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mnason722

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Can somebody please help me with what I need to do.. I will devote my life to do whatever it takes to get my arms like this and does anybody know how long it might take? I am so motivated but I just don't know what to do. I would appreciate if anybody can give me some steps to achieve this, heres a pic of the kind of arms that I want:
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Alright now here is a pic of my arms right now so it might help on what I might have to do from here:
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I would appreciate any help whatsoever. I already have the motivation/dedication to do whatever much it takes I just need tips/instructions on how to start from here. Thanks guys.

I'm 6'1", 140 pounds.

Also I am wondering like, First I know I need to bulk up before cutting... There isn't much food around the house so I was wondering in the bulking up phase is it alright to eat fast food like McDonalds, Taco Bell, Burger King, etc. And eat stuff like Oreo Cookies?

I seem to be only gaining fat on my stomach area like when I sit down my stomach seems flabby when my chest isn't really that big neither are my arms. I wish the food can just distribute into my chest and arms but the only thing I notice that gets fat is my stomach, anybody else had this same problem?
 
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if you can buy fast food, you can go to the grocery store. Buy chicken steak turkey potatoes yams rice fruits vegetables oats and just about everything else, ice cream whatever. you dont' need to eat a ton of fried and fast food to gain weight, but you can have some, pizza and all the good stuff. You have to start reading and learning about training, this is definately a good place to start, you need to gain weight throughout your whole body to get your arms bigger. If you have a training schedule please post it, i would think a 3 day split every week, using mostly heavy basic lifts will help you meet your goals.
 
You need to eat as much food as you can, Oreos and Taco Bell are ideal foods for building muscle. Exercise wise you'll need to do curls 5 days a week, 5 sets of 5 different exercises to make sure you hit the bi's from all angles.

doing crunches daily will keep the fat off your stomach.

good luck bro, if you need more advice then try bodybuilding.com's forums as you'll find a lot of like minded trainees there.
 
Assuming you're not trolling (I'll give you 9-1 against) then you need to go get yourself a copy of supersquats or brawn & start doing some very basic beginners training.
 
TRICEPS, TRICEPS, TRICEPS.

close-grip bench, weighted dips (i prefer them seated), overhead extensions/presses or skull crushers, and rope extensions
 
As we all know the arm is 1/3 Bicep and 2/3 Tricep...so in my opinion, work your tricep more than ur bicep...but dont neglect the bicep....

Close grip bench
Weighted Dips
skull Crushers
PushDowns

Preacher Curls
Incline CUrls
21's
reverse curls

do this everyother day...(gotta give your bodys CNS to recover)

now go buy sum food like jcp said and get thick!
 
Preacher Curls WHY FIRST?
Incline CUrls
21's
reverse curls

do this everyother day...(gotta give your bodys CNS to recover)

NOT A GOOD IDEA TO WORK BIS AND TRIS EVERY OTHER DAY, your other lifts will suffer since you arent recovered enough.
 
cwick0 said:
Preacher Curls WHY FIRST?
Incline CUrls
21's
reverse curls

do this everyother day...(gotta give your bodys CNS to recover)

NOT A GOOD IDEA TO WORK BIS AND TRIS EVERY OTHER DAY, your other lifts will suffer since you arent recovered enough.
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preachers dont gotta be first i was just listing some of the excersizes people find most effective...and EOD as long as ur other lifts dont suffer is fine...but if u find u cant handle it...dont do it
 
You need to make the rest of your body grow if you want your arms to grow...I'm assuming you are not a troll...basically the body will keep homestasis at all cost...so very rarely will you see a guy with 20 inch arms and NO chest back legs shoulders, etc....why would you want to look like that anyway...

Check out the training stickies at the top of the board....that should point you in the right direction
 
i remember reading some where for every inch you want to add to your arms you have to add about 10 lbs of mass to your body...
 
if i were you i would lift some weights !!!

seriously eat and push some heavy iron for size...... focus on triceps more then bi's and do the basics (dead's,squats etc) an you will be on a good road to hugeness !!!

how old are you ?
 
Tweakle said:
You need to eat as much food as you can, Oreos and Taco Bell are ideal foods for building muscle. Exercise wise you'll need to do curls 5 days a week, 5 sets of 5 different exercises to make sure you hit the bi's from all angles.

doing crunches daily will keep the fat off your stomach.

good luck bro, if you need more advice then try bodybuilding.com's forums as you'll find a lot of like minded trainees there.
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great advice ;) ;) :verygood:
 
You got a problem with my advice? ;)

If that doesnt work there's always Anadrol and Tren maybe some deca too (if he wants to build legs like Leonardo DiCaprio)

dude posting the question, seriously just buy a copy of beyond brawn and read it fromcover to cover.. some guys here might knock the HG training but for you it's gonna be the only way to go
 
I'm also going to revise my Beginner's guide to weight training a bit and then bump it.
 
