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Harvard Low-Carb Study (Crazy Results)

Huh, no offense bro, but I dont need a harvard study to tell me that. Ive proven this with my own body time and time again. Anyone who is into this sport and watches their diet should have found this out by trial and error. And now some scientist will try to take the credit for unlocking the wholly grail to weight loss, lol!

LB--
 
littlebig, did you read the entire article? Yes most people already know that low-carb diets usually work...and I could tell you that too since i'm on CKD...but the amazing thing about this study is they're saying that maybe it's possible that some calories act differently (metabolize faster or slower) than other calories. By scientific standards that's impossible though...since 1 calorie should be the same amount of energy as another calorie.

I'm sure there will be a ton of spinoff research from this study. It'll be really interesting to see what they find.

drveejay11, thanks.
 
cmtuggl said:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031013/ap_on_he_me/low_carb_mystery_1

This is a very intersting read. Supposedly people on a low carb diet can eat more calories than those on a low fat diet and still lose the same or more weight.

In the study the low-carb people ate 25,000 more calories. This should've added 7 extra lbs, but it didn't. They're now saying maybe calories aren't always equal...weird.

Nice Read.

Atkins states in his book that low carb diets give you a metabolic advantage. Also, A lot of bodybuilders have used low carb diets for years with success.
 
I read the article earlier today and I thought that this was pretty much already known. Isn't this ability to lose weight at higher calorie count a result of the inefficiency of ketones as fuel? If your body is running more inefficiently, of course you're going to need more energy to get the same performance.
 
All calories not being equal is old news. Hell, do you know how calorie counts of macronutrients and foods are determined? They are simply burned in a bomb calorimeter!

The human body is a bit more dynamic than that.
 
LitttleBig said:
Yes I did read it all. I should have expounded more like Silent did. I just have always figured this ever since I played with carbs and calories.

LB--
I missed cmtuggl's response to you.

cmtuggl states: "...but the amazing thing about this study is they're saying that maybe it's possible that some calories act differently (metabolize faster or slower) than other calories. By scientific standards that's impossible though...since 1 calorie should be the same amount of energy as another calorie."

What you write seems logical enough. The truth is that the measure we use for food energy is simply a poor one. As I said, to get that measure we simply stick the nutrient in question into a can and light it on fire, measuring the heat produced. Thus, the measure we get in only good in terms of energy relesed via heat energy activation.

Things react a little differently in the body. We use all manner of chemical reactions to harvest the energy stored in food. Heat plays only a minute role in the equation in regard to harvesting stored food energy.


Add to that the dynamics of the inumerable macronutrient and particle combonations the actual meals we consume as well as the inumerable variables involved in human phsyiology and it becomes easy to see that the 3 very differently composed chemical macronutrients yield differing amounts of energy during metabolization.




In addition, net energy yield is only one factor involved in "weight loss" or gain. Hormonal factors are certainly involved. The dynamic effects of given macronutirent ratios vary. Many factors play into this. Protein is a natural diuretic - up protein while lowering the other macronutrients and you will carry less water. The list of contributing variables goes on and on and on.
 
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