How do so many of you get TRT?

[Killler]

I find it impossible for me!

I am 29!


I have low test,both total(300 ng/dl)) and free(3 pg/ml) all my life!

I have been to two endos-the second one being a progressive endo-prescribes hormones readily.


Neither of them would give me TRT.

The first one said she didn`t know much about testosterone,and referred me to the other.

This other one is a famous endo,who gives interviews all the time.
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Claims test is the most important thing for men,advocates administering testosterone in the moment of angina attack,rather than nitroglycerin,and all such rant.

She also gave me this speech when I came to her,and then sent me to do and array of tests.

When I came back,her story changed.

THERE IS NO WAY YOU`RE GETTING TRT,she said,BECAUSE YOUR SPERM COUNT IS ALL RIGHT,AND TRT WILL SHUT IT DOWN.


She prescribed me,Metformin.She said it will reduce my abdominal fat,and this will increase my free testosterone.
And sent me on my way.

Free testosterone is bullshit btw.

There are herbs that I used,which skyrocketed my free test.

Free test won`t do shit for your strength,fat,mass,laziness.
It`s only good for the libido,and not so much.
I have tested this over months and months time.

There is BTW a whole array of these idiot endos that rely only on free test,if your total is in the 300s,like mine(lower limit)
This is all bull.

TOTAL test is what it matters,otherwise there would be no need for AAS or TRT,we would all just be using tongkat ali or stinging nettle.



I feel like shit my whole life.

I need more alpha,more stamina,I`m lazy and tired,every idiot in the gym has more mass than me,in spite of me having worked my ass off.
I have a fat belly which has not been removed by Glucophage.

I do have great strength in the gym-like my 360 lb incline press-which I have gained by training my ass off for 10 years and having a smart strength building routine.


But I need to look and feel better,be less moody like a woman,and not be tired!~



What should I do?

Should I go see a 3rd endo?

Should I self prescribe 100 mg per week for 3 months on/3 months off?


How do you guys get TRT in spite of mostly having good sperm count?

BTW All of heavy AAS users that I met through the gyms for years have children!

This aspect of AAS use is greatly exaggerated IMO!


BTW I`m not in the USA!

 

[joeblow12345]

Bro crash your test levels then go to the doc. Your going in too high that's why your getting denied. Do a 6-8 weeks cycle of test prop. Then wait a few weeks to let it come out your system and don't do a pct. go to the doc and get the blood work done and done deal. Then take half the dose they prescribe to keep your levels low until they prescribe the max dose. 100 mg week is gonna keep you in the 500 range. 200 will keep you around 1000+. Milk that shit and get all you can.

 

[stevesmi]

not sure how it works outside the USA. but here its all about WHO you go to. all the guys i know who are older beer bellied dudes get androgel and they are still fat beer bellied. its not a magic potiont and there is no guarantee you will change your life.. you mentioned you work your ass off in the gym and i believe you.. however there is so much more to lifestyle than that. stress is a killer, your job can fuck you up, your diet, lack of sleep/rest, a nagging wife/gf.. i could keep going man. until you fix those issues across the board doesn't matter if you go on TRT. work on those things first, if all else fails and no doc will prescribe you then i guess go on self TRT?? but try and fix things first

 

[buddhabuilder]

I could ask for your stats, and then go on about how increased muscle mass through training and diet will increase your Test levels. I do that regularly because it's true. If you want TRT, go to a TRT clinic. That is all they do. They go by different names like "Longevity Center" and such, but they all do pretty much the same thing.

 

[AAP]

Can you post your blood work? There is more to it than just a low test level that endos look at.

Now also most docs are still stuck in the dark ages about HRT/TRT methods now days. A lot of peeps off the boards say fuck that and go straight to an antiaging / TRT clinic that advertises for men. You have to be in incredibly bad shape or a female to get reject by them. They are a bit more expensive, but you get on them for about 6-8 months and THEN you go to a doc and say "listen up dude, I am being treated for this and need you to oversee it because I can't afford this place anymore." He will do his own tests then which isn't that bad as you are being treated the entire time so you don't feel like shit otherwise being off and wishing he would hurry the hell up. If you are on an inject schedule from one MD, then another MD is not going to suggest something like androgel to try out like most do right off the bat.

Also, you may want to stay on the HRT/TRT clinic instead of going to an endo and pay cash that way it is kept off your medical records and insurance companies will not have a reason to turn you down for anything in the future.