I am pretty intelligent, but I cannot understand this one

[KillahBee]

How can we possibly have channels like BET and Encore Black?! I don't know why this makes me absolutely insane, but it does. Every single person in this country should know that if anybody even attempted to make a TV station called HBO White, there would be riots. Does anybody else see the insane absurdity of this?!!! It blows my mind. Has this country become this spineless and pathetic? We have allowed ourselves to be held hostage by the race and minority card to the point that reverse racism is now going to become a problem. Apparently nobody understands the term "equal" or "discrimination". They only see it one way.

 

[from zero]

I know orb. I've been saying that for years.

 

[KillahBee]

I know orb. I've been saying that for years.

It's just mindboggling. Are they attempting to fight discrimination WITH discrimination???

 

[WODIN]

The news babes on Tellemundo are HOT!

 

[hamstershaver]

who would riot?

 

[bluepeter]

I had to click on this just because the thread title made me laugh.

 

[jerseyart]

You sound like my dad.

I rented White Chicks for him. Some parts were funny, but he says "all black humor involves degrading white males"


My thought is this maing, I dont give a shiat. Whatever other bullshit is going on in society, I was damn lucky to be born caucasian in the US. Say whatever the fuck you please, so long as Im getting paid

 

[perkele]

It blows Bill's mind also.

 

[AlphamaleStS]

How can we possibly have channels like BET and Encore Black?! I don't know why this makes me absolutely insane, but it does. Every single person in this country should know that if anybody even attempted to make a TV station called HBO White, there would be riots. Does anybody else see the insane absurdity of this?!!! It blows my mind. Has this country become this spineless and pathetic? We have allowed ourselves to be held hostage by the race and minority card to the point that reverse racism is now going to become a problem. Apparently nobody understands the term "equal" or "discrimination". They only see it one way.

No Doubt! Bravo!, watch the commedy channel one day, and watch how the black comedians and black audience, slaughter white people...its unreal!

 

[habitualhealth]

It blows Bill's mind also.

lol..cute

 

[wootoom]

lol..cute

bill cosby rocks

 

[sawastea]

I have the same thoughts as well 'Bee.

 

[Deterass]

Another example is the movie "White Men Can't Jump"

If a whitey made a movie (before Tigers time) that was titled "Black Men Can't Golf" all kinds of hell would've been raised.

 

[KillahBee]

You sound like my dad.

I rented White Chicks for him. Some parts were funny, but he says "all black humor involves degrading white males"


My thought is this maing, I dont give a shiat. Whatever other bullshit is going on in society, I was damn lucky to be born caucasian in the US. Say whatever the fuck you please, so long as Im getting paid

I hear ya, and I'm not exactly losing sleep over it, but it is really fucked up. I think my major problem with it is that most of our leaders in this country are that goddamn ignorant, scared and plain ol stupid to actually realize what is going on.

 

[habitualhealth]

bill cosby rocks

oh yeah...def agree on that one.

...actually agree on this post too...buuuuutttt....that's not going to change the facts. *shrugs* whadaya do?

 

[DIVISION]

How can we possibly have channels like BET and Encore Black?! I don't know why this makes me absolutely insane, but it does. Every single person in this country should know that if anybody even attempted to make a TV station called HBO White, there would be riots. Does anybody else see the insane absurdity of this?!!! It blows my mind. Has this country become this spineless and pathetic? We have allowed ourselves to be held hostage by the race and minority card to the point that reverse racism is now going to become a problem. Apparently nobody understands the term "equal" or "discrimination". They only see it one way.

Killah, how can you living in the NYC not understand the basics of racial politics?

White people will never be exempted from a past filled with slavery, racial bigotry, segregation and inequality to those of color.

That's something you just can't live down, regardless of whatever reforms you impart later. White people brought slaves over to America against their will, you made your bed, now lay in it. You complain that blacks get their own networks, but honestly does it really matter in the long run? Is it effecting you? The reason there is no "HBO White" is because America's majority is white in population, and all the races integrate in to that culture, while trying to keep a semblance of their own ethnicity (if they can).

Killah, you claim that you're not racial but you sure bring it up alot, it something that tends to reasonate with you.





DIV

 

[jerseyart]

I hear ya, and I'm not exactly losing sleep over it, but it is really fucked up. I think my major problem with it is that most of our leaders in this country are that goddamn ignorant, scared and plain ol stupid to actually realize what is going on.

Peeps are pussies. Always will be

They're all so concerned about being liked, as if that was the greatest aspiration in life.

But I grew up in Newark, and Ill say this. Id rather "deal" with some moron entertainer talking trash than dealing with the real shiat I saw every day growing up.

Is it harder to be taken seriously as ablack man

Yes

Harder to get ahead

Yes

Harder to even get housing

Yes

Im on the phone with Jaded yesterday going towards my car. Two old fucks get out of their mid life crisis brand new Vette. Gray blading hair, huge guts and bitch tits, climbing out of the car wearing theri best attempt at "this makes me look younger" fashion.