Thanks for all of the advice.. it really means a lot to me.

I'm 19 years old and right now I don't really have a workout schedule other then having 20 lb weights that I do curls like every few days. I usually focus on my upper body.

Basically what I do is I do 10 reps of 3 sets of curls.

Then I do my triceps I take 1 of the 20lb weights and I put it behind my head and I lift I do 10 reps of that 3 sets.

Then I grab my two 8 pound weights I lay on my bed I extend my hands in the air and I slowly push them to the side then back to the top to work on my chest area. I also do 10 reps and 3 sets of that.

Then for shoulders I grab my 20 pound weights holding them in my hands and I just do my shoulders by rolling them back... or I get the 8 pound weights I lift both of them in the air and I just bring them down.

How often should I do all of this? Ever since I read that overtraining is like not working out at all I pretty much do this like 2 times a week sometimes even once a week. I try to eat everything I see but sometimes I can't eat the right foods because theres a lot of junk food around the house and the reason why I'm probably so skinny is because I refrained myself from eating those and I would only eat good food so sometimes I would only eat 2 meals a day. I drink about a gallon of water daily.
 
I joined the Spa Fitness near my neighborhood but seriously, they don't give a shit about anything... When I had joined there when I graduated from high school over the summer I paid for membership there and I would ask them for help and what they told me was do 30 minutes of cardio first thing in the morning and they would over charge me for Protein drinks they charged $5 for the RTD 50 Gram Vanilla Bean shake, they told me to buy all these products like Glutamine, Creatine and Whey Protein that only had 17 grams in there, pretty much I couldn't afford it and just said fuck it to them, whenever I had asked how to get thick instead of just "cut" because I told them I know if I just lift weights how I am I won't get bulky, I'll just get cut and still be the same size I want to be bulky and he didn't say anything about eating a lot they just said "Oh if you keep lifting you will get bulk no matter what" but I know that isn't true because I know a lot of my friends who are the same height and size as me that have like 2% body fat that are just cut but they aren't big at all.. I don't want that for me.

But from what I've been reading online basically I need to eat, eat, eat and get fat right? Like I'm 140 now, I don't mind just eating everythign in sight until I'm like 200 pounds by January 2005 and then starting of the year just hit the gym and start cutting cause I feel that it'll be easier to get cut then to get thick because of past experiences. I used to work out in high school all 4 years but I would never get thick just my bench increased like 5 pounds every week but that's pretty much it.
 
go buy a book called brawn by stuart mcrobert.
its a good starting point if you are serious about getting results from your training.

eat at least 200 grams of protein daily/ and at your weight i wouldn't worry about getting fat. try eating everything in sight as long as you meeting your protein requirements.

i'll post up some sample daily meals for you latter.
 
Here is a sample of what I eat on a daily basis:

Morning - 2 Egg Cheese Omelet, A lot of Rice, Toast, Sausage
Lunch - Two Wheat Bread Peanut Butter & Jelly Sandwich
Snack usually oreos, pop tarts, anything I find around the house
Dinner - I usually have TV dinners laying around I make either Lasagna, Hamburger Helper or Macoroni & Cheese
Snack sometimes I eat a chocolate strawberry ice cream bar, eat plain bread, frosted flake cereal, whatever I find laying around.

Throughout the day I have a water jug that I re-fill constantly so I drink approx 1-2 gallons a day.
 
If you really want to bulk up you need to plan ahead and buy things to eat, rather than just "whatever is laying around." It does take effort and some $$ (though many people here don't have lots of money and they have found good cheap sources). Junk food is ok sometimes, but you don't want it every day. You can replace at least one of those snacks with a good protein/weight gainer shake (can be homemade not necessarily that crap they sell at the gym). Add another meal between breakfast and lunch.
 
I bought this Whey Protein Vanilla Shake for $30 but my god it tastes like shit... I usually have to mix a lot of fruit like Strawberry, Bluberry, Banana before I can get rid of the taste but I never have the fruits in the house so I don't drink the shake, I can't drink it bare because of it's nasty taste. I wanted to order the RTD 50 Vanilla Bean off the net for $30 but it only comes with 12 cans but at least 50 grams of protein would help a lot.

