Fuck, Shit, Damn....what Do I Do- Free Test?

[SOLID]

Ok, I got my back my blood Test results. Good and bad. Good part in now I know why I haven't felt myself for the last few years, depressed, no sex drive, not making gains in the gym. Bad part is my Testosterone levels are low. I'm 24 years old and my Testosterone levels are low This was my Test results: Free Test (scale)[47-244] mine=57. Total Test (scale)[400-1100] mine=255. THATS FUCKED UP!!!
Now this is where I don't know what to do or how to go about doing it. My doctor said he would give me Test injections, but I'm not sure how much and if it will be beneficial to bodybuilding. I will be being monitored now I'm sure -so personal supplementation is outta the question. So as you can see I kinda fucked myself in a way cause now I kinda have to go through with this and now can't take matters upon myself and just start hitting 500mg a wk. Plus, I will probably have to pay a ridiculous amount for the shit legally instead of on the black market. Plus, I don't know if doc know's about all the anti E's, post cycle therapy, and stuff. And now I can't stack anything with it ( I just ordered some anavar BTW) cause it will fuck with the monitered blood test I will be taking- right? I need to devise a plan of attack to take in with me when I see the doc tommorow, so I can try to get what I need. So, I need your help people, my doc is cool, how can I go about getting enough Test supplementation to make it beneficial for growing and putting on some mass while increasing my libido and mental well being? I'm stressing out thinking about this.

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[Never Enough]

Sorry to hear that bro! Not really sure what to tell you as far as your doc situation either, but Damn 24 years old and you got these problems. How long you been cycling and what kind of cycles?? Hope everything works out for you though! Best of luck!

 

[solidspine]

Why is your natural test low?

If it were me I would simply do a normal test/anabolic cycle and post cycle clomid therapy and then wait 6 weeks and have blood work done again,

But I certainly would do a serious test cycle and kick start my workouts, eliminate depression and all the associated nonsense you are having to deal with.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

LIQUIDEX/ANASTROZOLE!

These items will both jack your enogenous T levels back up to the high/normal level.Anastrozole has been shown to increase Endo T production by close to a whopping 60%.

 

[SOLID]

thanks for the reply's guys. I had my blood work done first time Sept 2001, because I was depressed and felt it could be because of low test levels, come to find out it was -293 to be exact. My endocrinologist said that was normal and didn't do shit for me. So I took matters into my own hands and hit the juice- first cycle 500mgSUS/400mg EQ, I felt better, still not great, sex drive still sucked - but I was taking Proscar to so I attributed the lowered libido due to the finasteride. So 6 months later still feeling like shit, I decided I should get a check up to see where I'm at and went to my real Doc. I told him my probs, he had me get a test and I'm low test still. I'm trippin- 24 on HRT for life!!! WTF?

Huck, I did a liquidex only cycle, it was with the 1mg/ml stuff though with no results......however- I did get a bottle of the 4mg/ml from the best Liquid source there is -but havent tried it, I was waiting to use that for my next cycle. Looks like I'll have a life long cycle now.

 

[OVRTrainer]

thanks for the reply's guys. I had my blood work done first time Sept 2001, because I was depressed and felt it could be because of low test levels, come to find out it was -293 to be exact. My endocrinologist said that was normal and didn't do shit for me. So I took matters into my own hands and hit the juice- first cycle 500mgSUS/400mg EQ, I felt better, still not great, sex drive still sucked - but I was taking Proscar to so I attributed the lowered libido due to the finasteride. So 6 months later still feeling like shit, I decided I should get a check up to see where I'm at and went to my real Doc. I told him my probs, he had me get a test and I'm low test still. I'm trippin- 24 on HRT for life!!! WTF?

Huck, I did a liquidex only cycle, it was with the 1mg/ml stuff though with no results......however- I did get a bottle of the 4mg/ml from the best Liquid source there is -but havent tried it, I was waiting to use that for my next cycle. Looks like I'll have a life long cycle now.

Bro, I don't know what your plans are as far as having children, but you might want to talk to your doc about that as life-long HRT can lead to infertility.
Also, if you want to continue to cycle, just tell your doc that you're fine with the low test levels and leave it at that. Then you can continue to use the "good stuff" as much or for as long as you want. You could always go back in a year or 5 and start HRT then...just my suggestion.
Let us know how it goes.

 

[SOLID]

hmmm. something to think about

bump for more advice.

