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HELP....contest 9 weeks out

nvrenuff

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Hey guys this is my first post, I could really use your knowledge. I have a competition coming up in 9 weeks and ive recently added my diet and cardio to my lifting. I have competed once before at 6'0" 175 lbs 5% BF all natural. It wasnt easy. I wanna do it again only this time ive decided to join the dark side. I havent ever done a cycle before. Right now im 192 lbs 11% BF. I have read the forums and the book anabolics 2005 and I cant figure out what to do. I dont want to get huge, not that I really have time to, but i dont want it to be obvious that i got on the juice. I would love to compete at about 4% BF around 185-190 lbs. I was thinking of stacking Tren with either anavar, primo, or winny. But after reading some stuff on here there has been alot of advice given to first timers to only use Test their first cycle. I have a bottle of liquidclen coming in the mail from AG guys right now. I would like to have this be as side effect free as possible. I appreciate your help...thanks guys.
 
anabolics is nothing to rush into but if you want an edge without being obvious go with the anavar. Stay away from the harder stuff until you have more knowledge.
 
da_boss said:
anabolics is nothing to rush into but if you want an edge without being obvious go with the anavar. Stay away from the harder stuff until you have more knowledge.

I agree, learn your body and how it responds first. Anavar or T-Bol would be good and safe this close to a show. Any water gained will drop if you stop the orals 1-2 days before the show.
 
start this now:
Test enanth at 250 mg a wk
anavar at 40 mg a wk
this combo will help you cut and mantain ur muscle mass
21 days prior show start drinking a gal of water a day, then 10 days prior increase it to 1 1/2 gal... then 3 days prior, cut water by half, one day prior cut water to a half again, the night before the event take your lasix at 20 mg, in the morning take one extra 10 mg of lasix if needed (supplement with potasium from bananas or potasium pill) 2 days prior cut the salt to the least you can take.
you'll be good to go.
 
nvrenuff said:
Hey guys this is my first post, I could really use your knowledge. I have a competition coming up in 9 weeks and ive recently added my diet and cardio to my lifting. I have competed once before at 6'0" 175 lbs 5% BF all natural. It wasnt easy. I wanna do it again only this time ive decided to join the dark side. I havent ever done a cycle before. Right now im 192 lbs 11% BF. I have read the forums and the book anabolics 2005 and I cant figure out what to do. I dont want to get huge, not that I really have time to, but i dont want it to be obvious that i got on the juice. I would love to compete at about 4% BF around 185-190 lbs. I was thinking of stacking Tren with either anavar, primo, or winny. But after reading some stuff on here there has been alot of advice given to first timers to only use Test their first cycle. I have a bottle of liquidclen coming in the mail from AG guys right now. I would like to have this be as side effect free as possible. I appreciate your help...thanks guys.

While it's true test is a great beginner cycle your are getting ready for a show so you need low to non aromatizing stuff. If you uses test go with Prop. You can do Prop with Tren Ace EOD and at the 4-5 week out mark start using Aromasin or Arimedex, you can get liquid from AG, to help peel the water off. Let's get RADAR, needsize, or Makavelli in here with some opinions since they all know thier stuff on this subject.
 
my first cycle i started 9weeks out from a bbshow to man i feel ya.. i was 511 205 and 10%natural, then i decided scew it...ill join the juice side, i wouldnt recomend any test asides prop or susp..*susp maybe week 2from comp just to harden you up... but tren would do that alot better* a suggestion would be get your PCT together...nolva clomid, and arimidex will really dry you out last week up to the show...find some aldactone*diretic* and do about 65mg for 3-4days prior to the show*really will dry you out...* but as for the cycle goes... 9 weeks huh... i would get some test prop, parobolan(tren), primo or anavar, and of course winny...
week9-6 test prop, 50mg every other day, winny 50mg/day
week7-1 parobolan/primo, 100mg of each every 3rd day...(primo injects)
week3-1 anavar30mg/day
week1(one week from show date) start your arimidex, aldactone3-4days before..*be careful w/aldactone though, it might be potassium sparing diretic, but its not and adrogen sparing one! if you use to much youll show up flat..)
also get some t3and stack it w/clen, 2weeks on 2weeks off is how you use clen, get some ECA stacks for when your not using clen to burn fat, do your cardio and keep your protien intake high and good luck man...
 
PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch said:
start this now:
Test enanth at 250 mg a wk
anavar at 40 mg a wk
this combo will help you cut and mantain ur muscle mass
21 days prior show start drinking a gal of water a day, then 10 days prior increase it to 1 1/2 gal... then 3 days prior, cut water by half, one day prior cut water to a half again, the night before the event take your lasix at 20 mg, in the morning take one extra 10 mg of lasix if needed (supplement with potasium from bananas or potasium pill) 2 days prior cut the salt to the least you can take.
you'll be good to go.

Thanks so much I really appreciate it. I did exactly wut you said about the water and salt for my last comp but without any diuretics. If i wanted a little more do you think i could bump up the anavar to 80mg/wk? I dont want to doubt your advice, but I read about Test E in anabolics 2005 again and it sounds really scary to me. I dont want any chance of gyno, and I think i am pretty prone to acne and backne( im basing this on the fact that i noticed it when taking 1-AD androstenediol) It seems like Tren would be as potent of an anabolic with no chance of gyno at least during the cycle and sounds like it would harden me up. Also I am wondering about PCT....this doesnt sound like a very dangerous cycle but I will for sure have Nolvadex for PCT...or would arimidex be better? What about HCG....maybe 2000 I.U. 1 week after cycle, then 1500 I.U. 4 days later, and then one more 1500 I.U. 4 days after that. sorry for the length....so much to learn...i dont wanna screw up. thanks!
 
I would hold off on the show. Learn about AAS and do it right. That way you'll do the best you can. Right now you're trying to throw something together at the last minute and hope for the best. The only way hope will do anything for you is if you've put in the work required to get the result.
 
PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch said:
start this now:
Test enanth at 250 mg a wk
anavar at 40 mg a wk
this combo will help you cut and mantain ur muscle mass
21 days prior show start drinking a gal of water a day, then 10 days prior increase it to 1 1/2 gal... then 3 days prior, cut water by half, one day prior cut water to a half again, the night before the event take your lasix at 20 mg, in the morning take one extra 10 mg of lasix if needed (supplement with potasium from bananas or potasium pill) 2 days prior cut the salt to the least you can take.
you'll be good to go.

gman....wow..im sure thats top notch advice, but I dont wanna get that detailed this time. I want to try and keep it a little more simple....no more than 2 different things in my stack. i think its best to learn how my body reacts to things and I think I would confuse me trying all that. money is a consideration too. ill write down that menu and save it, might wanna do it next time. I appreciate your help.
 
Makavelli said:
I would hold off on the show. Learn about AAS and do it right. That way you'll do the best you can. Right now you're trying to throw something together at the last minute and hope for the best. The only way hope will do anything for you is if you've put in the work required to get the result.
I know what yer saying, and yer probably right but i really wanna do it. thats me in my avatar from my last comp. i started 7 weeks out at 187lbs....and in that pic im 175lbs and that was naturally....now i have 9 weeks with the addition of AAS and clen/ECA alternated every 2 weeks im sure to look alot better than i did last time and i was pretty happy with the results last time...but i have to better it this time. Im not looking to win it. just to better myself from last time.
 
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