Im wearing jeans, black coat, and baseball cap on backwards (yeah i know, dont say it fucker). These two guys are looking at me the whole time, whispering to each other, and I know theyre scared as hell that Im going to steal their car. Even as he started walkign away he pressed the alarm on the keychain like 4 times, as if to let me know it has an alarm in case I was thinking of stealing their toy. So I got in my more expensive car and made a point of letting them see me as I drove by right in front of them. Cause Im petty that way.

The point is, my black friends go through that shait every day, and I watch it with my own eyes.

Like I said, Im not gonna sweat it. I know when i got the sweet end of a deal

 

[wootoom]

Peeps are pussies. Always will be

They're all so concerned about being liked, as if that was the greatest aspiration in life.

But I grew up in Newark, and Ill say this. Id rather "deal" with some moron entertainer talking trash than dealing with the real shiat I saw every day growing up.

Is it harder to be taken seriously as ablack man

Yes

Harder to get ahead

Yes

Harder to even get housing

Yes

Im on the phone with Jaded yesterday going towards my car. Two old fucks get out of their mid life crisis brand new Vette. Gray blading hair, huge guts and bitch tits, climbing out of the car wearing theri best attempt at "this makes me look younger" fashion.

Im wearing jeans, black coat, and baseball cap on backwards (yeah i know, dont say it fucker). These two guys are looking at me the whole time, whispering to each other, and I know theyre scared as hell that Im going to steal their car. Even as he started walkign away he pressed the alarm on the keychain like 4 times, as if to let me know it has an alarm in case I was thinking of stealing their toy. So I got in my more expensive car and made a point of letting them see me as I drove by right in front of them. Cause Im petty that way.

The point is, my black friends go through that shait every day, and I watch it with my own eyes.

Like I said, Im not gonna sweat it. I know when i got the sweet end of a deal

your a pussy

 

[KillahBee]

Killah, how can you living in the NYC not understand the basics of racial politics?

White people will never be exempted from a past filled with slavery, racial bigotry, segregation and inequality to those of color.

That's something you just can't live down, regardless of whatever reforms you impart later. White people brought slaves over to America against their will, you made your bed, now lay in it. You complain that blacks get their own networks, but honestly does it really matter in the long run? Is it effecting you? The reason there is no "HBO White" is because America's majority is white in population, and all the races integrate in to that culture, while trying to keep a semblance of their own ethnicity (if they can).

Killah, you claim that you're not racial but you sure bring it up alot, it something that tends to reasonate with you.





DIV

Good point - because I bring it up I am racist. Brilliant.

My point, nuggy, is that if we are ever going to get to racial equality in this country (which most people seem to be preaching about) this is not the way to do it. You don't fight discrimination or racial profiling by doing the exact thing you are trying to fight, but in the favor of those that were harmed by it in the first place. It's nonsensical. I would love to see people not looked at by the color of their skin, but it's hard to do that when it's promoted and groups label themselves, when it's convenient for them.

 

[bluepeter]

Another example is the movie "White Men Can't Jump"

If a whitey made a movie (before Tigers time) that was titled "Black Men Can't Golf" all kinds of hell would've been raised.

Perhaps because blacks were not allowed to play? Tough to be good when you can't participate.

 

[from zero]

White people brought slaves over to America against their will, you made your bed, now lay in it.\

I'm so sick of that fucking argument. It makes zero sense whatsoever. Yeah, white people need to treat blacks like kings now because of shit that happened in the past? Many many many years in the past? F that.

I don't owe anyone shit.

 

[Deterass]

Perhaps because blacks were not allowed to play? Tough to be good when you can't participate.

In 1992 they weren't allowed to play?

 

[pintoca]

Killah should write a Business Case for KKKTv. Sure you could raise some funds for it...

what really gets on my nerves is all the white kids wanting to be blacks (cool, risqué, bad, etc). It's just stupid...

 

[milo hobgoblin]

White people will never be exempted from a past filled with slavery, racial bigotry, segregation and inequality to those of color.

What a CROCK OF BULLSHIT


First off you ignorant fool. The ENITIRE population of the South prior to 1965 was only 9 million.. 6 millions of those were slaves!! Of the three million whites.. how many do you think were slave owners??? maybe a few thousand.. maybe ten thousand?

You are going to convict the ENTIRE white race for the crimes of an extremely small minority of people.. hell there are more people in LA than there were in the South!


And as far as exempting us from those crimes.. I think the 2-300 THOUSAND UNION SOLDIERS WHO DIED MORE THAN PAID THAT PRICE.


Division.. you can shove that white guilt up your ass. That was a bullshit PUSSY fucking post if I ever saw one.

ANY channel based on race IS racist.. attempting to segregate a people.. whether it be for entertainment or not is racist. period.



You convicting ALL whites for the crimes of a few.. then decrying racism makes you the biggest fucking hypocritical POS on these boards.

