HCG Dilema...Expert opinions please.

[myx25]

Here is my cycle just to give you some background. Anyway I am over 26 and have plenty of experience in cycling and training. Trained for 4 yrs natural b4 doing a cycle I am not a rookie or a newbie by any means.

Cycle:

Primobolan Depot 100mg/cc (WKS 1-12)
1st wk - 600mg
2nd wk - 500mg
***400mg*** until wk12

Dbols
Using it as a kick start for 25 days at 20mg/day.

Propinate
200mg/wk spread out into 3 shots for 5wks. Also serves as a kick start.

This cycle is pertty much a Primo cycle with using a litte test to jump start my cycle. I react well to low doses, so I don't need to hit em high with test. I am getting phenomenal results so far. I am in week 3 now and almost done my dbols. Here is the PCT question...

I have read on other boards and even on this one that guys are using HCG during cycle to minimize their LH hormone degradation, and using Clomid Post cycle once the AAS are out of your system. The way they use the HCG is by taking 250iu twice a week throughout the cycle. I have seen this in HRT treatments but I need your bros advice on what I should do. I heard that using HCG Post cycle will hinder recovery and to stick to Clomid. I was planning on doing HCG after the test is out of my system after week 5 about 5000iu EOD at like 1000iu/shot IM for 10 days. Then once I am done the Primo in week 12 do the Clomid therapy which I know very well how to use. I have been advised that this is too much HCG in one shot (1000iu). At the most use 500iu. But the best is 250iu twice weekly throughout cycle. They say that recovery is much faster and you experience hardly any sort of crash?

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?

 

[myx25]

bump....need ur advice pls.

 

[210toosmall]

if you use too much hcg or too long you risk leydig cell desensitization
which will cause the hcg to not be effective.
some say it shouldn't be used for more than 3 weeks straight
i used after a 12 week cycle of test/deca @ varying doses
the day after my last test shot and for three weeks @ 1000 iu e3d
and didnt experience any kind of crash and had no probs with recovery.
hope this may help?

 

[myx25]

This is what I was thinking as well. Doing like 250iu will be a hassle to measure, but either way, if it's the way to go I would do it, but I share the same logic as you 210toosmall. I think I am just gonna get 5000iu instead of 10000iu since my cycle isn't too test intensive. I will shoot the HCG after week 5, during my Primobolan only adminstration after the last Prop shot. I am gonna do what you suggested and what I though made sense. 1000iu e3d. By the way did you inject IM or SC?

 

[myx25]

bump

 

[awittyusername]

I've used hcg for almost a yr at 250iu twice a wk. I use it for HRT. It keeps my balls full. I love the stuff.

 

[210toosmall]

This is what I was thinking as well. Doing like 250iu will be a hassle to measure, but either way, if it's the way to go I would do it, but I share the same logic as you 210toosmall. I think I am just gonna get 5000iu instead of 10000iu since my cycle isn't too test intensive. I will shoot the HCG after week 5, during my Primobolan only adminstration after the last Prop shot. I am gonna do what you suggested and what I though made sense. 1000iu e3d. By the way did you inject IM or SC?

i shot im but ive heard some say sub-q but id stick w/im

 

[myx25]

I think I will do my 5000iu at 500iu twice a week until it's done from wk 4 until done. From doing all the research I did and placing myself in between an HRT patient and an AAS user dosage wise, I have had people give me supportive advice on this route I am choosing. This would equal 1000iu per week and I don't think this is too much considering I am not doing an HRT treatment, yet I am using it to prevent shrinkage of the sack throughout cycle and enable myself to recover quicker with my PCT afterwards. What do ya'll think? I sort of took all your advice and tried to find a marginal mid-point considering the cycle I am doing. Keep in mind this is the 1st time I am trying to use HCG during cycle, and so far it's amazing. I used to use 10000iu divided in 4 shots over 2 weeks, after a test/deca cycle for example. As you can very well see now I am doing things differently this time, and I really think my results are better, my nuts are back to normal, and we'll see how it works out. And instead 10000iu I am doing 5000iu during and for longer stretch. Thanks for all your support and advice, keep em coming...