Trying to set up a Test C cycle. I've done a few cycles of oral steroids, anavar (which was prob dbol because I have my doubts it was legit), winny, and Helladrol and one of rs-transaderm which, was eh... very light. Tended to just make me feel anx more then any gains else. Have used Mk-2866 and Gw-501516... Like them but want to keep them for use in between cycles. Pretty much, orals are fun, but I tend to just want more. Recently a lot of guys in the gym have been running various things from Test E, C, P, Tren, deca, dbol etc. I have talk with pretty much everyone of them and all have told me I should try out "the real deal" and Ill never look back to ph/ds or any oral ever again afterwards. I've seen the tranformations take place and I want the same and feel Im ready to try it out.
Stats: 186lbs 10.4% bf (started at 150lb 3 years ago)
Lifting religously for 3 years and running ph/ds/orals off and on for 2yrs.
Goal: To see what I can achieve. I want to be 200lbs by fall and get down to 7% Bf.
My Proposed 12-15wk Cycle:
Test Cyp- 400-500mg EW taken split 2 times a week Monday and Thursday (so 200mg or 250mg per injection)
Arimidex if gyno, bloat or any other sides occur.
Hcgenerate- 5 caps ED
Formastanzol- 5-7 pumps 2 times ED
N2Guard- 7 caps ED
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED
Post Cycle:
Liquid Torem- 120/90/60/30
Formastanzol- 5 pumps reduced to 3 pumps 2 times ED
Post Cycle- as recommended
Unleashed- as recommended
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED
Multi-vit- as recommended
No2- Yoked or equal to it
Creatine- any type, usually like to try new types or a combination of the 3 out there.
Mk-2866- 12.5mg ED
Questions and reasoning:
My source is telling me that he just runs Test C 500mg split 2 times EW for 15 wks and then uses Arimidex if gyno, bloat etc. occurs during cycle @ .25mg-.5mg EOD and he also just uses Arimidex for his pct at .25mg- .5mg EOD. Thats it.
PCT: To me, I dont think that is quite enough. Reason Im hear asking. I have done a little research on using Arimidex only for PCT and it has been done but I also read of possible rebound. I don't want that and want the smoothest cycle I can get. I don't want to feel shutdown or any of the sides that tend to come with that (anx, depression, lack of motivation and low libido, F*** that), been there, done that. So PCT is of most importance to me and I strive to put the most I can into it to keep that "on" feeling and keep my gains. Lets face it.. normal, just isn't fun either haha.
I added Formastanzol, Post cycle, and Unleashed to my pct to obviously bring me back to normal but I don't know if they will be enough. (has always for other cycles, but I feel this is a little more intense) I know its said to be by some but I just don't know. I added Torem for the reduced sides over Clomid or Nolva. And I'll have Arimidex that I can always resort to if it turns out that that will suffice. Too much? Help here please.
Mk is in there because I love it and it works great to help retain gains and keep that gooood feeling.
CYCLE: I included Hcgenerate on cycle to try and keep myself from shutting down as much as possible. I realize that this may not be enough (was for other oral cycles though). Would you recommend getting real Hcg instead? I would inject Sub-q as opposed to IM and would dose at 500iu 2 times a week for last 4 weeks while on cycle (depending on if my balls have shrank that bad or not). Matter-a-fact Id inject as soon as I see signs of atrophy but I have also read of desensitising of the Leydig Cells and I deff dont want any complications here so any help is much appreciated!
I included Formastanzol as a light AI to hopefully keep any sides in check and not have to resort to Arimidex. I have never run anything that aromatized so this will be new to me. I do know that estrogenic sides basically just suck to have so what do you think about this? strong enough or too week?
The Krill oil and N2guard, well we all know why they are there. Just good to have for added support on any cycle.
