Guidance Needed. Anavar

[ohjesuschrist]

Hi, just found this site a couple days ago, lots of great information.

I have a question though that I just can't really solve in my head.

I'm 28, and I've been working out for a good 8 years. I honestly don't know anybody who uses roids, so I have no guidance here.

I found a reputable source on the internet for some Anavar, and I wanted to know after my cycle what I should be using for PCT.

I heard SERMs were counter intuitive in regards to keeping gains after a steroid cycle, so should I look into Aramatose Inhibitors instead for my PCT?

I'm sorry, I'm just really confused about PCT.
I appreciate anybodys help.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Hi, just found this site a couple days ago, lots of great information.

I have a question though that I just can't really solve in my head.

I'm 28, and I've been working out for a good 8 years. I honestly don't know anybody who uses steroids, so I have no guidance here.

I found a reputable source on the internet for some Anavar, and I wanted to know after my cycle what I should be using for PCT - post cycle therapy - .

I heard SERMs were counter intuitive in regards to keeping gains after a steroid cycle, so should I look into Aramatose Inhibitors instead for my PCT?

I'm sorry, I'm just really confused about PCT.
I appreciate anybodys help.

If your just doing Anavar, keep the cycle short n’ sweet. You should be able to make some gains for yourself in only a 4 week period. Plus if you keep it short, you want have to worry about shooting hCG. However, if you go any longer than 6 weeks you should definitely consider shooting hCG during your cycle so your testes don’t shutdown and desensitize from lack of activity. You don’t want this to happen.

With Anavar, 80mg/day is an ideal dose for solid gains with minimal side effects. Derma Sustain for 30 days would be all you would need for PCT. You can throw a T booster in there too like Unleased or Myogenx. Clomid and nolva are always an option too, but I don’t like these drugs because of their potential side effects. (hard on the liver, lowering libido, making you emotional, ect.)

Good luck.

-Pp

 

[ohjesuschrist]

If your just doing Anavar, keep the cycle short n’ sweet. You should be able to make some gains for yourself in only a 4 week period. Plus if you keep it short, you want have to worry about shooting HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - . However, if you go any longer than 6 weeks you should definitely consider shooting hCG during your cycle so your testes don’t shutdown and desensitize from lack of activity. You don’t want this to happen.

With Anavar, 80mg/day is an ideal dose for solid gains with minimal side effects. Derma Sustain for 30 days would be all you would need for PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . You can throw a T booster in there too like Unleased or Myogenx. Clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - are always an option too, but I don’t like these drugs because of their potential side effects. (hard on the liver, lowering libido, making you emotional, ect.)

Good luck.

-Pp

Ah I see, that derma looks sweet btw.
Suppose that I was going to do an 8 week cycle, when would I need to and for how long would I shoot the HCG?

 

[Primordial Performance]

Ah I see, that derma looks sweet btw.
Suppose that I was going to do an 8 week cycle, when would I need to and for how long would I shoot the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - ?

You would do 250iu twice a week starting on week 2 and ending a week before your last anavar dose.

-Pp

 

[ohjesuschrist]

You would do 250iu twice a week starting on week 2 and ending a week before your last dose.

-Pp

Thank you PP I appreciate the help alot!

 

[GGG777]

If your just doing Anavar, keep the cycle short n’ sweet. You should be able to make some gains for yourself in only a 4 week period. Plus if you keep it short, you want have to worry about shooting HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . However, if you go any longer than 6 weeks you should definitely consider shooting hCG during your cycle so your testes don’t shutdown and desensitize from lack of activity. You don’t want this to happen.

With Anavar, 80mg/day is an ideal dose for solid gains with minimal side effects. Derma Sustain for 30 days would be all you would need for PCT - post cycle therapy - . You can throw a T booster in there too like Unleased or Myogenx. Clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - are always an option too, but I don’t like these drugs because of their potential side effects. (hard on the liver, lowering libido, making you emotional, ect.)

Good luck.

-Pp

80 mg per day? For a beginner? Thats a little high IMO. I would recommend 40mg / ed and see how it goes.

 

[advanced-stealth]

I agree 80mg may be a little high! Although PP has a good point, it will be short and sweet, so might as well make the best of the cycle. There will be no Test or any other steroid being used. If Test or something was involved I would say run a lower dose and it would be good.

Could go either way with Anavar. Some get great results from 40mg, while others require over 60mg minimum per day to get beneficial results.

Everyone will react different to each compound person to person.

 

[702daswoll1]

80 mg per day? For a beginner? Thats a little high IMO. I would recommend 40mg / ed and see how it goes.

+2. Go with 50 every day for your first run. 80mg is not necessary.

 

[holy ghost]

80mg > 50mg

 

[bigron99]

i am now about 8 weeks in on a var only cycle at 50mg per day....i have gained 12lbs so far with little side effects.

i have nolva on hand for pct would running it 20mg per day for 3 weeks be sufficient?

should note that libido is very high and next to no testicular shrinkage....

 

[Jon79]

i am now about 8 weeks in on a Anavar - oxandrolone - only cycle at 50mg per day....i have gained 12lbs so far with little side effects.

i have Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on hand for PCT - post cycle therapy - would running it 20mg per day for 3 weeks be sufficient?

should note that libido is very high and next to no testicular shrinkage....

no the nolva only will not be sufficient....

you need to get something to get the natty test level back to normal so u dont crash

pic up a bottle of Derma Sustain it will do you better than clomid will

 

[holy ghost]

fuck jon you look way more ripped in that pic dude

 

[Jon79]

fuck jon you look way more ripped in that pic dude

thanks dude that was today

i think in the other ones its really bright in the room and im pale as fuck so i dont have a tan....

so you cant see the shadows and contrast

but thanks man im getting there

 

[Primordial Performance]

+2. Go with 50 every day for your first run. 80mg is not necessary.

