Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hi... maybe someone can help me. I am 34 and have worked out for 15 years. I have a good work ethic in the gym and a clean diet. But I need to lose body fat... I am 5'4" 135lbs. My BF is probably about 16% ( a guess on my part). Some girls at the gym told me that they use GH to stay lean and got me a box. I asked my boyfriend, a doctor, about this and he said that it should work well… but that he had little experience with women on hormones. So I am trying it anyway. It is legitimate as best I can tell... Serostim 6mg X 7 vials lot # mph551a1 exp 05/2004. I started taking 1 unit per day (1/2 in am and 1/2 pm) for 3 weeks. My boyfriend had some Primobolan and started me on 25 mg per week... he is pretty cautious about women on hormones… even though he does enough stuff to kill a horse. Well… nothing was happening at 3 weeks. He told me to stay with it... but, I changed to 2 units/day(1 in am and 1 pm). I have been giving this sub Q for 2 weeks now. I now have a signinficant amount of water retention. My face, feet, and hands are swollen. And I am not fitting into my clothes well. My boyfriend double-checked my dosage to make sure I was doing it right. It has been 5 weeks, and I am totally discouraged. I have no experience with GH and need some SOUND advice. What can I do differently? Can I lose body fat with GH? Is this a waste of my money? Is the water gain a transient thing and should I push on? If not, why does everyone rave over the great effects they get from this stuff. Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. If you know anyone that can help, can I email them... preferrably a woman who has used before...
gh and fat loss
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I eat less than 100 grams of carbs per day... and try to make those all complex. My total calories are about 1300 per day.
breakfast
1 piece of wheat bread with crunchy peanut butter
lunch
medium salad with a couple of table spoons of NON-diet dressing; piece of chicken or hamburger patty
dinner
lean cuizine or healthy choice meal --- cal 280-300 fat 7g carb 40g sugars 7g protein 13g
drinks
I drink 2 liters of water per day and a couple of diet cokes
cheating
I cheat about 3 times per week... usually at night; sometimes I may eat 2-3 chocalate chip cookies or a scoop of ice cream; A girl gets to live a little, huh?
I have been eating like this for years... makes little difference. My boyfriend says small changes make all the difference when the diet is good. What changes should I make? IS THE GH A GOOD OPTION FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME?
breakfast
1 piece of wheat bread with crunchy peanut butter
lunch
medium salad with a couple of table spoons of NON-diet dressing; piece of chicken or hamburger patty
dinner
lean cuizine or healthy choice meal --- cal 280-300 fat 7g carb 40g sugars 7g protein 13g
drinks
I drink 2 liters of water per day and a couple of diet cokes
cheating
I cheat about 3 times per week... usually at night; sometimes I may eat 2-3 chocalate chip cookies or a scoop of ice cream; A girl gets to live a little, huh?
I have been eating like this for years... makes little difference. My boyfriend says small changes make all the difference when the diet is good. What changes should I make? IS THE GH A GOOD OPTION FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME?
OK... I got it. I weighed 142 today and I am gonna call myself 18% BF. Lean weight = 100 - 18 = 82% = .82
So...
BMR = 142 X .82 x 10 = 1164 Calories
I burn 500 to 700 calories per day on the aerobic equipment such as the stair stepper or the bike,etc. I burn at least this when I do the 45 minute spin class. I do one or the other 5 times per week. I also do weights but I never count those calories... about 20 minutes on the machines... I rotate muscle groups thru the week.
So...
AMR = 1164 + 600 = 1774 Calories
How did I do? Is this right?
So...
BMR = 142 X .82 x 10 = 1164 Calories
I burn 500 to 700 calories per day on the aerobic equipment such as the stair stepper or the bike,etc. I burn at least this when I do the 45 minute spin class. I do one or the other 5 times per week. I also do weights but I never count those calories... about 20 minutes on the machines... I rotate muscle groups thru the week.
So...
AMR = 1164 + 600 = 1774 Calories
How did I do? Is this right?