 

[DIVISION]

I'm so sick of that fucking argument. It makes zero sense whatsoever. Yeah, white people need to treat blacks like kings now because of shit that happened in the past? Many many many years in the past? F that.

I don't owe anyone shit.

I'm not arguing that you owe anyone shit. Noone said you need to treat blacks like kings, just how you'd treat anyone else.

Yes, there are blacks who abuse the "white guilt" card, but I'm not talking about them, they're wrong.

But the argument was about Killabee resenting the fact that blacks have their own shows, networks etc. That's not having to do with "owing" anybody, it's just preference.




DIV

 

[fistfullofsteel]

well, how come the hispanics get bunch of tv stations? they are living in usa.

 

[bluepeter]

In 1992 they weren't allowed to play?

You know what I mean bor. They were not welcome at courses in some cases even up until that time. It takes time for discriminatory practices to lose their effect. Golf has always been and in some cases still is a white man's game. Tiger has started to change that but it will take a long time IMO.

 

[SoKlueles]

what bout single white female? that didnt cause a riot

 

[from zero]

what bout single white female? that didnt cause a riot

That has nothing to do with race.

 

[SoKlueles]

That has nothing to do with race.

I know, im just trying to lighten the mood

 

[KillahBee]

I'm not arguing that you owe anyone shit. Noone said you need to treat blacks like kings, just how you'd treat anyone else.

Yes, there are blacks who abuse the "white guilt" card, but I'm not talking about them, they're wrong.

But the argument was about Killabee resenting the fact that blacks have their own shows, networks etc. That's not having to do with "owing" anybody, it's just preference.




DIV

WRONG! It was never about me "resenting" blacks having their own shows. Shit, I watch their shows! Read my last post. That's what it's about - don't preach equality and looking beyind labels and skin color then have a "black" channel. It's detrimental to their cause.

 

[DIVISION]

well, how come the hispanics get bunch of tv stations? they are living in usa.

Hispanics are a culture that was here before white people were here, why do you think all the Western states have Spanish names?

Spain = Hispanic.

That said, Hispanics will always keep their language, just like any minority group will, so why are you suprised there are Spanish TV stations? Most of the cable shows are broadcast in Mexico, but the TV stations in America choose to air them. It's called catering to your constituency.

I'm an openminded guy, but some of you are coming out of leftfield with some of your perspectives, like you've never been traveled around the states.


DIV

 

[KillahBee]

Hispanics are a culture that was here before white people were here, why do you think all the Western states have Spanish names?

Spain = Hispanic.

That said, Hispanics will always keep their language, just like any minority group will, so why are you suprised there are Spanish TV stations? Most of the cable shows are broadcast in Mexico, but the TV stations in America choose to air them. It's called catering to your constituency.

I'm an openminded guy, but some of you are coming out of leftfield with some of your perspectives, like you've never been traveled around the states.


DIV

bro, check out my post in response to you on the 1st page. that is what I am talking about

 

[jerseyart]

White men didnt invent slavery, but they were the first ones to end it. It's still going on all over Africa, but that doesnt seem to interest anyone. More profitable to keep talking about past wrongs.

In any case, a half million white men gave their lives in the war to end slavery, but they never seem to get much mention either.

Whatever

My family only got here in the 1950's, and none of them owned slaves. I dont owe anyone shiat for slavery.

But I do think as a country we owe redress for segregation. We did damage to the community so yeah, we owe some special treatement to correct some of the damage that was done.


Although the liberals did far more with their bullshit social policies

 

[Smurfy]

NAACP. United Negro College Fund. Deal with it. Im calling Farrakhan.

 

[DIVISION]

WRONG! It was never about me "resenting" blacks having their own shows. Shit, I watch their shows! Read my last post. That's what it's about - don't preach equality and looking beyind labels and skin color then have a "black" channel. It's detrimental to their cause.

True, I understand your point, it's a real paradox. I think blacks want their own networks because they're tired of relying on the big three ABC, CBS, NBC to give them any black oriented shows....at least in the variety and quantity they want. That's why you have BET, UPN......etc.

In my experience, blacks don't come up to me preaching about anything....equality, or any of that.



DIV

 

[KillahBee]

NAACP. United Negro College Fund. Deal with it. Im calling Farrakhan.

I actually had a black boss a while ago that told me I could be in the NAACP, cause technically I was "colored". I guess colored meant anything other than WASP? He was a dumb shit though

 

[DIVISION]

I actually had a black boss a while ago that told me I could be in the NAACP, cause technically I was "colored". I guess colored meant anything other than WASP? He was a dumb shit though

I doubt Italians would be accepted in to the NAACP.

Possible I suppose.

There are alot of Hispanics in it, mostly Puerto Rican.




DIV

 

[KillahBee]

I doubt Italians would be accepted in to the NAACP.

Possible I suppose.

There are alot of Hispanics in it, mostly Puerto Rican.




DIV

I doubt it too, plus we have plenty of Italian American organizations as it is.

 

[DIVISION]

I doubt it too, plus we have plenty of Italian American organizations as it is.

