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Lao Tzu

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Report: U.S. Finds Missiles with Chemical Weapons
Mon April 7, 2003
10:25 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. forces near Baghdad found a weapons cache of around 20 medium-range missiles equipped with potent chemical weapons, the U.S. news station National Public Radio reported on Monday.
NPR, which attributed the report to a top official with the 1st Marine Division, said the rockets, BM-21 missiles, were equipped with sarin and mustard gas and were "ready to fire." It quoted the source as saying new U.S. intelligence data showed the chemicals were "not just trace elements."

It said the cache was discovered by Marines with the 101st Airborne Division, which was following up behind the Army after it seized Baghdad's international airport.

U.S. Central Command headquarters in Qatar had no immediate comment.

The United States and Britain launched the war against Iraq to rid the country of weapons of mass destruction. Iraq denies having such weapons.
 
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chemical weapons......good for the coalition in terms of PR..

but Sarin and Mustard gas......not what they probably hoped for in terms of potency or quantity.....

Sarin has been made by domestic terrorists in the past, mustard gas is old but has been used in warfare before, one step up i guess and has been used in warfare, but i wonder if each was well hidden enough to escape the inspectors eyes

either way im not entirely sure this is something that can justify a war. mustard gas is WW1-WW2 era, and sarin can be made with ease too it seems, hardly cause to jusitfy a full scale invasion
 
For this to really be justified they'd have to find signifcant caches of chem weapons...no one will be surprised if we find a couple missiles lying around here or there.
 
Frackal said:
For this to really be justified they'd have to find signifcant caches of chem weapons...no one will be surprised if we find a couple missiles lying around here or there.


why is that? countries go to war for far stupider reasons than this. Race, religion, money & territory come to mind. Why isn't a war to bring about a better life for people as justified as a race war (as is occuring in the Sudan, Kenya, Angola or the Congo)? This is so demoralizing. A war to provide a better, less repressive lifestyle should be the most noble form of war, much more noble and justified than race wars or to gain money or territory. But nobody protests the race wars on earth, only the wars of 'liberation', and even then only when the US is involved. Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Gulf war I, Gulf war 2 all had consequences where people were freer of repression, and the US was involved, so all were protested heavily. Its so demoralizing i can't describe it. :(. I think the taste of Vietnam is still screwing with people's taste for war.

Maybe we should claim this is a race war and claim cambodia is behind it. Then the protests will stop.:(
 
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danielson said:

either way im not entirely sure this is something that can justify a war. mustard gas is WW1-WW2 era, and sarin can be made with ease too it seems, hardly cause to jusitfy a full scale invasion

True, but this is just the tip of an iceberg. After the regime is gone and free access to palaces, scientists & the country are obtained i think we will find much better WMD & terrorism ties.

For those of you who oppose war (a noble intention, but one i don't share) where were you during these wars.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/
 
Frackal said:
For this to really be justified they'd have to find signifcant caches of chem weapons...no one will be surprised if we find a couple missiles lying around here or there.
I disagree. Although Iraq's possession of chem and bio weapons is a contributimg factor to the decision to remove the regime (and one of the main "selling" points of our leaders), the justification for this war does not hinge on a given quantity of such weapons.

The fact that Saddam todd the world that he was going to help terrorists kill us stands out as a pretty clear reason to remove him.
 
nordstrom said:



why is that? countries go to war for far stupider reasons than this. Race, religion, money & territory come to mind. Why isn't a war to bring about a better life for people as justified as a race war (as is occuring in the Sudan, Kenya, Angola or the Congo)? This is so demoralizing. A war to provide a better, less repressive lifestyle should be the most noble form of war, much more noble and justified than race wars or to gain money or territory. But nobody protests the race wars on earth, only the wars of 'liberation', and even then only when the US is involved. Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Gulf war I, Gulf war 2 all had consequences where people were freer of repression, and the US was involved, so all were protested heavily. Its so demoralizing i can't describe it. :(. I think the taste of Vietnam is still screwing with people's taste for war.

Maybe we should claim this is a race war and claim cambodia is behind it. Then the protests will stop.:(

Soldiers signed on to risk their lives defending our country. Not gallavanting into other countries for special interest reasons.

As I understand it, before the sanctions on Iraq, they had a pretty decent lifestyle, with free healthcare, a good middle class, etc etc...I've also read articles stating that one reason for the sanctions was to control oil prices. Which would be wholly disgusting.

Silent Method, do you have a quote on that? I'm curious to read it. When was that said.
 
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