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How to differentiate between prolactin and estrogen gyno
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Re: How to differentiate betwenn pro and estro gyno
Just to add, was running 500 mg test enanthate, 75 mg tren ed for 8 weeks, and GH, 2iu per day. Been off the tren for about 6 weeks, still running the test and GH. My nipples got real puffy sore. Begain running letro, ramped up to 2.5 ed, and dostinex at .5 every 3rd day. Been on that for 2 weeks now. Slighly better, but still flairing up at times. Thank you for the help.
Just to add, was running 500 mg test enanthate, 75 mg tren ed for 8 weeks, and GH, 2iu per day. Been off the tren for about 6 weeks, still running the test and GH. My nipples got real puffy sore. Begain running letro, ramped up to 2.5 ed, and dostinex at .5 every 3rd day. Been on that for 2 weeks now. Slighly better, but still flairing up at times. Thank you for the help.
Re: How to differentiate betwenn pro and estro gyno
Thanks Omega. I here you on that. It does get to me at times, but it has come down quite a bit, so dont think about it as much. I have done a ton of reading and asking about the dose, which led me to where I am at. Got a load of different answers and opinions, put them all together, and went with it. I am 6-2 261 if that makes a difference, and have not seen any negative effects from it.
Thanks Omega. I here you on that. It does get to me at times, but it has come down quite a bit, so dont think about it as much. I have done a ton of reading and asking about the dose, which led me to where I am at. Got a load of different answers and opinions, put them all together, and went with it. I am 6-2 261 if that makes a difference, and have not seen any negative effects from it.
blackpanther
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Re: How to differentiate betwenn pro and estro gyno
Just based on personal experience, as well as what I have observed myself on other bodybuilders:
The progestrone style gyno tends to have the nipples flare out alot or even sometimes flare out more to the side almost like a little half-banana shape. I saw this happen to a friend quite badly when using Deca, and when I ran it for the 1st time, the same happened to me although not as pronounced and seemed to subside gradually as I came off and also may have been aided with high doses of Vitamin B6. So that is my guess as silly as it may sound regarding how they might look.
I hope this info is somewhat accurate and can help you. Like I said it is only based on 2 people so make of it what you will.
jpg2003 said:
Just based on personal experience, as well as what I have observed myself on other bodybuilders:
The progestrone style gyno tends to have the nipples flare out alot or even sometimes flare out more to the side almost like a little half-banana shape. I saw this happen to a friend quite badly when using Deca, and when I ran it for the 1st time, the same happened to me although not as pronounced and seemed to subside gradually as I came off and also may have been aided with high doses of Vitamin B6. So that is my guess as silly as it may sound regarding how they might look.
I hope this info is somewhat accurate and can help you. Like I said it is only based on 2 people so make of it what you will.
Mavafanculo
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Re: How to differentiate betwenn pro and estro gyno
If you think about what prolactin based "gynecomastia" really is, it will help.
Mother Nature doesnt know you're a bodybuilder doing nandrolones which stimulate the progesterone receptors and cause the pituitary to hypersecret prolactin. It figures your elevated prolactin levels are endstage preparation for lactating to feed a child lol.
Soooo, the nipple itself will usually enlarge and/or get puffy, and will sometimes darken. This is a visual cue for the baby to be able to find the milk source. If allowed to progress, you can also actually lactate.
E gynecomastia is more glandular/lumpy in the tissue beneath the nipple.
There are of course mixed cases in the predisposed.
The dostinex at .5mg 2x weekly (or slightly more if you are already symtomatic) is usually effective for hyperProlactinemia
If you think about what prolactin based "gynecomastia" really is, it will help.
Mother Nature doesnt know you're a bodybuilder doing nandrolones which stimulate the progesterone receptors and cause the pituitary to hypersecret prolactin. It figures your elevated prolactin levels are endstage preparation for lactating to feed a child lol.
Soooo, the nipple itself will usually enlarge and/or get puffy, and will sometimes darken. This is a visual cue for the baby to be able to find the milk source. If allowed to progress, you can also actually lactate.
E gynecomastia is more glandular/lumpy in the tissue beneath the nipple.
There are of course mixed cases in the predisposed.
The dostinex at .5mg 2x weekly (or slightly more if you are already symtomatic) is usually effective for hyperProlactinemia
nzrodney
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All of the replies ^^^ are on the right track. Prolactin Gyno is effectively treated by letro, dostinex & B6. Dont forget to reduce your letro down over 5 days once the puffy sore nips are back to normal and continue on an Ai like adex & or nolva & clomid as part of your PCT protocol. Prolactin gyno effects me under the pec in the glands as well as in the nipple. I have effectively treated this with OTC 6oxo & formadrol as I cant always get letro, so there are other easy solutions. Dont be too concerned things will stabilise in a few days.
blacksabbath1987
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come off the growth hormone that maybe the problem!!! it has happened to me as well as others.nzrodney said:
I appreciate all of the help. Mine were definitely puffy, but it did not seem to have any type of odd shape, other than swollen, and possibly slightly darker.
Damn Mava, this is one subject I never did too much research on, because before this, never had the problem. After reading about the cause, regarding the child birth, I think I will be more careful the next time, LOL. If I lactated, I think that would have been the end of my cycling for while.
As of today, I have not been swollen or sore in that area for about 48 hours. How long do you guys figure I should stay on? I was thinking another 7-14 days, just to be certain. I have read 2 weeks, some say stay on for 6 weeks prior to ramping down.
Damn Mava, this is one subject I never did too much research on, because before this, never had the problem. After reading about the cause, regarding the child birth, I think I will be more careful the next time, LOL. If I lactated, I think that would have been the end of my cycling for while.
As of today, I have not been swollen or sore in that area for about 48 hours. How long do you guys figure I should stay on? I was thinking another 7-14 days, just to be certain. I have read 2 weeks, some say stay on for 6 weeks prior to ramping down.
nzrodney
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Stay on 7 days after the gyno symptoms subside. Then taper down over 5 days to help gaude against estrogen rebound iejpg2003 said:
day 1 - 2.0mg
day 2 - 1.5mg
day 3 - 1.0mg
day 4 - .50mg
day 5 - .25mg
further sup using an AI like aromisan or arimidex or a serm like nolva recommended but go light dose if still on cycle or regular PCT if completing cycle.
needtogetaas
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Re: How to differentiate betwenn pro and estro gyno
Bad ass post bro.Mavafanculo said:
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