Help! 24 years old, High Prolactin, Low Testosterone

[jug_head_man]

Hello, I am in need of insight. I am currently 24 years old and did my first cycle 3 years ago when I was 21. I took all the necessary precautions and had a great base from powerlifting. I hit a final weight gain of 215 total lbs at 5'10''. Here was my cycle:

12 week cycle
Week1: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week2: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week3: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week4: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week5-12: 500mg Test E
Week15-18: Clomid - 100/50/50/50. Nolva - 40/20/20/20

Had L-dex on hand
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3 years passed and I had no issues, I was/ am a professional fitness model. I traveled Europe for 6 months and came back and was a vegetarian for 1 year. I exercise 4 times a week, throw in cardio, have a near perfect diet and probably 9-11% bf year round. I am currently 180lbs and fairly shredded. I started a finance position 10 months ago and absolutely hate it. I became depressed and lifting became my life. 4-5 months ago I started feeling extremely tired, had no sexual desire, and overall fatigued. At the time I was on creatine because I have been all natural for years after my cycle use. I decided to get some lab work done and found out my testosterone was that of a 80 year old and prolactin levels of a woman in her 1st trimester. I was/ am crushed at this point and dont know what to do. I have been seeing an endo and have another appointment next week. I dont want to go on permanent hormone replacement therapy. I have slightly puffy nipples (Or so I think, it could be in my head but I pay extremely close attention to my body, They feel sensitive). I usually have a cheat meal on weekends and drink occasionally ( Heavy drinking past 2 weekends because of my birthday). If I could get any advice on my next steps I would very grateful

I am still very strong although I notice my fatigue at the gym, I am maintaining my muscle mass/ weight. I have sex regularly with my gf but can only last about twice back to back in one night. It would be a test for me to try 3x in one night. I used to finish 4-5 in one night...

I sleep at least 7 hours a night and have had brain fog ever since this diagnoses

Here are blood test results thusfar:

May 17 (8:10 am)
Testosterone, Free 6.4
Standard Range 5.0 - 40.0pg/mL
Testosterone, Total 357.0
Standard Range 332 - 896ng/dL

Prolactin 16.0ng/mL Prolactin
Reference Ranges are as follows:
Male: 3.7-17.9 ng/mL

Insulin-Like Growth Factor 1 (IGF1) 267
ARUP Standard Range 116 - 358ng/mL

Cortisol 14.4ug/dL
Cortisol Reference Range:
Before 10am: 4.46-22.7
After 5pm: 1.7-14.1

April 12 (8 am)

Testosterone, Free 10.4
Standard Range 5.0 - 40.0pg/mL
Testosterone, Total 425.0
Standard Range 332 - 896ng/dL

Luteinizing Hormone (LH)3.4mIU/mL LH
Reference Ranges are as follows:
Female Ovulating:
Follicular phase: 2.58-12.1 mIU/mL
Peak : 27.3-96.9 mIU/mL
Luteal phase : 0.833-15.5 mIU/mL
Postmenopausal : 13.1-86.5 mIU/mL

Prolactin 22.9ng/mL Prolactin
Reference Ranges are as follows:
Male: 3.7-17.9 ng/mL
Normal Female(non-pregnant): 3.0-18.6 ng/mL

Free Thyroxine (FT4)1.20
Standard Range 0.78 - 2.19ng/dL

Angiotensin Converting Enzyme (ACE)26
Standard Range 4 - 60U/L

Ferritin 51.7
Standard Range 17.9 - 464.0ng/mL

Estradiol 13.4pg/mL Estradiol
Reference Ranges are as follows:
Male: 5.37-65.9 pg/mL
Female Ovulating:
Follicular phase: 26.6-161 pg/mL
Peak : 187-382 pg/mL
Luteal phase : 32.7-201 pg/mL
Postmenopausal : 5.37-38.4 pg/mL

April 6 (9 am)