The Whey Protein I have now is 88 ounce, IRON-TEK Essential Protein 100% Pure Whey I usually mix it with 1 cup Vitamin D Meadow Gold Milk, handful of Ice and just blend it. Occasionally I add banana and strawberry but not often. This is only 17 grams of protein so I would have to suffer drinking this 3 times a day.. so if anybody can refer me to some good tasting high protein bars or better shakes please do. I don't care about spending money on this stuff I just care about spending money and them not working. If I spent $1,000 on suppliments and it worked I would be happy and satisfied, I'm just very cautious of spending $1,000 and after It's all done I'm still the same.

I have tons of cans of Tuna laying around but I never ate seafood in my life. So that sucks because Tuna has about 13 grams of protein.
 
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quit answering with what you are doing thats not working and read the advice of what people have given you.

a couple of the links have most of the info that you need. click on them and get started.

eat 200-250 grams of protein a day (beef/fish/chicken)
eat good clean carbs (pasta/brown rice,etc.)
cut out the junk(oreo's/any processed sugar food)
lift hard and heavy training the body 3times a week concentrating on deadlifts/squats/overhead press/bench press

this will put some quality size on you.

one more thing... welcome to elite and i hope you meet you goals.
 
Tweakle said:
If he wants to build legs like Leonardo DiCaprio
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Hey now, let's not get carried away here...Let's be honest, Leo has great genetics coupled with unrivaled intensity. And a personal chef. Legs like his are coveted by many but only attainable by a few.
 
If you are looking for some good quality, good tasting, and cheap prot powder...

Check out www.TrueProtein.com

I like their stuff...head to toe.

You need to be eating good clean foods in LARGE amounts. When I was around 200 pounds I cooked every meal the night before.
2 chicken breasts
2 turkey breasts
6oz red meat
4 fish fillets
1 gallon milk
1 pound pasts (dry)
lots of other carbs...of choice

It takes TIME to build the body that you want. I've been training for near 11 years and at 290+ I'm not satisfied.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
If you are looking for some good quality, good tasting, and cheap prot powder...

Check out www.TrueProtein.com

I like their stuff...head to toe.

You need to be eating good clean foods in LARGE amounts. When I was around 200 pounds I cooked every meal the night before.
2 chicken breasts
2 turkey breasts
6oz red meat
4 fish fillets
1 gallon milk
1 pound pasts (dry)
lots of other carbs...of choice

It takes TIME to build the body that you want. I've been training for near 11 years and at 290+ I'm not satisfied.

B True
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b fold, what kind of protein specifically do you buy from trueprotein? cos they gots like 80 million different varieties

thanks
CN
 
Fun fact: I'm pretty sure doggcrapp is the owner, or at least part-owner of True Protein.
 
jloflexin405 said:
Low rep compound movments like bench, squat, shoulder press, rows. All heavy, but never skimp on form.
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these exercises arent necessarily LOW REP. Mix and match your sets, reps, and exercises.
 
ChinkNasty said:
b fold, what kind of protein specifically do you buy from trueprotein? cos they gots like 80 million different varieties

thanks
CN
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I have just their basic whey prot powder. I also picked up some of their creatine and dex/malto mix (50/50 mixed) and it is pretty darn good as well.

I'm really impressed with them so far.

B True
 
MsBeverlyHills said:
truthfully, you will develop bigger arms by not working them- but by doing squats, benches, rows, deads, and dips...not by doing a specialized arm routine.

you only weigh 140, you need to put on size all over your body. For every 10-12 lbs of LBM- you will put on about 1" to your arms.
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yes yes yes!!! Ms Bev i read the 10 lb =1 inch gain on the arms somewhere else as well, i just wrote it in another post here..do you know exactly where to find that info (no fuss, only if its handy)!! 9 out of 10 think its a magic arm routine..show me someone with a big squat and they will most definitely have big arms!!
 
mnason722 said:
I bought this Whey Protein Vanilla Shake for $30 but my god it tastes like shit... I usually have to mix a lot of fruit like Strawberry, Bluberry, Banana before I can get rid of the taste but I never have the fruits in the house so I don't drink the shake, I can't drink it bare because of it's nasty taste. I wanted to order the RTD 50 Vanilla Bean off the net for $30 but it only comes with 12 cans but at least 50 grams of protein would help a lot.