Exactly. The Italian American support groups are huge....

They don't the NAACP and the NAACP doesn't need them.





DIV

 

[rnch]

all federal government employees receive a newsletter called "BIG- Blacks In Government", paid for with your tax dollars.

i commented (jokingly) about the lack of a newsletter called "WIG-Whites In Government". the next day i received a stern, closed door lecture from my supervisor about racism.

 

[fistfullofsteel]

Hispanics are a culture that was here before white people were here, why do you think all the Western states have Spanish names?

Spain = Hispanic.

That said, Hispanics will always keep their language, just like any minority group will, so why are you suprised there are Spanish TV stations? Most of the cable shows are broadcast in Mexico, but the TV stations in America choose to air them. It's called catering to your constituency.

I'm an openminded guy, but some of you are coming out of leftfield with some of your perspectives, like you've never been traveled around the states.


DIV

I have nothing against it. I love Futbol Telemundo. I do have something against groups who refuse to become a part of the new culture they are living in and instead try to set up walls.

 

[KillahBee]

all federal government employees receive a newsletter called "BIG- Blacks In Government", paid for with your tax dollars.

i commented (jokingly) about the lack of a newsletter called "WIG-Whites In Government". the next day i received a stern, closed door lecture from my supervisor about racism.

disgusting. this is what I am talking about. leaders like this are so scared of the race card being pulled on them that common sense is thrown out the window in favor of doing everything possible to appease one race or ethnicity while forsaking another. it all comes full circle.

 

[r.gotti]

The news babes on Tellemundo are HOT!

I stick with the spanish mamys

 

[Deterass]

You know what I mean bor. They were not welcome at courses in some cases even up until that time. It takes time for discriminatory practices to lose their effect. Golf has always been and in some cases still is a white man's game. Tiger has started to change that but it will take a long time IMO.

I agree but you're missing the point.

Black comedians or actors make fun of white people openly to the public without having to worry about being called a racist.

I think racism has changed alot over the last thirty years and i believe there are just as many black racist as there are white racist.

 

[DIVISION]

I stick with the spanish mamys

I prefer Italian women.......

Aria Giovanni is the final frontier.




DIV

 

[rnch]

well.............most of the management at my duty station have home subscriptions to "BIG".

 

[DIVISION]

I have nothing against it. I love Futbol Telemundo. I do have something against groups who refuse to become a part of the new culture they are living in and instead try to set up a walls.

I agree.




DIV

 

[SoKlueles]

I agree but you're missing the point.

Black comedians or actors make fun of white people openly to the public without having to worry about being called a racist.

I think racism has changed alot over the last thirty years and i believe there are just as many black racist as there are white racist.

and racist doesnt always mean talking bad about another race. I think being a racist is either being against them or trying to be OVERLY friendly to them because you want to prove your not racist......because your basically making a difference either way.
I know when i was in highschool, there was a girl that was 1/2 black, the first black person ever in tellico high school, and there were some ppl that just swooned over her, just to be able to say that she was their friend because she was black.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Oh DIVISION.. so you dont like that Mexicans refuse to assimilate.. but you're perfectly okay with blacks disassimilating themseleves from society???


Prior to the 60s there was no such thing as Kwanza.. this whole "African culture" thing didnt even exist.. but in their efforts to completely remove themselves from "white society" they have created their own pseudo-African society.. and thats okay..???


LOL.. my god you're a fucking idiot... oh and I didnt send you red karma because I disagree with you,.. I sent you red karma because your a hypocrite and you are way to ignorant about the past to speak on this subject.

 

[rnch]

one man's "extreme racism" is another man's "diversity in action".











be prepared for this thread to be locked soon.

 

[sigweed]

The reason there is no "HBO White" is because America's majority is white in population,

DIV

i could easily be wrong, but i don't think thats necessarily true... the most powerful people are undoubtably white, but i think whites are a minority there now

 

[CFZB]

does any of this realy matter?

what are you going to do about any of it?

jack squat.

none of it has to to anything with you in particular.

The wheels were turning way before any of us were even a thought in our pappies pants.

Suck it up no matter what color you are and figure out how to get along.

or get along.

 

[KillahBee]

does any of this realy matter?

what are you going to do about any of it?

jack squat.

none of it has to to anything with you in particular.

The wheels were turning way before any of us were even a thought in our pappies pants.

Suck it up no matter what color you are and figure out how to get along.

or get along.

and what exactly are you doing about all the political bullshit you vomit all over the board?

 

[bluepeter]

I agree but you're missing the point.

Black comedians or actors make fun of white people openly to the public without having to worry about being called a racist.

I think racism has changed alot over the last thirty years and i believe there are just as many black racist as there are white racist.

No I'm not because I didn't address the point

I was only referring to the comment that blacks were poor golfers. There has historically been a fairly good reason for that.

 

[Y_lifter]

Without reading thru 3 pages, the standard response to this common
question is that ALL of the other 131 channels are "Mr/Mrs White TV"
with exception to the 3-4 Spanish ones I get.