Metabolic Plan
Sodium 138 Standard Range 136 - 145 mmol/L
Potassium 3.9 Standard Range 3.6 - 5.0 mmol/L
Chloride 100 Standard Range 98 - 107 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide Standard Range 29H22 - 28 mmol/L
BUN 21 Standard Range 6 - 20 mg/dL
Creatinine 1.14 Standard Range 0.70 - 1.30 mg/dL
Glucose77 Standard Range 74 - 100 mg/dL
Calcium9.5 Standard Range 8.6 - 10.3 mg/dL
Total Protein7.5 Standard Range 6.0 - 8.3 gm/dL
Albumin4.8 Standard Range 3.5 - 5.0 gm/dL
SGPT/ALT 31 Standard Range 10 - 35 U/L
SGOT/AST37 Standard Range 14 - 50 U/L
Alkaline Phosphatase48 L Standard Range 53 - 128 U/L
Total Bilirubin0.8 Standard Range 0.3 - 1.2 mg/dL
Fasting?12
Est GFR not Afr-Am>60 >=60 mL/min

Testosterone 284 Standard Range 241 - 827 ng/dL

TSH2.487 Standard Range 0.300 - 4.000 mU/l

Vit D3 25-Hydroxy37 ng/mL
Vit D2 25-Hydroxy<1 ng/mL
Vit D Total 25-Hydroxy37 32 - 100 ng/m
0-14 ng/mL = Severely deficient
15-31 ng/mL = Mildly deficient
32-100 ng/mL = Optimal
>100 ng/mL = Consider toxicity

Lipid Profile
Cholesterol126 Standard Range 108 - 199 mg/dL
Triglyceride46 Standard Range 26 - 149 mg/dL
HDL45 Standard Range 40 - 125 mg/dL
Chol/HDL Ratio2.8 Standard Range 0.0 - 5.0
LDL72 Standard Range 0 - 99 mg/dL

Vitamin B-12 - 756 Standard Range 180 - 914 pg/mL

 

[dylangemelli]

Hello, I am in need of insight. I am currently 24 years old and did my first cycle 3 years ago when I was 21. I took all the necessary precautions and had a great base from powerlifting. I hit a final weight gain of 215 total lbs at 5'10''. Here was my cycle:

12 week cycle
Week1: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week2: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week3: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week4: 500mg Test E, 40mg Dbol
Week5-12: 500mg Test E
Week15-18: Clomid - 100/50/50/50. Nolva - 40/20/20/20

Had L-dex on hand​

3 years passed and I had no issues, I was/ am a professional fitness model. I traveled Europe for 6 months and came back and was a vegetarian for 1 year. I exercise 4 times a week, throw in cardio, have a near perfect diet and probably 9-11% bf year round. I am currently 180lbs and fairly shredded. I started a finance position 10 months ago and absolutely hate it. I became depressed and lifting became my life. 4-5 months ago I started feeling extremely tired, had no sexual desire, and overall fatigued. At the time I was on creatine because I have been all natural for years after my cycle use. I decided to get some lab work done and found out my testosterone was that of a 80 year old and prolactin levels of a woman in her 1st trimester. I was/ am crushed at this point and dont know what to do. I have been seeing an endo and have another appointment next week. I dont want to go on permanent hormone replacement therapy. I have slightly puffy nipples (Or so I think, it could be in my head but I pay extremely close attention to my body, They feel sensitive). I usually have a cheat meal on weekends and drink occasionally ( Heavy drinking past 2 weekends because of my birthday). If I could get any advice on my next steps I would very grateful

I am still very strong although I notice my fatigue at the gym, I am maintaining my muscle mass/ weight. I have sex regularly with my gf but can only last about twice back to back in one night. It would be a test for me to try 3x in one night. I used to finish 4-5 in one night...

