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How to Measure Liquidex

Riker29

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How to Measure Liquidex

Liquidex, the liquid sort of "generic" version of Arimidex, is a very concentrated substance, with 4 mg/ml being its rated concentration.

Arimidex is very potent (and not cheap either) and in many cases a person only needs to do like 1/4 mg of it for it to be effective.

But at that concentration,

1/4 mg of Arimidex,

in Liquidex at 4 mg/ml, means that ,

you would need to adminster 1/16 of a ml (cc)!


How the hell do you measure that?


Well, here is what I did.

The formulation of a "drop" of a liquid is actually a fairly controlled and repeatable process. Meaning, if all factors (liquid viscosity, temperature, pressure, etc.) are the same, the amount of liquid in each drop is fairly constant (if the drop is formed around a constant source .... like .... the head of a hollow needle .....).

So, I took a syringe, and sucked up like 3 CCs+ into it.

With an 18 gauge needle on the syringe, I carefully, slowly, pushed down the plunger, ....... and counted each drop ....

And after several trials, with very low amount of "drift" or changes in data, it turns out that ...


Liquidex, through an 18 gauge needle, at room temp, with the needle held stright down, will create 50 drops per ml.


So, extraploating from that (with a slight amount of "rounding" error),

When using Liquidex, take an 18 gauge needle and with the liquid at room temp, and with the needle held straight down,

for 1 mg Arimidex, 1/4 ml of Liquidex, measure 12 drops.

for 1/2 mg of Arimidex, 1/8 ml of Liquidex, measure 6 drops.

for 1/4 mg of Arimidex, 1/16 ml of Liquidex, measure 3 drops.

Hope this helps some people out there.

And for those that were thinking "did this guy WASTE all of that Liquidex?" - not a chance. I "dropped" it into the back end of another syringe, and then placed it back into the vial.



You can recreate this for yourself.

Grab 2 syringes. No, you wont waste any liquidex by doing this.

Remove the plunger from syringe A so that you have access to the back of the syringe cavity.

Use syringe B, and withdraw 3+ cc (ml) of Liquidex (thats a bit MORE than 3 ml).

Now hold syringe A straight up (upright) so that you can "drop" the liquidex into the back of it (the end opposite the needle end).

Now start pushing on the plunger for syringe B, and make sure that the liquidex which drips out falls into the back of the syringe A cavity.

Now as you push down on syringe B, watch how much liquid is in the syringe. When you hit the 3 ml (cc) mark on syringe B, start counting drops. Keep pushing slowly and surely, and keep counting drops.... keep counting until you get to the 1 ml mark on syringe B.

(Why? There are always inaccuracies at the very end and beginning of the syringe-adminstration process. By starting at 3+ ml, you actually get things flowing regularly. By going from the 3 to 1 ml mark, you have a full 2 cc to measure across. But stopping the measuring at the 1 ml mark, you dont deal with the inaccuracies of the end of the syringe cavity).

Now, you just counted how many drops were in 2 ml of liquid. Divide that by 2 (the 3 cc - 1 cc marks) to get the number of drops in 1 ml of liquid.

Now go ahead and push the remainder of the liquidex in syringe B into the back of syringe A - empty syringe B into it. Now, place the needle from syringe A into the liquidex vial, and place the plunger into the top of the syringe, and push the liquidex into the vial.


Hope that helps.

Now by knowing that Liquidex is 4 mg/ml, and now knowing how many drops are in each ml, you can figure out how to administer a specific dose to yourself.

I you cant do the Math, the either you should have paid more attention in math clas, or you are just too dumb to be doing AS anyway.
 
BiggerisBetter said:
too long of a post
bottom line, if you need to measure out 1/16 of a ml just use an insulin pin

Pardon ME for YOUR lack of attention span.

LOL

Besides, many guys dont have insulin pins. Most insulin pins are not 18 gauge, and are way way way too small to push something like liquidex (which is very thick). And many insulin pins do not have removeable needle as far as I know.
 
Riker29 said:
How to Measure Liquidex

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I you cant do the Math, the either you should have paid more attention in math clas, or you are just too dumb to be doing AS anyway.

Fuck that. KARMA FOR YOU BRO. This is a GREAT post and answered A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I think it laid it right out there for a lot of us, and was well worth the time to read.

NFG
 
Ha, I love it....an insulin syringe......liquidex is WAY too thick! I liked your idea, Riker. Seems like there was a post 6 months ago or so, and I think the guy came up with 3 or 4 drops from an 18 gauge, depending on the individual pressure used.
I'm not sure it isn't easier just to do 1mg every three days......the drug has been shown to be bio-active and effective for that long in the system.........at least, that's the way I do the tabs.
Slopain had some good info on this if I recall........slopain, what about it?
 
ironmaster said:
Ha, I love it....an insulin syringe......liquidex is WAY too thick! I liked your idea, Riker. Seems like there was a post 6 months ago or so, and I think the guy came up with 3 or 4 drops from an 18 gauge, depending on the individual pressure used.
I'm not sure it isn't easier just to do 1mg every three days......the drug has been shown to be bio-active and effective for that long in the system.........at least, that's the way I do the tabs.
Slopain had some good info on this if I recall........slopain, what about it?

That post was from me, or was based on this one. I grabbed my old post and updated a few things and reposted it here.

I hear ya about the once-every-3-days thing. The way I look at it, once you have "calibrated" the drops/ml of your setup (or just use the number I came up with biovem which is quite close for any 18 gauge as long as people puch SLOWLY and keep it at or near room temp) then you should be fine.

Just:

Keep it at room temp, and

dont push hard at all.

What you can do is load up a syringe with an 18 gauge needle, and then just use that for a few days. Works quite well withut having to make repeated stabs into the actual Liquidex vial.
 
ironmaster said:
Ha, I love it....an insulin syringe......liquidex is WAY too thick! I liked your idea, Riker.
{If you changed the size of the pin} on the insulin syring you should be fine right ? or is the hole in the insulin syringe to small to ? I never tried it yet but i was thinking about it .
 
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