Have u seen these guys on fb?

[figurechamp]

Has anyone seen the group page called "no bullshit bodybuilding" on facebook? They've been posting a lot of interesting information, much of which goes against the grain of what is considered "norm" in the bodybuilding world. For example, they write that the glycemic index is a bunch of hogwash and that calories are calories. Some of what they've posted on their page and on YouTube has been pretty compelling and sounds as if it's reliable information.

Thing is, the guys who "own" the page don't really "look" like bodybuilders. They kinda look like geeky science kids. Or maybe I just have perception problems. I'm not calling them out on their appearance to bash them, I'm just suggesting that perhaps "looking the part" in this sport would help your argument; that it would strengthen it. No pun intended. Add to that, I haven't been able to find their credentials-- are they grad students of nutrition at some prestigious university? Scientists? Just random dudes who feel like pissing people off? I don't know.

I was hoping some if you might check it out and report back on your thoughts??? Warning, though: some of what they post might anger some and even potentially offend others.

 

[caligirl85]

This is my two cents...for what it's worth.

I have found that there is a lot more progressive information on things like diet in the natural bodybuilding world and some of the guys listed on that FB page are guys who are well known to do research in those arenas. A lot of the recent research on dieting flies directly in the face of some of the old school bodybuilding rules ie: 6-7 small meals/ day, low carb only, fasted cardio burns muscle, you must cut water and sodium before a show etc etc. I have read some very heated debates as some of our bodybuilding rules get challenged by research and research done by guys who compete and have the Phd.

I'm not necessarily supporting one or the other and I have come to learn a few things in how I approach information, especially when it comes to dieting and prepping for a show. You need to keep in mind the differences in your body when you are using aas vs a natty. For example, a lot of the natty competitors do not water deplete before a show anymore, where a lot of the aas people may need to because of water retention due to the drugs. And...I think it's really important to keep an open mind when hearing and learning about new ideas and not just do something because that's the way it's always been done. It was a really hard shift for me because my initial learnings and first prep were done very old school but I've sure learned a lot in the last couple of years.

 

[figurechamp]

Thanks, Cali. I appreciate your two cents. some of what they've suggested sounds so good to me! Like they say that it's ok to eat (for example) ice cream provided you've gotten all ur macronutrients for the day and as long as ur sensible about it. So I don't feel as much guilt as I normally would after having that nutter butter blizzard that I had last night (my god-- it was soooo freaking good!!!). And I made sure that I still had my evening meals instead of skipping them bc of the added calories of the blizzard. It's like my life has been transformed! Lol

But there's the other part of me that says this isn't something I'd wanna do every day or every week. What if it did ruin everything I've already worked for? I'd be so pissed at myself. So I'm taking the new information that I've been reading and trying to incorporate that which makes the most logical sense to me.

Phd types are always kinda weird. I work at a university and they are the oddest people. They know a lot but their application and people skills usually suck. I don't know that this is true of these fb guys, but what they've suggested let's me have a really kickass cheat day!

 

[RottenWillow]

It's essential to read different authors to stay in touch with disparate (often opposing) paradigms. At the very least it keeps you thinking creatively. The "hive mind" is great for working through certain barriers but not so good for exploring completely new ways of thinking. I probably read 3 or 4 very different sites a day to that end.

 

[caligirl85]

It's essential to read different authors to stay in touch with disparate (often opposing) paradigms. At the very least it keeps you thinking creatively. The "hive mind" is great for working through certain barriers but not so good for exploring completely new ways of thinking. I probably read 3 or 4 very different sites a day to that end.

This is such a good point and I'm the same RW. Read a few different sites on a daily basis. It's so interesting to me how opposing some of the views can be and how passionate some are about their views. I love reading the debates among some of the top level, national competitors, as they can achieve often similar results with themselves and their clients, using different ideologies and methods. I totally agree...thinking creatively and critically are so important in that continual learning and when all else fails, trial and error on the individual level.

 

[caligirl85]

Thanks, Cali. I appreciate your two cents. some of what they've suggested sounds so good to me! Like they say that it's ok to eat (for example) ice cream provided you've gotten all ur macronutrients for the day and as long as ur sensible about it. So I don't feel as much guilt as I normally would after having that nutter butter blizzard that I had last night (my god-- it was soooo freaking good!!!). And I made sure that I still had my evening meals instead of skipping them bc of the added calories of the blizzard. It's like my life has been transformed! Lol

But there's the other part of me that says this isn't something I'd wanna do every day or every week. What if it did ruin everything I've already worked for? I'd be so pissed at myself. So I'm taking the new information that I've been reading and trying to incorporate that which makes the most logical sense to me.

Phd types are always kinda weird. I work at a university and they are the oddest people. They know a lot but their application and people skills usually suck. I don't know that this is true of these fb guys, but what they've suggested let's me have a really kickass cheat day!

LOL gotta love the cheat days! Another site I read has a group who follow the whole "if it fits in your macros eat it" philosophy no matter what it is. That is one of the passionate debates I've followed for awhile now. I would think as they get closer to the stage though, that may not ring true but probably individual too. It's fascinating stuff!!

 

[figurechamp]

Just when I thought I had all this crap squared away, I read more stuff that conflicts with what I just adopted into my routine. Lol! it's never-ending!!!

But I am paying close attention to how my body reacts. For instance, I've found that low carb with one high carb day does not work for me. I lose too much energy and am quite hateful most of the week, except for the two days following the carb up day. So this past week, I added another high carb day, so I carb load (within reason) on Tuesday's and Fridays. Amazing workouts all week long and I didn't wanna rip anyone's face off!

Now I don't know how well this will work out when I actually start the leaning out thing, but I'm gonna run with it for a few weeks until I read something else that makes me think I'm doing the wrong thing and start panicking. Hahaha!