 

[H_T_]

any of you cats live in a large city?? suburbs don't count, suburbs don't have soul food restaurants. when i visit my mom in the burbs, i always joke about how i can't get a hairnet and bean pie at 7-11.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

They are generally poor golfers for the same reasons they are generally horrible shooters.. (ex-USMC quadruple expert here)..

They generally have a much higher percentage of white muscle fiber.. fine motor control and stability are more difficult for them...

physiologically the best shooters.. archers.. even golfers exhibit much better motor control.. this directly relates to fast vs. slow twitch muscle fibers and all the associated physiological differences.

and yes there are of course exceptions.. very rare ones. But Id bet you ten to one.. a biopsy on Tiger Woods or any other great golfer, shooter, archer.. would prove my point.

 

[hamstershaver]

Another example is the movie "White Men Can't Jump"

If a whitey made a movie (before Tigers time) that was titled "Black Men Can't Golf" all kinds of hell would've been raised.

tiger is thai you not black

 

[KillahBee]

any of you cats live in a large city?? suburbs don't count, suburbs don't have soul food restaurants. when i visit my mom in the burbs, i always joke about how i can't get a hairnet and bean pie at 7-11.

yes. always lived around diversity as well, even in the "suburbs". east coast is a diverse place, as I am sure you know.

 

[H_T_]

yes. always lived around diversity as well, even in the "suburbs". east coast is a diverse place, as I am sure you know.

then you've seen ethinicity mixed in with some of the franchises. such as catfish and red beans and rice served at burger king or mcdonalds. and it's the only place i can find popeyes chicken. but my point is, is that someone or some(many) has rallied to have these things made available. prolly the same folks runnin' the entertainment.

 

[KillahBee]

then you've seen ethinicity mixed in with some of the franchises. such as catfish and red beans and rice served at burger king or mcdonalds. and it's the only place i can find popeyes chicken. but my point is, is that someone or some(many) has rallied to have these things made available. prolly the same folks runnin' the entertainment.

lmao - I lived next to a Popeye's in Baltimore. beautiful city

 

[CFZB]

and what exactly are you doing about all the political bullshit you vomit all over the board?

jesis.Chill.thats all I meant.

 

[KillahBee]

jesis.Chill.thats all I meant.

I just looked at that and saw "chili" and gt hungry.

 

[Y_lifter]

They are generally poor golfers for the same reasons they are generally horrible shooters.. (ex-USMC quadruple expert here)..

They generally have a much higher percentage of white muscle fiber.. fine motor control and stability are more difficult for them...

physiologically the best shooters.. archers.. even golfers exhibit much better motor control.. this directly relates to fast vs. slow twitch muscle fibers and all the associated physiological differences.

Rather than strictly being about physiology, I would think they have typically been poor golfers and shooters due to the fact that in the past,
blacks have had little access or maybe interest in these sports to become good at them..

Until recently,
Not many blacks allowed in the country club outside of caddy and shoe shine/resturant workers.

Not many Black allowed to own guns outside of maybe Saturday night specials. And if they were found with one for sport, eyebrows would have been raised .

 

[yogiberra]

undefinedundefined

How can we possibly have channels like BET and Encore Black?! I don't know why this makes me absolutely insane, but it does. Every single person in this country should know that if anybody even attempted to make a TV station called HBO White, there would be riots. Does anybody else see the insane absurdity of this?!!! It blows my mind. Has this country become this spineless and pathetic? We have allowed ourselves to be held hostage by the race and minority card to the point that reverse racism is now going to become a problem. Apparently nobody understands the term "equal" or "discrimination". They only see it one way.

 

[KillahBee]

undefinedundefined

come again?

also, best user name EVER

 

[from zero]

also, best user name EVER

Pretty sure "nipples" beat him out for that bro.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

whenever you come up against these sorts of questions, killah, refer to Delicious Rule Of The World Number 1: people...are stupid.

racism is discrimination based on race.
discrimination is the realisation of differences between different entities.
idiots are people who just dont understand, but really arent worth the time anyway

end of story, really

 

[nycgirl]

Good point - because I bring it up I am racist. Brilliant.

My point, nuggy, is that if we are ever going to get to racial equality in this country (which most people seem to be preaching about) this is not the way to do it. You don't fight discrimination or racial profiling by doing the exact thing you are trying to fight, but in the favor of those that were harmed by it in the first place. It's nonsensical. I would love to see people not looked at by the color of their skin, but it's hard to do that when it's promoted and groups label themselves, when it's convenient for them.

Good point. I think channels like this (whether it's BET, Telemundo, or the Korean channel) don't help the situation. Personally, speaking I have HUGE issues with BET re: race and gender (but I will save that rant for another day), I refuse to watch it. The world is made up of different cultures and seperating them into different channels, unversities, etc. does not promote segregation or learning about different cultures.

 

[USMC fighter]

Back in the day, when 2 african tribes would fight, the winning tribe would usually sell their captives to slave traders. Just something to think about.

