how easily does dbol aromatize?

[cable]

my friend gave me some dbol to tide me over until my winny comes in.
i've had some problems, as far as estrogen conversion goes, with taking testosterones (mostly w/ prop).
is it a good idea, even to take low doses without nolvadex or something?
thanks

 

[jc21]

BTW, these guys taking 50mg/day with no antiestrogens are completely fucked up

explaination please?

i take 75mg/day of dbol with no antiestogens and have no problem with gyno, it is all how the person reacts. obviously i am not prone to gyno so therefore i would not need to take antie's. i have them just in case but have never taken any.

 

[powerhouse7]

It does depend on each person. A friend of mine just had gyno surgery caused by 25mg a day of dbol. I can look at it and my nips start to itch.

 

[jc21]

BOT

no as u can see by my pic my legs are not lean ( but they are over 30 inches) and my waist is abot 34 inches right now, so no it is not small either. but when i cut up for a show it is a different story. first off i am wondering where u got this info about arnold. have u talked to him personally about his cycles? cause i have heard many different stories about his cycles. i dont know your goals, but i would like to go to nationals and compete soon. i have talked to a well known national competitor that takes 50 dbol tabs a day. and he looks good on stage.
thanks for the concern though.

 

[brainiac]

no more than 5mg/day without antiestrogens if you don't want hpta effect. Even that after a week or so will cause some minor mino shut down. 5mg/day is far from worthless, dbol is da shit in low dosages. It gets you nice and pumped for the gym.

you could take 10mg/day and not have estrogen problems but you would get hpta problems which you would want antiestogens after you stop them for.

15mg/day will shut down hpta and will give estrogen problems to sensitive individuals.

20mg/day + and you are an idiot to use without antiestorgens if you are worried about estrogen problems.

BTW, these guys taking 50mg/day with no antiestrogens are completely fucked up.

That is good advice but I once read the averqage 20-30 yr male needs at least 5mg 2X/day to get enough to pass through the liver and into the blood to enable a state of continuous positive nitrogen retention. 5mg a day might be OK> If you stop taking shits it is a pretty good indicator that your improving your nitrogen balance needed for growth.

 

[wolviesclaws]

I TAKE 50MG A DAY AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM SAME SAME :

explaination please?

i take 75mg/day of dbol with no antiestogens and have no problem with gyno, it is all how the person reacts. obviously i am not prone to gyno so therefore i would not need to take antie's. i have them just in case but have never taken any.

 

[brainiac]

Another variable to think about is toxicity at those levels. I respect my liver too much to play that kind of roulette. Even some pro BB's have said off record that it took a few years of on off cycles before their tits reacted/grew in that manner. Leesin tou yor bah-dee.

 

[~HOUNDOG~]

no more than 5mg/day without antiestrogens if you don't want hpta effect. Even that after a week or so will cause some minor mino shut down. 5mg/day is far from worthless, dbol is da shit in low dosages. It gets you nice and pumped for the gym.

you could take 10mg/day and not have estrogen problems but you would get hpta problems which you would want antiestogens after you stop them for.

15mg/day will shut down hpta and will give estrogen problems to sensitive individuals.

20mg/day + and you are an idiot to use without antiestorgens if you are worried about estrogen problems.

BTW, these guys taking 50mg/day with no antiestrogens are completely fucked up.

I totally agree.

 

[Punschkrapfen]

15mg/day will shut down hpta and will give estrogen problems to sensitive individuals.

not if you take it all in the morning.

http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/10-2000/032111.html

 

[el cubano]

Wow, from reading these responses I'd have to say that none of you have learned a dam thing by reading this board.

OK, first of all, what are you talking about when you say that you have some dbol to tide you over til your winny gets here? What the hell is that? Nice cycle planning!LMAO. You don't just take dbol to "tide you over". Dbol is a very strong androgen which is to be taken in serious "BULKING" cycles. It's not a "tide you over" steroid.

Next, dbol will pretty much aromatise at any dosage, it's just the amount that makes a difference. For instance, if you were to only take 15mg per day or less, the "aromatizaion" (new word) will probably be so small that you don't notice it. At 15mg or above, (15mg seems to be the "breaking" point) you will notice it in some form. For most it's just bloating, for the other unfortunate fellows it's cone titty hell.

Now, my suggestion is this, next time you plan a cycle, here are the steps to follow 1. Actually PLAN the cycle, 2. Get everything single thing you need for the cycle 3. Do the cycle and stick to your original plan.

So, to sum it up, no, don't take the dbol to tide you over. Don't take dbo unless you have an anti on hand. Especially don't take it if you already know that you are prone to bitch tits.

 

[cable]

exactamente, BOT.
El cubano, por cuantos años has usado esteroides? Cuantos años tienes?
it hasn't even been a year since i took AS for the first time. i'm still trying to find out which drugs work well with my body. i'm not sampling or anything.
but seriously, did you start out using AS with a $1,000 cycle, taking 1000 mg of this and 250 of this and several other things all at once?
i might eventually take that kind of cycle, but right now i'm just trying to get bigger, and everytime i take something, I do.