Monday
dumbbell -- flat bench 2 sets x 12
dumbbell -- incline bench 2 sets x 12
ped deck machine -- 2 sets x 20
Tuesday
dumbbell military -- 2 sets x 12
DB lateral raises -- 2 sets X 12
DB front raises -- 2 sets X 12
Wednesday
lat pulls -- 2 sets X 12
row machine -- 2 sets x 12
Thursday
leg press -- 2 sets x 12
leg curl -- 2 sets x 12
leg exten -- 2 sets x 12
Friday
DB curls -- 2 sets x 12
DB tricep -- 2 sets x 12
I can do these in 20 minutes and then move to cardio
dumbbell -- flat bench 2 sets x 12
dumbbell -- incline bench 2 sets x 12
ped deck machine -- 2 sets x 20
Tuesday
dumbbell military -- 2 sets x 12
DB lateral raises -- 2 sets X 12
DB front raises -- 2 sets X 12
Wednesday
lat pulls -- 2 sets X 12
row machine -- 2 sets x 12
Thursday
leg press -- 2 sets x 12
leg curl -- 2 sets x 12
leg exten -- 2 sets x 12
Friday
DB curls -- 2 sets x 12
DB tricep -- 2 sets x 12
I can do these in 20 minutes and then move to cardio
I agree with spatts on many things, but especially putting hGH around 100th on your list of things to try. In my opinion you need a lot more protein, a lot more weight training and you need a lot more meals throughout the day. You also need to get that sugar out of your last meal of the day, and preferably ditch the convenience foods altogether.
It also sounds like you've been eating too few calories for years, combined with too much cardio. This inevitably leads to a condition we call "skinny-fat" syndrome where your metabolism has slowed to that of a snails so that it's easy to hold onto your fat stores even with very low calories. The best cure for this is to eat more, not less, and you can also raise your metabolism by gaining some muscle (this means proper weight training). I'm pretty sure if you ask nicely, spatts will prolly have a link or two to diet and weight training plans you might use as a starting point.
It also sounds like you've been eating too few calories for years, combined with too much cardio. This inevitably leads to a condition we call "skinny-fat" syndrome where your metabolism has slowed to that of a snails so that it's easy to hold onto your fat stores even with very low calories. The best cure for this is to eat more, not less, and you can also raise your metabolism by gaining some muscle (this means proper weight training). I'm pretty sure if you ask nicely, spatts will prolly have a link or two to diet and weight training plans you might use as a starting point.
Sassy69
New member
I agree also. I've been on gh for quite a while at 2 iu/day, 5 on 2 off.-- first of all you won't feel anything for at least 2 weeks. At 2-3 weeks you may feel a sense of "well being" -- it makes your skin a little nicer. The biggest thing I noticed is no more tendonitis. I had sever shoulder pain & general tendonitis in my arms & it no longer exists. I also attribute some of this to MSM, but that was the biggest diff I saw in the GH. Also it takes a while , like a few months to really see significant anything from gh. I've been on it w/ no other "supps" and that is what I would say --- at least 3 months to see anything. I'll be 37 next week (ugh) -- so I feel that its helping me from an "aging" standpoint mostly. The primo may be causing some of your sides - though I can't say I have any experience w/ primo.. but it can't be the gh after only 2 weeks. Diet is usually the biggest culprit.
nikkita
New member
first one question... why you changed the doses without telling your boyfriend?? he is a doctor and is supervising what you are taking... anyway let me explain something so that you know about the importance of what spatts said about the diet... when using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, among others. For the case of the insulin, It is recommended that the athlete eats a complete meal every three hours, resulting in 6-7 meals daily. This causes the body to continuously release insulin so that the blood sugar level does not fall too low. Apart from the high damage potential that exogenous insulin can have in non-diabetics, incorrect use will simply and plainly make you FAT!
Too much insulin activates certain enzymes which convert glucose into glycerol and finally into triglyceride. Too little insulin, especially during a diet, reduces the anabolic effect of HGH.
So, take guts and tell your boyfriend you increased the dosage and modify your diet a.s.a.p.
Too much insulin activates certain enzymes which convert glucose into glycerol and finally into triglyceride. Too little insulin, especially during a diet, reduces the anabolic effect of HGH.
So, take guts and tell your boyfriend you increased the dosage and modify your diet a.s.a.p.
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