 

[Lestat]

think of it this way man

ALL THE other channels are HBO white, they just don't have the name in the title.

That is like when people say "Why do we have black history month, but no white history month?" because EVERY MONTH is white history month.

Or you should like a little fucking brat asking his mom.. 'Why is there a mother's day, but no children's day?' BECAUSE EVERY DAY IS GOD DAMN CHILDREN's DAY YOU LITTLE FUCKTARD.

 

[bluepeter]

Good point. I think channels like this (whether it's BET, Telemundo, or the Korean channel) don't help the situation. Personally, speaking I have HUGE issues with BET re: race and gender (but I will save that rant for another day), I refuse to watch it. The world is made up of different cultures and seperating them into different channels, unversities, etc. does not promote segregation or learning about different cultures.

But you're OK with the other 499 channels being WET? (White Entertaiment Television) I'm exaggerating but you get the point.

 

[jnevin]

well, how come the hispanics get bunch of tv stations? they are living in usa.

Language barrier dude. Most Latinos haven't been here for hundreds of years.

 

[KillahBee]

think of it this way man

ALL THE other channels are HBO white, they just don't have the name in the title.

That is like when people say "Why do we have black history month, but no white history month?" because EVERY MONTH is white history month.

Or you should like a little fucking brat asking his mom.. 'Why is there a mother's day, but no children's day?' BECAUSE EVERY DAY IS GOD DAMN CHILDREN's DAY YOU LITTLE FUCKTARD.

please see Y lifter's post on this thread.

 

[Mr. dB]

That's something you just can't live down, regardless of whatever reforms you impart later. White people brought slaves over to America against their will, you made your bed, now lay in it.

And look who sold them to us? The black African slaves were captured and sold by, wait for it, black Africans. And that slave trade already existed before Europeans "discovered" Africa.

 

[jerseyart]

Enough with the Latinos. They integrate just fine.

Same bullshit was said about every immigrant group (including Italians) when they came over. By the first or second generation here they wont even speak Spanish anymore

 

[dahamn]

Maybe we should all just focus on saving the whales.


Dave

 

[rudeboyja]

It's this argument that pisses me off to some extent. I had an argument a while back with someone that said the same thing about "Black" colleges. I had to educate her that they are considered "Black" schools because they are historically black, and came about during a time where Blacks wern't allowed to attend most schools. Nobody considers most state schools "White" schools, but most are over 90% white while most "Black" schools are around 80% black.

I just don't like the attitude that black people have some sort of advantage...

 

[KillahBee]

It's this argument that pisses me off to some extent. I had an argument a while back with someone that said the same thing about "Black" colleges. I had to educate her that they are considered "Black" schools because they are historically black, and came about during a time where Blacks wern't allowed to attend most schools. Nobody considers most state schools "White" schools, but most are over 90% white while most "Black" schools are around 80% black.

I just don't like the attitude that black people have some sort of advantage...

A) never said that they have an advantage

b) can you realistically argue my full point? do you even understand my point?

 

[bluepeter]

A) never said that they have an advantage

b) can you realistically argue my full point? do you even understand my point?

So your point is that you have a problem with blacks having one TV channel but are OK with whites having 800?

 

[KillahBee]

So your point is that you have a problem with blacks having one TV channel but are OK with whites having 800?

from my post in page 1:

My point, nuggy, is that if we are ever going to get to racial equality in this country (which most people seem to be preaching about) this is not the way to do it. You don't fight discrimination or racial profiling by doing the exact thing you are trying to fight, but in the favor of those that were harmed by it in the first place. It's nonsensical. I would love to see people not looked at by the color of their skin, but it's hard to do that when it's promoted and groups label themselves, when it's convenient for them.

 

[Deterass]

It's this argument that pisses me off to some extent. I had an argument a while back with someone that said the same thing about "Black" colleges. I had to educate her that they are considered "Black" schools because they are historically black, and came about during a time where Blacks wern't allowed to attend most schools. Nobody considers most state schools "White" schools, but most are over 90% white while most "Black" schools are around 80% black.

I just don't like the attitude that black people have some sort of advantage...

If you are a black average student and from a low income family you have a much better chance of getting a scholorship.

Is that not an advantage?

Here's another one...........
My girlfriend works for the Post Office and she had to take a test before being hired.They take the highest test scores for new jobs.She made a 98.5 on the test and it still took a few years before being hired.

Why?

They give all Black people and Military people points before they even take the test.

She made a 98.5 on the test.
Black or military person makes a 89..........give them 10 points = 99 total score.

Wtf?

 

[bluepeter]

from my post in page 1:

My point, nuggy, is that if we are ever going to get to racial equality in this country (which most people seem to be preaching about) this is not the way to do it. You don't fight discrimination or racial profiling by doing the exact thing you are trying to fight, but in the favor of those that were harmed by it in the first place. It's nonsensical. I would love to see people not looked at by the color of their skin, but it's hard to do that when it's promoted and groups label themselves, when it's convenient for them.