Here are blood test results thusfar:

May 17 (8:10 am)
Testosterone, Free 6.4
Standard Range 5.0 - 40.0pg/mL
Testosterone, Total 357.0
Standard Range 332 - 896ng/dL

Prolactin 16.0ng/mL Prolactin
Reference Ranges are as follows:
Male: 3.7-17.9 ng/mL

Insulin-Like Growth Factor 1 (IGF1) 267
ARUP Standard Range 116 - 358ng/mL

Cortisol 14.4ug/dL
Cortisol Reference Range:
Before 10am: 4.46-22.7
After 5pm: 1.7-14.1

April 12 (8 am)

Testosterone, Free 10.4
Standard Range 5.0 - 40.0pg/mL
Testosterone, Total 425.0
Standard Range 332 - 896ng/dL

Luteinizing Hormone (LH)3.4mIU/mL LH
Reference Ranges are as follows:
Female Ovulating:
Follicular phase: 2.58-12.1 mIU/mL
Peak : 27.3-96.9 mIU/mL
Luteal phase : 0.833-15.5 mIU/mL
Postmenopausal : 13.1-86.5 mIU/mL

Prolactin 22.9ng/mL Prolactin
Reference Ranges are as follows:
Male: 3.7-17.9 ng/mL
Normal Female(non-pregnant): 3.0-18.6 ng/mL

Free Thyroxine (FT4)1.20
Standard Range 0.78 - 2.19ng/dL

Angiotensin Converting Enzyme (ACE)26
Standard Range 4 - 60U/L

Ferritin 51.7
Standard Range 17.9 - 464.0ng/mL

Estradiol 13.4pg/mL Estradiol
Reference Ranges are as follows:
Male: 5.37-65.9 pg/mL
Female Ovulating:
Follicular phase: 26.6-161 pg/mL
Peak : 187-382 pg/mL
Luteal phase : 32.7-201 pg/mL
Postmenopausal : 5.37-38.4 pg/mL

April 6 (9 am)

Metabolic Plan
Sodium 138 Standard Range 136 - 145 mmol/L
Potassium 3.9 Standard Range 3.6 - 5.0 mmol/L
Chloride 100 Standard Range 98 - 107 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide Standard Range 29H22 - 28 mmol/L
BUN 21 Standard Range 6 - 20 mg/dL
Creatinine 1.14 Standard Range 0.70 - 1.30 mg/dL
Glucose77 Standard Range 74 - 100 mg/dL
Calcium9.5 Standard Range 8.6 - 10.3 mg/dL
Total Protein7.5 Standard Range 6.0 - 8.3 gm/dL
Albumin4.8 Standard Range 3.5 - 5.0 gm/dL
SGPT/ALT 31 Standard Range 10 - 35 U/L
SGOT/AST37 Standard Range 14 - 50 U/L
Alkaline Phosphatase48 L Standard Range 53 - 128 U/L
Total Bilirubin0.8 Standard Range 0.3 - 1.2 mg/dL
Fasting?12
Est GFR not Afr-Am>60 >=60 mL/min

Testosterone 284 Standard Range 241 - 827 ng/dL

TSH2.487 Standard Range 0.300 - 4.000 mU/l

Vit D3 25-Hydroxy37 ng/mL
Vit D2 25-Hydroxy<1 ng/mL
Vit D Total 25-Hydroxy37 32 - 100 ng/m
0-14 ng/mL = Severely deficient
15-31 ng/mL = Mildly deficient
32-100 ng/mL = Optimal
>100 ng/mL = Consider toxicity

Lipid Profile
Cholesterol126 Standard Range 108 - 199 mg/dL
Triglyceride46 Standard Range 26 - 149 mg/dL
HDL45 Standard Range 40 - 125 mg/dL
Chol/HDL Ratio2.8 Standard Range 0.0 - 5.0
LDL72 Standard Range 0 - 99 mg/dL

Vitamin B-12 - 756 Standard Range 180 - 914 pg/mL

Hey bro... I am really sorry that you are dealing with the things you have going on right now... I will try to help you the best I can...

Your numbers are not good as you already know and my guess is that while you may have thought you recovered after your cycle, you in fact did not... Your pct was not good... Nolva is a terrible pct and it does nothing in terms of recovery... Your clomid dosage was very high as well... That's besides the point now but I am just trying to explain why things may be the way they are now...

Here are a few things that you need to look into... Your prolactin levels are bad... You can help this with either prami or caber (dostinex)... You can get prami at chemicalneed.com...

as far as your test goes... I would recommend you run the unleashed/post cycle combo... You may also want to try hcgenerate as well... these will help to boost your test...

I hope this helps you out bro... You should also pm Needtogetaas and explain your situation to him... He would be the most ideal person for you to go to...