The Whey Protein I have now is 88 ounce, IRON-TEK Essential Protein 100% Pure Whey I usually mix it with 1 cup Vitamin D Meadow Gold Milk, handful of Ice and just blend it. Occasionally I add banana and strawberry but not often. This is only 17 grams of protein so I would have to suffer drinking this 3 times a day.. so if anybody can refer me to some good tasting high protein bars or better shakes please do. I don't care about spending money on this stuff I just care about spending money and them not working. If I spent $1,000 on suppliments and it worked I would be happy and satisfied, I'm just very cautious of spending $1,000 and after It's all done I'm still the same.

I have tons of cans of Tuna laying around but I never ate seafood in my life. So that sucks because Tuna has about 13 grams of protein.
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Supplements are just that: supplements, not substitutes. You should focus on eating sufficient amounts of protein and carbs, not which protein powder is best. So many beginners start out buying creatine, protein powder, HGH, chromium, and other supplements, but they neglect their regular diet. Your diet is KEY, not supplements.

It's a pain in the ass, but COUNT THOSE CALORIES. To get started, try keeping a journal of everything you eat in a single day, and at the end of the day, figure out how many calories you've eaten. I did it once, and was amazed.

Make up a diet, or search the diet discussion boards for other people's diets. I'd suggest eating ~200-250g of protein, 300-400g carbs, and 60-80g fat.

As for working out, look around for bulking routines, or ask some of the pros around here.
 
As far as a big squat building big arms, I think you guys are somewhat creating a cause and effect where it's not that simple. Guys with big arms don't have big arms because they have a big squat, they have big arms and a big squat because they train hard and smart and eat right.

Remember this scene from the Simpsons:

Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
 
Backlash said:
As far as a big squat building big arms, I think you guys are somewhat creating a cause and effect where it's not that simple. Guys with big arms don't have big arms because they have a big squat, they have big arms and a big squat because they train hard and smart and eat right.

Remember this scene from the Simpsons:

Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
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Yes training hard and eating right are also a part of the eqaution..But your dead wrong if you think squats wont build big arms..Take 2 twins one who doesnt squat and does 10 or more sets for bi's and 10+ sets for tri's..the other one squats heavy, does some heavy cg bench pushdowns and some assistance work for bi's maybe 5x5!! who do you think will have bigger arms??
 
wnt2bBeast said:
Yes training hard and eating right are also a part of the eqaution..But your dead wrong if you think squats wont build big arms..Take 2 twins one who doesnt squat and does 10 or more sets for bi's and 10+ sets for tri's..the other one squats heavy, does some heavy cg bench pushdowns and some assistance work for bi's maybe 5x5!! who do you think will have bigger arms??
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I would say that the heavy cg bench psuhdowns, and a bit of assistance work for bis and tris would be the best. I don't think the squats do a lot for bis and tris, and I also don't think that doing 10+ sets for bis and tris is good.

If you really wanted to prove that squats built bis and tris you would want to take someone and have them only do squats vs someone who does a good rounded routine and then compare them.
 
The tri's are the biggest muscle in your arms.

Eat every thing
Plenty of protein

Exercise doing:
Dips
Tri pull downs
Bench press
 
Backlash said:
I would say that the heavy cg bench psuhdowns, and a bit of assistance work for bis and tris would be the best. I don't think the squats do a lot for bis and tris, and I also don't think that doing 10+ sets for bis and tris is good.

If you really wanted to prove that squats built bis and tris you would want to take someone and have them only do squats vs someone who does a good rounded routine and then compare them.
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Im not going to argue with you..Assuming 2 genetically identical people one squatting doing no arm work and some one doing a "well rounded arm routine"..the guy that squats will have MUCH bigger arms...dont believe me thats fine..take a look at some Powerlifters you think they devote entire workouts to arms? nope!! good luck trying to build big guns!!
 
I didn't say well-rounded arm routine - I just well-rounded routine. I have never heard of any powerlifter who doesn't do arm work. Mostly it consists of board presses, close-grip bench, rack lockouts, etc (not isolation exercises). Many powerlifters are also doing hammer curls to help with biceps tendonitis. Anyways, like you said, no need to argue.

The main thing is that squats are very important and should be part of everyone's routine.

As a secondary point, I think you should include at least one compound tris exercise and one bis exercise.
 
I'm not sure if I really buy into the "every 10 pounds will yield 1" on the arms". I began with about 14-15" arms maybe and 152 pounds. I'm currently leaner and 290 or so with 19-20" arms.