So would I bor but it doesn't seem to be too practical in America. I would also say that you fight racial discrimination and bigotry by bringing other cultures to the mainstream to help dispel myths and preconceived notions. Now whether ethnic channels do that is another question.

 

[bluepeter]

If you are a black average student and from a low income family you have a much better chance of getting a scholorship.

Is that not an advantage?

Here's another one...........
My girlfriend works for the Post Office and she had to take a test before being hired.They take the highest test scores for new jobs.She made a 98.5 on the test and it still took a few years before being hired.

Why?

They give all Black people and Military people points before they even take the test.

She made a 98.5 on the test.
Black or military person makes a 89..........give them 10 points = 99 total score.

Wtf?

While I'm not sure I agree with the practice the reason is because of cultural bias in the tests.

 

[gab9681]

So your point is that you have a problem with blacks having one TV channel but are OK with whites having 800?

No, his point is that the other channels aren't named White NBC, White HBO, White CBS, and so on. The fact that they had to segregate themselves by using segretory names is bullshit. Like someone else said, if someone created the channel WET, White Entertainment Television, the blacks would throw a shit-fit. And there is a white version of the NAACP, it's called the NAAWP and they are generally considered a bunch of raicist rednecks, yet the NAACP is awarding as being a great organization. How does that work????

 

[nycgirl]

A) never said that they have an advantage

b) can you realistically argue my full point? do you even understand my point?

I don't think there is a need for seperate channels or universities. As far as the 800 white channels go, in lieu of creating a "seperate" channel, mainstream channels should embrace other cultures and show them on television. That will help us learn more about each other and get pass some sterotypes (BET does not help this situation) instead of a seperate channel. This is why I did not go to a historically black college. Had I not gone to what one would call "predominately white" college, I would not have learned about cultures (white people included). How many white people actually watch telemundo or BET for culture? The only time my boyfriend watches BET is to watch the booty videos.

 

[rudeboyja]

A) never said that they have an advantage

b) can you realistically argue my full point? do you even understand my point?

Yeah I get your point. My response was in general to the other responses on the board. I agree people are a little too sensitive about certain things. I believe the race card holds too much weight & I don't understand why people have continued to allow the word nigger to hold as mush power as it does. But I get where you're commin from. Hell it's many of the black "leaders" -- word used loosly-- (Sharpten, Jesse...) that keep the country racially charged...

I get a little upset when people make it seem like it's a privledge to be black, in terms of getting advantages others don't get.

 

[bluepeter]

I don't think there is a need for seperate channels or universities. As far as the 800 white channels go, in lieu of creating a "seperate" channel, mainstream channels should embrace other cultures and show them on television. That will help us learn more about each other and get pass some sterotypes (BET does not help this situation) instead of a seperate channel. This is why I did not go to a historically black college. Had I not gone to what one would call "predominately white" college, I would not have learned about cultures (white people included). How many white people actually watch telemundo or BET for culture? The only time my boyfriend watches BET is to watch the booty videos.

Of course the mainstream channels should do that. They historically have not hence some people started ethnic channels to combat the bombardment of white only culture. They have just barely started to bring more ethnicity into their programming in the past 10 years. When BET first went on air, how many black shows were on TV? Fresh Prince and Cosby? That's proportional representation?

 

[bluepeter]

No, his point is that the other channels aren't named White NBC, White HBO, White CBS, and so on. The fact that they had to segregate themselves by using segretory names is bullshit. Like someone else said, if someone created the channel WET, White Entertainment Television, the blacks would throw a shit-fit. And there is a white version of the NAACP, it's called the NAAWP and they are generally considered a bunch of raicist rednecks, yet the NAACP is awarding as being a great organization. How does that work????

They don't need to be named in that manner because everybody knows and it is expected. You've got 400 channels and only one shows primarily black culture, how are you going to know which one?

I see what you are saying but at the same time I think it's a minor point.

 

[Deterass]

While I'm not sure I agree with the practice the reason is because of cultural bias in the tests.

Cultural bias?

It wasn't a history test? It mainly consisted of memorizing zip codes and other various numbers which were other codes for areas of the U.S

 

[bluepeter]

Cultural bias?

It wasn't a history test? It mainly consisted of memorizing zip codes and other various numbers which were other codes for areas of the U.S

My bad then, I have no idea what's on the specific test. I'm just talking in general terms of testing. In most standardized testing, the only universal element is the math.

 

[nycgirl]

Of course the mainstream channels should do that. They historically have not hence some people started ethnic channels to combat the bombardment of white only culture. They have just barely started to bring more ethnicity into their programming in the past 10 years. When BET first went on air, how many black shows were on TV? Fresh Prince and Cosby? That's proportional representation?

In 1987, no it wasn't. However, when BET started out, the only thing they showed were music videos. It was not started to represent a culture (I'm sorry, but BET does not represent me in anyway), it was started because the only non-white artist on MTV was Michael Jackson. Move forward to 2005, are channels like, BET, Telemundo, or hell, the Korean Channel, necessary. Instead of giving up and just creating a new channel, get the mainstream channels to promote other cultures. If a race or culture, pick one, wants better representation on mainstream television, they should boycott the company that pays the most in advertising fees.