Ok, thats it for now. Please let loose and tell me what you think. My stuff is on the way and I'm way excited to try this out!
ps. diet is clean and from Biohazardmass.com. Im on the GetBIGstayLean diet. Basically its 7 meals a day with a ton of chicken, Sirloin for dinner every night, a weight gainer 2 times ed. rice, lots of good veggies, coconut oil and olive oil. Its a decent diet and one that I use for every cycle. But because it was "sold to me" I don't know if I can post it.
Stats: 186lbs 10.4% bf (started at 150lb 3 years ago)
Lifting religously for 3 years and running ph/ds/orals off and on for 2yrs.
Goal: To see what I can achieve. I want to be 200lbs by fall and get down to 7% Bf.
My Proposed 12-15wk Cycle:
Test Cyp- 400-500mg EW taken split 2 times a week Monday and Thursday (so 200mg or 250mg per injection)
Arimidex if gyno, bloat or any other sides occur.
Hcgenerate- 5 caps ED
Formastanzol- 5-7 pumps 2 times ED
N2Guard- 7 caps ED
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED
Post Cycle:
Liquid Torem- 120/90/60/30
Formastanzol- 5 pumps reduced to 3 pumps 2 times ED
Post Cycle- as recommended
Unleashed- as recommended
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED
Multi-vit- as recommended
No2- Yoked or equal to it
Creatine- any type, usually like to try new types or a combination of the 3 out there.
Mk-2866- 12.5mg ED
Questions and reasoning:
My source is telling me that he just runs Test C 500mg split 2 times EW for 15 wks and then uses Arimidex if gyno, bloat etc. occurs during cycle @ .25mg-.5mg EOD and he also just uses Arimidex for his pct at .25mg- .5mg EOD. Thats it.
PCT: To me, I dont think that is quite enough. Reason Im hear asking. I have done a little research on using Arimidex only for PCT and it has been done but I also read of possible rebound. I don't want that and want the smoothest cycle I can get. I don't want to feel shutdown or any of the sides that tend to come with that (anx, depression, lack of motivation and low libido, F*** that), been there, done that. So PCT is of most importance to me and I strive to put the most I can into it to keep that "on" feeling and keep my gains. Lets face it.. normal, just isn't fun either haha.
I added Formastanzol, Post cycle, and Unleashed to my pct to obviously bring me back to normal but I don't know if they will be enough. (has always for other cycles, but I feel this is a little more intense) I know its said to be by some but I just don't know. I added Torem for the reduced sides over Clomid or Nolva. And I'll have Arimidex that I can always resort to if it turns out that that will suffice. Too much? Help here please.
Mk is in there because I love it and it works great to help retain gains and keep that gooood feeling.
CYCLE: I included Hcgenerate on cycle to try and keep myself from shutting down as much as possible. I realize that this may not be enough (was for other oral cycles though). Would you recommend getting real Hcg instead? I would inject Sub-q as opposed to IM and would dose at 500iu 2 times a week for last 4 weeks while on cycle (depending on if my balls have shrank that bad or not). Matter-a-fact Id inject as soon as I see signs of atrophy but I have also read of desensitising of the Leydig Cells and I deff dont want any complications here so any help is much appreciated!
I included Formastanzol as a light AI to hopefully keep any sides in check and not have to resort to Arimidex. I have never run anything that aromatized so this will be new to me. I do know that estrogenic sides basically just suck to have so what do you think about this? strong enough or too week?
The Krill oil and N2guard, well we all know why they are there. Just good to have for added support on any cycle.
Ok, thats it for now. Please let loose and tell me what you think. My stuff is on the way and I'm way excited to try this out!
ps. diet is clean and from Biohazardmass.com. Im on the GetBIGstayLean diet. Basically its 7 meals a day with a ton of chicken, Sirloin for dinner every night, a weight gainer 2 times ed. rice, lots of good veggies, coconut oil and olive oil. Its a decent diet and one that I use for every cycle. But because it was "sold to me" I don't know if I can post it.