Help with Cycle

[mmaboy]

Whatsup Bros

I want to do a short cycle...or shorter cycle I should say. Can some of you guys give a recommendation with what I have available that will give me a quicker recovery with proper pct ,etc. Here's what I got:

16cc Test E 300mg/cc
20cc Test P 100mg/cc
10cc EQ 200 " "
10cc Mast. 100 " "
25cc Primo 100 " "
20cc Winny 100 " "
20cc Fina 100 " "

PCT
HCG 2X5000 iu's
30 ml Clomid 50mg
30 ml Clen 200mcg/ml

Sustaine Alpha
Toco 8
Dermacrine
Phyto

I want to do no more than an 8 week cycle, 6 if anyone thinks it's possible to get any lean gains (don't ask I have my reasons ). I'm already lean and like to keep it that way. I would think the quicker acting AAS would be ideal as opposed to the longer acting AAS for what I'm trying to achieve.
Also should I add anything to my pct?


Thanks guys....I'll be waiting for some feedback.


mmaboy

 

[GUARDIAN]

Well if short is what u want then I would use the test prop & winny. I might even want to throw in the primo. I personally like to run it 12 weeks but I had success with 8 weeks once (that was all I could afford at the time ).

Since u dont give your cycle history I will make the test dose moderate. You can adjust.

Week 1-8: Test/P 100mg eod
Week 1-8: Primo 300mg ew
Week 2-8: Winstrol 50mg ed

On such a short cycle I wouldn't run the hcg until pct. Start pct 1 week after your last shot (though technically the primo will be lingering around a little longer, u could wait 2 weeks). 500IU's e4d until 5000IU's are gone, this will be about a month. 50mg clomid ed for 4 weeks. I dont have any input on the OTC pct stuff u got.

You could also run the clen during pct and perhaps a little longer but that depends on your situation (u say u have a reason for wanting a short cycle so this may interfere).

There are so many possibilities with what u have but i would stay away from the fina (cant stand tren - personal opinion). i wouldnt run the mast & the primo at the same time. save the test/e & EQ for longer cycles.

 

[mmaboy]

Thanks bro for the feedback. I have done many cycles over the years but have always done things different and want to try something different to see how my body responds as well as recovery time. And I agree with the Fina, it's nasty stuff but just wanted to include it in what I have due to the fact everyone has different opinions about varios AAS and pct regimen.

mmaboy

Well if short is what u want then I would use the test prop & winny. I might even want to throw in the primo. I personally like to run it 12 weeks but I had success with 8 weeks once (that was all I could afford at the time ).

Since u dont give your cycle history I will make the test dose moderate. You can adjust.

Week 1-8: Test/P 100mg eod
Week 1-8: Primo 300mg ew
Week 2-8: Winstrol 50mg ed

On such a short cycle I wouldn't run the hcg until pct. Start pct 1 week after your last shot (though technically the primo will be lingering around a little longer, u could wait 2 weeks). 500IU's e4d until 5000IU's are gone, this will be about a month. 50mg clomid ed for 4 weeks. I dont have any input on the OTC pct stuff u got.

You could also run the clen during pct and perhaps a little longer but that depends on your situation (u say u have a reason for wanting a short cycle so this may interfere).

There are so many possibilities with what u have but i would stay away from the fina (cant stand tren - personal opinion). i wouldnt run the mast & the primo at the same time. save the test/e & EQ for longer cycles.

 

[jumpmaster82]

if your looking for a short cycle go with test prop like 8 said bro

 

[Nelson Montana]

It's debatable whether prop is preferable. It's a common misconception that it works faster but it just works SHORTER. It does have a slightly better affinity for receptors over cyp though. 8and 20's suggestion is good.

I prefer 6-8 weeks cycles. Anything more is too damaging. 2 weeks cycles are shit. (Don't listen to Bill Roberts.) I also would NOT do fina or clomid or clen. But that's me. I'd use UNLEASHED, HCG, POST CYCLE, Sustain and adex for the PCT. Anything more is redundant and overkill.

 

[boyer]

Hey your name says mma boy. If you do train mma, especially jujitsu, I wouldn't be using winstrol. Just too much chance of injury. Prop is a good suggestion and I think theirs a reason for all the nandralone positive tests. It lubes joints helping fighters train while injured. I would go with prop/npp. Var is also a good choice.

 

[mmaboy]

Thanks for the advice. So no winny...right?

Hey your name says mma boy. If you do train mma, especially jujitsu, I wouldn't be using winstrol. Just too much chance of injury. Prop is a good suggestion and I think theirs a reason for all the nandralone positive tests. It lubes joints helping fighters train while injured. I would go with prop/npp. Var is also a good choice.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Thanks for the advice. So no winny...right?

didnt catch that u r an mma fighter. it can be hell on the joints for some. i have never had any problems with this or injury but i dont train as mma either. i would be cautious with it.

 

[Ross]

It's debatable whether prop is preferable. It's a common misconception that it works faster but it just works SHORTER. It does have a slightly better affinity for receptors over cyp though. 8and 20's suggestion is good.

I prefer 6-8 weeks cycles. Anything more is too damaging. 2 weeks cycles are shit. (Don't listen to Bill Roberts.) I also would NOT do fina or clomid or clen. But that's me. I'd use UNLEASHED, HCG, POST CYCLE, Sustain and adex for the PCT. Anything more is redundant and overkill.

I disagree, I find short cycles much less effective for any purpose.

-Short 6-8 week cycles are sometimes suitable for a NOVICE cutting cycle, but the serious bodybuilder will require MUCH more time in order to lose the weight PROPERLY. If you want to MAXIMIZE muscle and strength preservation, you will require approximately 8-12 weeks in order to do so properly, without losing weight too QUCKLY.

-For BULKING cycles in particular, 6-8 weeks is substantially less than ideal. If you want to put on serious muscle mass, you should be running 10-16 weekers, *sometimes bridging and/or cruising depending on your individual level of development.

If you are trying to preserve or even BUILD muscle mass while cutting, I would suggest:

Weeks 1-6: Turinabol (Jumpstarter)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs (Base)
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 100mgs EOD (Secondary Anabolic)
Weeks 8-12: Injectable Winstrol, 50mgs EOD (Finisher)

 

[boyer]

Thanks for the advice. So no winny...right?

No it wreaks havoc on your joints, which is terrible for training.