 

[jnevin]

This shit's getting out of control.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/3533684

 

[bluepeter]

In 1987, no it wasn't. However, when BET started out, the only thing they showed were music videos. It was not started to represent a culture (I'm sorry, but BET does not represent me in anyway), it was started because the only non-white artist on MTV was Michael Jackson. Move forward to 2005, are channels like, BET, Telemundo, or hell, the Korean Channel, necessary. Instead of giving up and just creating a new channel, get the mainstream channels to promote other cultures. If a race or culture, pick one, wants better representation on mainstream television, they should boycott the company that pays the most in advertising fees.

While I agree with you, you're living in a dream world.

P.S. at Michael Jackson being a non-white artist.

 

[Razorguns]

How can we possibly have channels like BET and Encore Black?! I don't know why this makes me absolutely insane, but it does. Every single person in this country should know that if anybody even attempted to make a TV station called HBO White, there would be riots. Does anybody else see the insane absurdity of this?!!! It blows my mind. Has this country become this spineless and pathetic? We have allowed ourselves to be held hostage by the race and minority card to the point that reverse racism is now going to become a problem. Apparently nobody understands the term "equal" or "discrimination". They only see it one way.

The concept of "black this and black that" grew out of a legitimate need, decades ago, of promoting black values, media and information to the black community -- since the mainstream, white-run, media was doing a sub-poor job.

Times have changed. However -- The billion-dollar industry of black-branded entities are still there and sure aren't going away.

There are many blacks in corporate america. Many blacks calling the shots in boardrooms. Many blacks financing entertainment. It has become much more of a playing field now. The barriers that were there before, do not exist now. Only barriers now to success are the same barriers anyone faces, regardless of color -- lack of education. lack of goals. dying early.

Affirmative action has actually turned itself around, and has become a negative dysfunctional, us-vs-them mentality. In todays' world of a cultural melting-pot, with peope of every color and ethnicity out there -- the need to continually divide everyone in groups and think as groups -- only serves to dysfunction society even more.

You can't even read a newspaper anymore, without reading articles about this group and that group, yelling at this group and that group over this and that. And everyone believing *their* agenda to be most important of all.

In the end -- the only thing sometimes we as americnas share together -- is the highway we drive on.

 

[nycgirl]

While I agree with you, you're living in a dream world.

I'm sure someone like you said the same thing 50-100 years ago to someone like me, when people of color and were not allowed to vote, attend colleges, work in the same environment as white people, sit a the same luncheon counter, drink from the same fountain, I think you get my point.

Things take time to evolve for the better.

 

[rudeboyja]

No, his point is that the other channels aren't named White NBC, White HBO, White CBS, and so on. The fact that they had to segregate themselves by using segretory names is bullshit. Like someone else said, if someone created the channel WET, White Entertainment Television, the blacks would throw a shit-fit. And there is a white version of the NAACP, it's called the NAAWP and they are generally considered a bunch of raicist rednecks, yet the NAACP is awarding as being a great organization. How does that work????

Well just ask yourself 2 questions. When & why was the NAACP invented. Why would the predominant race in terms of economics need an advancement association?

 

[bluepeter]

I'm sure someone like you said the same thing 50-100 years ago to someone like me, when people of color and were not allowed to vote, attend colleges, work in the same environment as white people, sit a the same luncheon counter, drink from the same fountain, I think you get my point.

Things take time to evolve for the better.

lol, you're assuming I'm white?

People of colour did something about it then and are doing something about it now. While it should be different, it isn't and I'm not about to condemn someone for trying to change things.

That said, I agree that BET is generally a poor representation.

 

[DIVISION]

Oh DIVISION.. so you dont like that Mexicans refuse to assimilate.. but you're perfectly okay with blacks disassimilating themseleves from society???


Prior to the 60s there was no such thing as Kwanza.. this whole "African culture" thing didnt even exist.. but in their efforts to completely remove themselves from "white society" they have created their own pseudo-African society.. and thats okay..???


LOL.. my god you're a fucking idiot... oh and I didnt send you red karma because I disagree with you,.. I sent you red karma because your a hypocrite and you are way to ignorant about the past to speak on this subject.

Settle down, Milo.....there's no need to get all upset over this.

I never said that it's ok for Hispanics to disassociate themselves from society just like I never said it's ok for blacks.

Minorities are going to keep their ethnicity regardless of how well they integrate in to white culture. Blacks will always be stigmatized based of the fact that their history is tainted by slavery, there's nothing you can say or do to remedy that fact. So if they want their own channels or shows I really have no problem with that.

As far as Hispanics, the only thing I didn't agree with is illegal immigrants coming here and expecting Americans to assimiliate in to their culture. Just like I don't go to a different country expecting them to speak English.




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