 

[Seth28]

hey bro, I would have done the HCG/clomid Therapy after your last cycle, wait a few weeks after your last clomid then go talk to the Dr about your symptoms. If it has been awhile since your last cycle, I am not sure how much the clomid will help.
Your Dr will do a couple things, one if you told him/her about your supplements, they may wait or put you on a regimen of HCG similar to what they use in young men with crytorchidism to try and jump start the testes (endocrinologist would more likely try this).
Or, he may just put you on HRT, if this is the case I would suggest to stay off the supplements until he has you at a level he is comfortable with and your symptoms resolve at. This can be all the way up to 200mg of test cyp a week (maximum therapuetic dose according to FDA) once your levels are normal he probably will only check your test levels once or twice a year at most. So after you are both comforatble with the dose you can start a new cycle and not have to worry about being tested every month. And if you have insureance your test cyp will be cheap and good (I think even uninsured its cheap, probably $40-50 for 10cc)

 

[Nathan]

Sorry to hear that bro. I actually just got blood donethis week and my test is low too but I've only been off for 7 weeks now froma 14 week cycle. I'm hitting clomid for a week or so and then two weeks from now I will get more blood taken to make sure it is going back up. It most likely won't be quite normal but so long as it is working and going up I'll jump back on. Good lcuk and let me know how it goes. Are your nut sregular size? I would seriously try the clomid/Liquidex for a few weeks then get blood taken and see what happens.

 

[SOLID]

Yeah, I did clomid therapy after my cycle- that was about 6months ago, thing is that my Test levels were low before I ever cycled, I had them checked before I did my first cycle they were at 293....so I think the problem has to do with something else, pituitary gland? Or just low test levels, I have felt shitty like this for many years, finally realised it could be due to lowered T-levels.
Nathan, thanks for your concern bro. I will keep you updated with what takes place- I go to the doctor today, so I'll find out more.

 

[dmxdmx112v]

Can't you just tell your docotor you don't want him to give you shots and forget about?? You can start your own test cycle with cheaper prices, arimidex, and clomid post cycle. After your cycle go to your doc and have blood test again to see if that helped...PEACE

 

[SOLID]

Well just got back from the doctor. He gave me a 200mg shot of Cyp. I don't get another for 14 days , they were going to schedule me to come back in 17 days later and I was like no I don't think so- you'll be jabbing my ass again no later than 14. The doctor said we will continue the Testosterone injections for a couple months to see if I feel better...if not- then no reason to keep administrating the injections- if so- then I will most likely be put on HRT. So, the shitty thing is now I can't start my cycle cause in 5 weeks I will have to do blood work again. I just ordered some Var too. Do you think I can still hit the Var up and then drop them a day before I have the blood work done? Then start them again afterwards?

 

[biggerthanu450]

I've been through the same situation, but my doc gave me androgel. The problem is this: The people on this board do not get regular blookwork, so they think your low test level is abnormal. It actually takes a very long time for endogenous test to come back up...even after arimidex, clomid, HCG ...etc.
I'd like to know if anyone's test was in normal range within 4 months after a cycle. The people that I know who have gotten blookwork all have depressed levels for at least 6 months following a moderate to heavy cycle.
Using low levels of test to bridge is great as long as you do not want kids in the future, otherwise you may have to suffer with low test for a few months regardless of post-cycle therapy

 

[OVRTrainer]

Well just got back from the doctor. He gave me a 200mg shot of Cyp. I don't get another for 14 days , they were going to schedule me to come back in 17 days later and I was like no I don't think so- you'll be jabbing my ass again no later than 14. The doctor said we will continue the Testosterone injections for a couple months to see if I feel better...if not- then no reason to keep administrating the injections- if so- then I will most likely be put on HRT. So, the shitty thing is now I can't start my cycle cause in 5 weeks I will have to do blood work again. I just ordered some Var too. Do you think I can still hit the Var up and then drop them a day before I have the blood work done? Then start them again afterwards?

Bro, I don't understand what you're getting at here...isn't injecting a therapeutic dose of 200mg of exogenous testosterone considered HRT?

Well if you want to cycle, just do what I do and don't go back for your next appointment....LOL Either way, good luck!

Oh, and did you talk to him about "sterility"???

 

[plow-horse]

Talked to my doctor about testosterone therapy and what he does is 1 shot a month of Test Cyp at 400mg . I know it has a long ½ life but wouldn’t that just make the levels go up and down. I tried to ask him about this but he doesn’t seem to know squat just what the suggested dose are. I have been all over the net on this and it seems common but no one explains why once a month. The only thing I can guess is they get your body to a normal test level and then as the AS tapers off the body will startup. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[SOLID]

yeah bro, I get 1 shot of cyp every 2 wks. 100mg a wk. your level rollercoaster. I told the doc this but, he said we'll that's what we administer to people that have ther balls chopped off so it should be good for you. I told him that I need wkly injections to keep steady blood levels but I don't think it had any effect. I think I'm going to take things in my own hands- be my own doc, cause honestly we know more than them about the subject in general. I just want to get a free script first so I can be monitored and have the insurance buy my gear for me.

But who knows....I'm getting sick of waiting through this trial period to see if I need HRT....therefore will get a script.