Help with gyno protocol( yes another one -_-) pls read

[Avacado7]

Hey guys, I know this probably the billionth thread requesting help on this but after doing research and reaching out to people, I need some input ASAP.

History: last year (2013) ran a 16 week cycle which consisted of 10 weeks of tren and 8 week jump start of dbol, along with test Prop transition to test E, moderately dosed. While on for about 6 weeks a ran a bit of prami, I believe .5 before bed to help with libido issues of tren. It helped with that and gyno prevention but I wasn't thinking so I stopped it after tren finished off. After a month and a half of being off cycle completely and completing Clomid+hcgenerate PCT, I started to see the gyno symptoms. Ordered AR-R Letro, ran if for 3 weeks, lumps went down, and stupidly I stopped. Little did I know about rebound. Anyways, I started letro back up and have been at 2.5mg for about 4 weeks.. No really improvement, size and hardness of lump definitely stopped worsening, still some soreness, I don't know if it's from me over touching or overthinking it. I know for sure my gyno was prompted from Tren and dbol, as I have used test, mast, eq and never had issues with gyno.


After reading around I tried to add one dose of 20mg nolva in the morning with my letro two days ago... That night I noticed a drastic change in my nipple shape color and size... For the first time ever I noticed very little excretion of liquid from both nipples!!! -__- I was baffled and shock (disappointed) to say the least. Estro gyno to prolactin due to one dose of nolva?? I need help building out a protocol. I have been diligently dieting and doing cardio with my training to reduce body fat.

I have nolva, Forma, prami, hcgenerate and another bottle of letro on hand.

Could some please help me get on the right track? I am really seeing the toll of 2.5mg letro in regards to my mood mostly. I really appreciate you guys chiming in on this for the billionth time.

Stats:
Age: 25
Height: 5'10
Weight: 230lb
Bf: 16%


Thank you.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Yikes! Sounds like a nightmare bro, and 8 weeks of dbol is more than a "jump start" sounds downright abusive. What was your dosage of the bol and tren?

 

[Jbranken]

For those who say nolva doesn't increase PR expression, there you go. He didnt start lactating until he started the nolva.

If you weren't experiencing horrible sides from prami during your cycle, it was probably fake. It's really nasty stuff. So, get some legit Cabaser to run with letrozole and drop the nolva. Run caber at 1mg eod for a week, then drop to .5mg e3d and eventually come off when prolactin is back in range. Keep running your letro at 2.5mg

 

[Avacado7]

Thanks Mr. Chicago.. I know. It was my first time using Dbol.. to be honest I think it was more like 6 weeks.

Dosing was as follows:

Dbol: 25mg am, 25mg pm..
Tren Enanthate 300mg for 5 wks switched to Tren Ace 100mg EOD for another 5 wks.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

What made you switch from E to A? I would think you'd have one hell of a build up of tren in your system, no wonder you had issues but I honestly couldn't tell you what the best protocol at this point is. Live and learn I guess and I'm sure someone will chime in with more help bro good luck.

 

[Avacado7]

For those who say nolva doesn't increase PR expression, there you go. He didnt start lactating until he started the nolva.

If you weren't experiencing horrible sides from prami during your cycle, it was probably fake. It's really nasty stuff. So, get some legit Cabaser to run with letrozole and drop the nolva. Run caber at 1mg eod for a week, then drop to .5mg e3d and eventually come off when prolactin is back in range. Keep running your letro at 2.5mg

Jbranken, Thank you for the response and input man I really appreciate it. I definitely felt the prami sides while on lol.. super groggy in the morning. It would knock me out cold at night. Say I cant get caber and want to use the prami, could you help me dose it along with your letro dosing?? thank you!

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Also, be careful with that letro bro, that's all I know to say, how long have you been at that dose?

 

[Avacado7]

Also, be careful with that letro bro, that's all I know to say, how long have you been at that dose?

Thanks... I am pretty used to the letro at 2.5mg for little over 4 weeks. I know this stuff works ive used it before, its just this time around I supplementing Caber/prami is needed.

 

[Jbranken]

Jbranken, Thank you for the response and input man I really appreciate it. I definitely felt the prami sides while on lol.. super groggy in the morning. It would knock me out cold at night. Say I cant get caber and want to use the prami, could you help me dose it along with your letro dosing?? thank you!

Prami kept me up all night

Anyway, just double your prami maintenance dosage and run it eod for a week, then drop it to e3d at maintenance, then come off

 

[Avacado7]

Prami kept me up all night

Anyway, just double your prami maintenance dosage and run it eod for a week, then drop it to e3d at maintenance, then come off

Right on, will do. Does the prami/caber actually aid in removing the gyno? or is that all letro? should I run any Forma?

Live and learn..