For most guys, gains are most apparent at 80mg/day. Besides, you are just as much shut down from 50mg/day as you are from 80mg/day and you’re doing just as much atherosclerotic damage. You might as well reap the most muscular gains and take the higher dose. (Anything above 120mg/day and muscles start to cramp.)

I guess it really depends how much you wanna spend. When you have kilos lying around you tend not to scoff at a higher dose.

BTW, running Test with avavar is a great idea. It’s the all time best stack IMO.

-Pp

 

[ohjesuschrist]

Actually, now that I think of it I have another question.
I know you said to run the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - during the cycle, but why not after the cycle too? Isn't it supposed to make your body maintain natural test production?
I could just taper it off after the cycle right?

 

[Kidda]

I'm a newb so I'm no authority on this but I thought you didn't need novaldex with anavar because it doesn't convert to estrogen - and Novaldex is an anti-estrogen isnt it? Please correct me if I'm wrong guys! thanks

 

[halfcenturian]

Run Var at 60-80 mg/ED. Take half dose in AM. Half in PM.
No need for HCG unless your nuts start to shrink.
Be sure to take CEE with your var too. Major benefit. And Lipid supports.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Actually, now that I think of it I have another question.
I know you said to run the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - during the cycle, but why not after the cycle too? Isn't it supposed to make your body maintain natural test production?
I could just taper it off after the cycle right?

You don’t want to use hCG after the cycle if you ran it during the cycle.

The point is to keep your testes functioning during your cycle. When you take anavar this will shut off your LH so your testes will have nothing stimulating them if you dont take hCG. If they are inactive for long enough (4 or more weeks) they become desensitized to the effect of LH, so even after you quite the steroids and your LH levels return to normal your testes will no longer produce the same amount of testosterone they once did. This is why its so important to keep them active with an LH mimicker like hCG.

Your LH will return to normal fairly quickly after a cycle so you won’t need the hCG any longer… and if you continue to take it, it will suppress your body’s own LH and will only prolong recovery.

IMO, hCG on cycle is necessary for any cycle over 6 weeks.

-Pp

 

[Kidda]

You don’t want to use HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - after the cycle if you ran it during the cycle.

The point is to keep your testes functioning during your cycle. When you take anavar this will shut off your lh - leutenizing hormone - so your testes will have nothing stimulating them if you dont take hCG. If they are inactive for long enough (4 or more weeks) they become desensitized to the effect of LH, so even after you quite the steroids and your LH levels return to normal your testes will no longer produce the same amount of testosterone they once did. This is why its so important to keep them active with an LH mimicker like hCG.

Your LH will return to normal fairly quickly after a cycle so you won’t need the hCG any longer… and if you continue to take it, it will suppress your body’s own LH and will only prolong recovery.

IMO, hCG on cycle is necessary for any cycle over 6 weeks.

-Pp

I am also thinking of doing a cycle similar to this. In your opinion, PP, would a conbination of nat test boosters as (dermacrine sustain, trib, avena sativa) be enough to keep nat test production up - I know the avena an trib stimulates LH; or do you definately need the HCG?? Would the supps alone be enough? Thanks

 

[needtogetaas]

i am now about 8 weeks in on a Anavar - oxandrolone - only cycle at 50mg per day....i have gained 12lbs so far with little side effects.

i have Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on hand for PCT - post cycle therapy - would running it 20mg per day for 3 weeks be sufficient?

should note that libido is very high and next to no testicular shrinkage....

If that works for you let us know. I would run dermacrine sustain with it though.

 

[needtogetaas]

+2. Go with 50 every day for your first run. 80mg is not necessary.

Were not talking about dbols here guys. 80mg var is fine.

 

[ohjesuschrist]

You don’t want to use HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - after the cycle if you ran it during the cycle.

The point is to keep your testes functioning during your cycle. When you take anavar this will shut off your lh - leutenizing hormone - so your testes will have nothing stimulating them if you dont take hCG. If they are inactive for long enough (4 or more weeks) they become desensitized to the effect of LH, so even after you quite the steroids and your LH levels return to normal your testes will no longer produce the same amount of testosterone they once did. This is why its so important to keep them active with an LH mimicker like hCG.

Your LH will return to normal fairly quickly after a cycle so you won’t need the hCG any longer… and if you continue to take it, it will suppress your body’s own LH and will only prolong recovery.

IMO, hCG on cycle is necessary for any cycle over 6 weeks.

-Pp

I think I get it now. I couldn't wrap my head around it before, but I forgot that the body stops its test production when it senses another source, hence the HCG.

Thanks again for the help

 

[Primordial Performance]

I am also thinking of doing a cycle similar to this. In your opinion, PP, would a conbination of nat test boosters as (dermacrine sustain, trib, avena sativa) be enough to keep nat test production up - I know the avena an trib stimulates lh - leutenizing hormone - ; or do you definately need the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - ?? Would the supps alone be enough? Thanks

No supplements would be powerful enough to boost LH enough to keep natty T production up during cycle. LH production is shut down because the steroids are bound to the AR in the brain and there is no way to prevent this. The only way around it is providing an exogeneous source of LH to directly stimulate the testes. (hCG)

-Pp

 

[Kidda]

Ok got it! Thanks PP!!