I've gone long periods without training my biceps and I can't tell much difference. I can tell that they look a LITTLE better when I train them but I now train them pretty heavy for injury prevention (which is important in Strongman). I don't want to tear a bicep on a log clean and press, tire flip, atlas stone, farmers, etc...

Every muscle should be trained IMO. The big ones ALWAYS get the most priority though...always. Spend 20 minutes doing squats then 3-5 minutes doing biceps or triceps.

B True
 
The key is definitely priority. Arm training is fun and easy and doesn't make you hurt too much. Deadlifts, squats, and cleans are hard and cause great pain and take effort. You can't come into the gym Friday before happy hour to pump up on these, you can't squat or deadlift effectively with little sleep or a hangover or with 15 minutes to dedicate to a workout. people don't do these lifts because they're hard and taxing (which is why they work) people you meet will make every excuse not to do them such as, they hurt your knees, you don't need them, I only wanna look good, etc....It is all BS, so many people are so small because all they wanna do is train arms, and bench big numbers (even if they get burried and require being rescued by their spotter every set). Remmber that you'll get the most progress by doing the hardest and mosr avoided lifts.

You're young and getting started, don't fall into the trap that so many guys your age do. The guys who only train arms and walk around in wife beaters holding their arms out to the side like they're lats are too big to put them down and they weigh 150lbs and are weak as piss and the only people who are impressed with them are middle school girls.

Also, don't turn into a guy whose routine looks like this:

mon.

1.) Flat bench :135x10
185x5 (plus 5 with spot)
225x2 (with ass in air and add 5 reps cause spotter picked up the weight)
275 x burried (attempted to put ass in air, spotter rescued, you think you lifted the weight)
315x totally burried (ass in air, spotter almost tore something getting the weight off you, but a couple 15 yr old kids saw you with 3 plates and now think you're tough)

2.) every conceivable type of flye from d-bells to cables to machines (usually 2 hours worth)

3.) 1 hour of every conceivable type of biceps curl on every apparatus in the gym

Tuesday-Thursday Off

Friday pump up arms in a shirt thats 3 sizes too small while you are wearing cologne. workout only takes 5 min because you can't miss happy hour.

Saturday-Sunday Off

I don't mean this as a flame, but you're young, and while you are starting training for the same reasons a lot of young people start training, PLEASE don't be stupid. You are SMALL at 140, and when you see some jackass who is small at 170, but looks big to you, you'll wanna follow his every move, and most likely he'll follow the above listed workout. If I can steer 1 person in the right direction and help them understand what this is all about, I will be happy. If you wanna be thick, work your whole body, do compound movements, and focus on weaknesses.....if you're serious and want some program/diet advice, don't hesisate to ask.......Eat big and lift big and you'll be big, when YOU'RE big, your arms will be big too.
 
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BigBadBootyDaddy29 said:
The key is definitely priority. Arm training is fun and easy and doesn't make you hurt too much. Deadlifts, squats, and cleans are hard and cause great pain and take effort. You can't come into the gym Friday before happy hour to pump up on these, you can't squat or deadlift effectively with little sleep or a hangover or with 15 minutes to dedicate to a workout. people don't do these lifts because they're hard and taxing (which is why they work) people you meet will make every excuse not to do them such as, they hurt your knees, you don't need them, I only wanna look good, etc....It is all BS, so many people are so small because all they wanna do is train arms, and bench big numbers (even if they get burried and require being rescued by their spotter every set). Remmber that you'll get the most progress by doing the hardest and mosr avoided lifts.

You're young and getting started, don't fall into the trap that so many guys your age do. The guys who only train arms and walk around in wife beaters holding their arms out to the side like they're lats are too big to put them down and they weigh 150lbs and are weak as piss and the only people who are impressed with them are middle school girls.

Also, don't turn into a guy whose routine looks like this:

mon.

1.) Flat bench :135x10
185x5 (plus 5 with spot)
225x2 (with ass in air and add 5 reps cause spotter picked up the weight)
275 x burried (attempted to put ass in air, spotter rescued, you think you lifted the weight)
315x totally burried (ass in air, spotter almost tore something getting the weight off you, but a couple 15 yr old kids saw you with 3 plates and now think you're tough)

2.) every conceivable type of flye from d-bells to cables to machines (usually 2 hours worth)

3.) 1 hour of every conceivable type of biceps curl on every apparatus in the gym

Tuesday-Thursday Off

Friday pump up arms in a shirt thats 3 sizes too small while you are wearing cologne. workout only takes 5 min because you can't miss happy hour.