I do think what I gave you to work with will be your best options... i wish you all the best... trust me when i tell you that i understand the pressures you are under as I have been a fashion model for 6 years and also worked in europe... I know the pressures we are put under to have perfect bodies and it stays with you forever... You always need to make sure you ask questions and do everything properly to ensure things like this don't happen to you bro... I'm always here if you need anything... good luck!

 

[jug_head_man]

Hey bro... I am really sorry that you are dealing with the things you have going on right now... I will try to help you the best I can...

Your numbers are not good as you already know and my guess is that while you may have thought you recovered after your cycle, you in fact did not... Your pct was not good... Nolva is a terrible pct and it does nothing in terms of recovery... Your clomid dosage was very high as well... That's besides the point now but I am just trying to explain why things may be the way they are now...

Here are a few things that you need to look into... Your prolactin levels are bad... You can help this with either prami or caber (dostinex)... You can get prami at chemicalneed.com...

as far as your test goes... I would recommend you run the unleashed/post cycle combo... You may also want to try hcgenerate as well... these will help to boost your test...

I hope this helps you out bro... You should also pm Needtogetaas and explain your situation to him... He would be the most ideal person for you to go to...

I do think what I gave you to work with will be your best options... i wish you all the best... trust me when i tell you that i understand the pressures you are under as I have been a fashion model for 6 years and also worked in europe... I know the pressures we are put under to have perfect bodies and it stays with you forever... You always need to make sure you ask questions and do everything properly to ensure things like this don't happen to you bro... I'm always here if you need anything... good luck!

Dylan - Thank you for the quick response. As far as I was concerned, I took all the necessary precautions, did 6 months of research and my body was in peak shape for use. The only reason I say this is because I had NO symptoms until recently. This is 3 years after the fact. Could I have had low test and high prolactin this entire time? Do you think and endo will prescribe me dostinex with levels that are high normal range? Will fixing my prolactin bump my testosterone even in the slightest bit?

 

[dylangemelli]

Dylan - Thank you for the quick response. As far as I was concerned, I took all the necessary precautions, did 6 months of research and my body was in peak shape for use. The only reason I say this is because I had NO symptoms until recently. This is 3 years after the fact. Could I have had low test and high prolactin this entire time? Do you think and endo will prescribe me dostinex with levels that are high normal range? Will fixing my prolactin bump my testosterone even in the slightest bit?

hey bro... it is very possible an endo could give you a script for dostinex... it never hurts to try! you need to get the test boosters that i recommended to help your test... its hard to say if the prolactin issue will help with that or not but i wouldn't rely on that man... you need to cover as much ground as you can with this... you most certainly can try to get the script though.... it is very possible... it is possible that you could have had low test and high prolactin the entire time... sometimes you can't always feel these things or know... symptoms and signs aren't as obvious some times... those are all hypothetical at this point and fairly meaningless... the important thing is getting you fixed up and back to normal as quickly and safely as possible...

 

[Aplopez8]

After three years pct or not the body should have come to a recovery .. Idk if ur cycle Is to blame or some other factor could have played it's part in ur problem

 

[stevesmi]

well you didn't run an AI during that cycle but its been 3 years.

i would say its possible you fucked your hormones up from juicing young, but without pre bloodwork i cannot confirm that.

in any event dylan above is right.. prami or caber will drop your prolactin.. your sex drive is probably very low right now

 

[XceepsX]

High prolactin definitely interferes with test levels... Get some cabergoline run forma with it and hcgenerate. I had a similar issue. Best of luck

 

[RickRock13]

Caber or Prami is a good start to lower your prolactin and get your libido back.

 

[stevesmi]

you might also want to see an endo and see what the quack says about your prolactin. caber shouldn't be used permanently so eventually you will have to come off. i would like to know WHY your prolactin is so damn high. makes no sense.. are you sure you aren't taking any drug or something that could be elevating that? maybe you have something else going on in your body.

 

[Aplopez8]

Can some one explain how he feels fine for three years after cycle then his body decides to shut down randomly and it's a consequence of the cycle
He had done 3 years ago..