Help and advise with first cycle please

[nickfurlo]

I'm 29 years old, weight appx 194 lbs. I've been lifting on and off for about 7 years now but this is my first cycle. I started the cycle 2 weeks ago. I'm using Testosterone enanthate and Winstrol (oil based) I got from a friend of mine that is a trainer and cycles regularly. The plan he recommended was to:

Testosterone Inject 250mg (1cc)of every 4 days (weeks 1-6)
Winstrol inject 100mg (1cc)every 3-4 days (weeks 2-8)
Nolvadex (liquid) 20mg a day starting on the 4th week and continue for 8 weeks

is that a good plan to follow? I know Winstrol is recommended every day or every other day. Also should I also think about using clomid and hcg or is the nolvadex enough?

 

[therugger]

I'm 29 years old, weight appx 194 lbs. I've been lifting on and off for about 7 years now but this is my first cycle. I started the cycle 2 weeks ago. I'm using Testosterone enanthate and Winstrol (oil based) I got from a friend of mine that is a trainer and cycles regularly. The plan he recommended was to:

Testosterone Inject 250mg (1cc)of every 4 days (weeks 1-6)
Winstrol inject 100mg (1cc)every 3-4 days (weeks 2-8)
Nolvadex (liquid) 20mg a day starting on the 4th week and continue for 8 weeks

is that a good plan to follow? I know Winstrol is recommended every day or every other day. Also should I also think about using clomid and hcg or is the nolvadex enough?

Not really, or at all honestly. Test Enth is a long ester that needs to be ran for at least 10 weeks in my opinion to get the results you would expect from it, but the Test Enth dose is good 500mg a week is good. The winny is just a waste like that, it needs to be at a minimum of 100mg every other day, your dose is too low and not often enough for even semiconsistent blood levels. If ya don't have enough winny for that just extend out the test for 10 or 12 weeks alone and you will be happy with the results that way. Good luck bro!

 

[nickfurlo]

Thank you so much for the info, what you said makes a lot of sense. I will switch the winny to every other day. Can you tell me if the Nolvadex alone would be okay at that dose and time frame for PCT? Also if just Milk Thistle is enough to maintain a healthy liver or if I need to add fish oil or something else? Thanks

 

[therugger]

I won't run a cycle unless I have HCG for the end of the cycle to get me a jump start before PCT. I would definately advise you to that as well. Also there are some pct supps people are having alot of luck with here so I will let them chime in on that, but PCT is the most important part of your cycle as it decides whether you will be able to maintain the muscle mass you have added during cycle so you want to make sure you give your self every chance to recover.

 

[Snick60]

You really don't need anything for ur liver cause ur taking injectables not orals but it never hurts to take milk thistle anyways