Saturday-Sunday Off

I don't mean this as a flame, but you're young, and while you are starting training for the same reasons a lot of young people start training, PLEASE don't be stupid. You are SMALL at 140, and when you see some jackass who is small at 170, but looks big to you, you'll wanna follow his every move, and most likely he'll follow the above listed workout. If I can steer 1 person in the right direction and help them understand what this is all about, I will be happy. If you wanna be thick, work your whole body, do compound movements, and focus on weaknesses.....if you're serious and want some program/diet advice, don't hesisate to ask.......Eat big and lift big and you'll be big, when YOU'RE big, your arms will be big too.
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LMFAO at the "workout routine"...um I think you forgot some abs for summer ;)

On a serious note...this is some great advice...the last paragraph speaks volumes to me...I remember when I started working out a year and a half ago at around 150lbs...everyone looked so big....I never imagined getting to 170....I got to 170...then everyone that was 200 was huge...then I got to 205....which I"m at now.....and those people seem so small...

When I started working out I had no clue what I was doing...please listen to the advice everyone is giving you and build a well rounded routine...I think you said you were 17? I am as well...take advantage of this period in your life where growth can be exponential...
 
This debate is silly because nobody only trains legs. I agree with backlash. Someone who has a big squat knows how to train, knows how to diet, etc, and THOSE THINGS cause big arms, not big squat.

Just for reference, I know of a guy who's a PL-squat specialist. At 170, this guy squats 450 but has like 13.5 inch arms. Sure he trains upper body but it's not his focus.
 
casualbb said:
This debate is silly because nobody only trains legs. I agree with backlash. Someone who has a big squat knows how to train, knows how to diet, etc, and THOSE THINGS cause big arms, not big squat.

Just for reference, I know of a guy who's a PL-squat specialist. At 170, this guy squats 450 but has like 13.5 inch arms. Sure he trains upper body but it's not his focus.
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I love big squatters...they are nearly as crazy as big pullers.

I think that for a while I only did squats and deads...lol...I hated bench pressing so badly...lol. I'll see if I can find some pics of me with VERY big legs with a pretty small upper body. It will get a few laughs.

B True
 
casualbb said:
This debate is silly because nobody only trains legs. I agree with backlash. Someone who has a big squat knows how to train, knows how to diet, etc, and THOSE THINGS cause big arms, not big squat.

Just for reference, I know of a guy who's a PL-squat specialist. At 170, this guy squats 450 but has like 13.5 inch arms. Sure he trains upper body but it's not his focus.
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your right this is silly..there is always an exception ..no offense to back lash but if thats your arm in your avi you keep doing what your doing..its obviously working!!! :rolleyes:
 
Ouch, I felt that one from here

genetically typical people need to do our squats and deads, they might not directly give you big arms but they get you bigger and stronger all over. if only it were so easy to build big arms without getting a bigger overall body.. maybe if you're a meso on gear but this kid sure aint.

I think the one inch = 10 lbs rule only applies if you have no legs or back... I gain maybe one inch of arm size for every 25lbs, but I put on a lot more on my chest and legs...
 
Tweakle said:
Ouch, I felt that one from here

genetically typical people need to do our squats and deads, they might not directly give you big arms but they get you bigger and stronger all over. if only it were so easy to build big arms without getting a bigger overall body.. maybe if you're a meso on gear but this kid sure aint.

I think the one inch = 10 lbs rule only applies if you have no legs or back... I gain maybe one inch of arm size for every 25lbs, but I put on a lot more on my chest and legs...
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Maybe i was a little harsh..thats the point im trying to make..It would be extremely difficult to build big arms without getting the rest of your body bigger..looking good in your avi tweakle..that broccoli and tuna paid off!!!
 
I think everyone needs to remember that people respond differently to training...there is no one "right way"

2 people could be doing the exact same routine...eating the same food...and can get completely different gains...

Genetics play a large role....but who cares? If you are doing compound movements...doing squats and deadlifts....eating enough...etc ....YOU WILL GROW...

Why do we see people year in and year out in the gym training only chest and arms and not growing? Many reasons.....There is someone in my gym that does this..does half reps on bench with way too much weight....and guess what....curls 65lbers on hammer curls..not like freakish but you would think he has big forearms\bis? Think again...they belong on maybe one of the olsen twins...

