrow - refeed day
However I am afraid of going over 3000 cals per day. My maintenance calories are roughly 2500/day, so plus 20% of that would equal 3000. What do you think?
On the last refeed I felt sick at the end of the day, I couldn´t eat one more cookie or whatever that was sweet, which is a good thing, cause it gets you going through the week. I did not eat fatty stuff though.
Right now however, I´m anxiously waiting for tomorrow - refeed day
