you cant be pushing a heavy weight doing all those pressing movements..if your doing 5x5 that should be pretty darn taxing enough..i dont see how you can be making gains even if you were on gear!!! im not being a dick but thats your "mind" telling you you need all that volume to grow..ive been there and done the high volume and it worked to a point..heavier weight with less volume is the ticketeat big said:heres my chest routine now thats worked really well, i require a lot of volume to grow:
flat bench 5x5
incline bench 5x5
decline bench 5x5
peck deck 4x12
cables 4x12
incline flyes 4x12
dips 2x12
my chest is one of my stronger parts, im only 18 too
wnt2bBeast said:you cant be pushing a heavy weight doing all those pressing movements....heavier weight with less volume is the ticket
but surely your normal chest workout does not include 20+ working sets?cwick0 said:Yes and no on this one.
I can hit is heavy as hell and still kill the reps, but then again i am probably an exception to the rule. Last night's chest workout was great, but didnt get enough volume, so i wasnt tired or fatigued one bit.
incline barbell: 20,10,10,10,10 (60 reps total)
flat barbell (all rest pauses): 10,3,3,3,3, 2 (pr with 425).
incline flys: 3 sets of 10
50 pushups.
wnt2bBeast said:but surely your normal chest workout does not include 20+ working sets?
cwick0 said:Overall sets yes, but not working sets. However, you must remember that i dont count anything until i hit 315 on flat and 225/275 on incline.
wnt2bBeast said:totally understand you..
i just switched my bench routine yesterday but even when i was on 5x5..i always did about 4 warm up sets in addition to the 5 work sets..
JohnRobHolmes said:i find that i warm up easy on bench and squat with just 5 rep sets, bumping up the weight maybe four times before the work sets. but for back stuff, if i dont warm up within 10 reps of anything, something is wrong. i just have an easier pump with pulling. however, i dont use crazy heavy weights yet, so injury is not as likely doing 135 5x5 as 405 1x5 and my "warmups" arent the same as you bigger guys.
wnt2bBeast said:you cant be pushing a heavy weight doing all those pressing movements..if your doing 5x5 that should be pretty darn taxing enough..i dont see how you can be making gains even if you were on gear!!! im not being a dick but thats your "mind" telling you you need all that volume to grow..ive been there and done the high volume and it worked to a point..heavier weight with less volume is the ticket
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