A well balanced routine=well balanced growth
 
lol I'd love to see the form Mary-Kate uses on his hammer curls.. theres a dorky guy with no legs who does the same thing everytime I go to my gym, giving me 'death stares' while he does it. Too funny.

thanks beast :)
 
Tweakle said:
lol I'd love to see the form Mary-Kate uses on his hammer curls.. theres a dorky guy with no legs who does the same thing everytime I go to my gym, giving me 'death stares' while he does it. Too funny.

thanks beast :)
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Fucking A...this guy does the exact same thing to me....I think he has adonis complex or some shit because he is always in the mirror grooming himself and looking at how pretty he is.... :rainbow:

Ah...how I hate commercial gyms
 
Yeah my arm isn't big compared to a lot of people but it's grown almost 3 inches in the last two years. I'm also 6'3" so it won't look big until it's like 20 inches.

I also squat every week, sometimes twice a week.
 
Doesn't that whole idea of 10 lbs. = 1 inch make no sense? I mean...10 lbs. would add more thickness to the arms of a guy who's 5'3" than a guy who's 6', right?
 
Tom Treutlein said:
Doesn't that whole idea of 10 lbs. = 1 inch make no sense? I mean...10 lbs. would add more thickness to the arms of a guy who's 5'3" than a guy who's 6', right?
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dont take it too literally..of course 10lbs on someone shorter will look like a tremendous amount compared to someone taller..thats why ronnie just dwarfs people hes 6' and 300!!
 
resonator said:
Hey now, let's not get carried away here...Let's be honest, Leo has great genetics coupled with unrivaled intensity. And a personal chef. Legs like his are coveted by many but only attainable by a few.
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You got a problem with having a personal chef?


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(my left quad weighs more than leo's whole body)
 
ChefWide said:
You got a problem with having a personal chef?
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Yes, I don't have one :evil:

And Leo is truly an inspiration to us all. His video, "Leg Training Masters Volume Four, Enter the Leg Master" has brought my leg training to a completely different level. And although his legs are not the thickest, his incredibly lean knee caps are still the leanest in the business.
 
wnt2bBeast said:
Im not going to argue with you..Assuming 2 genetically identical people one squatting doing no arm work and some one doing a "well rounded arm routine"..the guy that squats will have MUCH bigger arms...dont believe me thats fine..take a look at some Powerlifters you think they devote entire workouts to arms? nope!! good luck trying to build big guns!!
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Terrible logic. Powerlifters may not devote entire workouts to arms, but neither should bodybuilders. Are you forgetting the fact that they do shit heavy BENCHES (triceps) and ROWS (biceps)? That benches are one of the three lifts? That many have 2 days of the week devoted to benching? Including lots of heavy close grip pressing, JM pressing, rope pushdowns etc. etc.? Don't forget bicep accessory work, along WITH the heavy compound rowing and pulling movements.

Oh yeah, don't forget incredible devotion to their sport enforced with big-eating. But, somehow, through all this, you think that the only difference is that they SQUAT?! LOL.

If anything, this evidence should show a bodybuilder that you don't NEED a day devoted to arms or even lots of direct isolation to build big arms.
 
Debaser said:
Terrible logic. Powerlifters may not devote entire workouts to arms, but neither should bodybuilders. Are you forgetting the fact that they do shit heavy BENCHES (triceps) and ROWS (biceps)? That benches are one of the three lifts? That many have 2 days of the week devoted to benching? Including lots of heavy close grip pressing, JM pressing, rope pushdowns etc. etc.? Don't forget bicep accessory work, along WITH the heavy compound rowing and pulling movements.

Oh yeah, don't forget incredible devotion to their sport enforced with big-eating. But, somehow, through all this, you think that the only difference is that they SQUAT?! LOL.

If anything, this evidence should show a bodybuilder that you don't NEED a day devoted to arms or even lots of direct isolation to build big arms.
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Well said Debaser
 
Debaser said:
Terrible logic. Powerlifters may not devote entire workouts to arms, but neither should bodybuilders. Are you forgetting the fact that they do shit heavy BENCHES (triceps) and ROWS (biceps)? That benches are one of the three lifts? That many have 2 days of the week devoted to benching? Including lots of heavy close grip pressing, JM pressing, rope pushdowns etc. etc.? Don't forget bicep accessory work, along WITH the heavy compound rowing and pulling movements.

Oh yeah, don't forget incredible devotion to their sport enforced with big-eating. But, somehow, through all this, you think that the only difference is that they SQUAT?! LOL.

If anything, this evidence should show a bodybuilder that you don't NEED a day devoted to arms or even lots of direct isolation to build big arms.
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:rolleyes: we're trying to make the same point i think!!
 
Is it a bad move to be scared of eating certain things in this period? I mean my goal is to gain the weight first right? So basically I want to know if I can eat anything and everything I see and not worrying about it being "junk" foods. Like Pizza, Custard Pie, etc. Because sometimes my house has no food other then this that bodybuilders stay away from. But if I don't eat this then theres pretty much nothing that I would eat and just starve.

Another thing I am wondering is... Is it bad to work out your entire upper body in one day? I was just thinking this because I was working out yesterday and I did biceps, triceps, shoulders, chest, deltoids.

I just want to get this straight... In order to get big muscle mass or just be thick in general.. You have to get fat right first then you cut down by doing cardio and all of that is this correct?

I will be 19 later this year, I just want to look my age because a lot of people think I'm like 13 or whatever because of my body size... Although a lot of people tell me that I have the height and I just need to follow through with everything. The fact of the matter is that I've been lifting weights every year since my Freshmen year in High School and I never did see results other then my bench press increasing and getting a little cut.

PS: Does anybody know how some people who are buff and built can drink every day and still be fit? Also I know some people who say they just lift weights and they don't even have a diet/excersize routine and they are big.
 
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PS: Does anybody know how some people who are buff and built can drink every day and still be fit? Also I know some people who say they just lift weights and they don't even have a diet/excersize routine and they are big.
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This is where you flash a neon sign above yourself that screams BEGINNER!!!! Once you do dedicate yourself to being a large individual and you do see gains and progress, you'll soon see that people who you once thought were big, built, ripped, and strong are really laughable. At 265lbs with a 36" waist, if i saw these guys who drink daily and look 'big' or the ones who don't workout, but say they do, and 'still look big', I bet you I would think they all look like squids. It is all perception, and at 140 fucking lbs you're gonna think EVERYONE looks big. It is like when you're 3 years old, you think you're mom is jacked, lol....it is the same thing.

For a little motivation, the first time I walked into a weightroom was when I was 13. It was the high school weightroom and I remember seeing a kid benching with 135 for a couple hardfought reps, thats a 45lb plate on each end of the bar, and I remember being awestruck and thinking this fucking guy was diesel. By the time I was a senior I was flat benching 365 for singles, and over the last few years I've done as much as 435. The last time I was screwing around after flat bench, I did 63 reps with 135 and stopped because I got bored. So, you get the point. Now if I saw some guy fighting for a few reps with 135, I would think he has a long way to go. My point is that it is gonna be frustrating seeing all these people who seemingly don't devote themselves to working out when you think they are buff, but when you DO start making progress, you'll see them for how me or anybody else serious about training sees them, and that is a twerp.

On to your diet question. It is all relavtive to your goals. You don't necessarily have to get "fat". You DO have to feed your body enough to not only fuel hard workouts, but to foster growth. At a young age with a fast metabolism it is a waste of time to nitpick over every little thing you put in your mouth. I am assuming you're an average, healthy kid with no medical conditions that would restrict your diet. Take advantage of your naturally high hormone levels at this age and your high metabolism. If you follow the eat everything in sight approach your dinner should NOT be custard pie, but if you eat a dinner with plenty of protein, carbs, and good fats, you can have plenty of custard pie for dessert. Also, if you have a part-time job or anything, buy your own groceries. Save the money most people your age blow on booze, cigarettes, and other shit and buy food.

On a side note, you need to realize that when a bodybuilder, a powerlifter,a strength athlete, or any athlete in general calls themselves fat, they mean "fat for them" or 'fatter than they wanna be or should be or have been'. they don't mean fat compared to the average American slob. I am 265lbs at 5'11", I have a 36' waist, and I don't have a 6 pack (nor do I want one), I am not ripped, and I always joke around and refer to myself as fat. I have been called 'ripped' by the average person more times than I can count. So, do you see what I mean when I tell you people on this board are gonna tell you to eat everything and get fat that they don't literally mean "fat" like most average people. lol.

The post is lengthy, but I hope I helped you. this is all stuff you learn along the road, but I hope I enlightened you, lol....
 
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Bro, for the next month, put down the video game controller, take a break from the partying, and READ everything you can about lifting. I am far from a pro by any means, but the only way to learn is research!!!! You cant get all the awnsers just asking, take your time and research everything you can, the internet is free, so it wont even cost you a thing, just some time.
 
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