First Test Cycle - On Cycle and PCT Questions

[ajtaylor3003]

Hello Everyone!

I posted a similar thread last week and had some great feedback from you guys and I had a few extra questions so decided to post another as I will be looking to get all my substances purchased over the next couple of weeks.

Current Stats;
6' 2"
190lbs
9-10% BF
Training serious for 4 years, serious for 2.

Looking at running first ever serious cycle of Test P and Anavar. I have ran anavar and winny in the past back when I knew very little!

I have done a lot of research over the last month and the cycle I have choses is as follows;

On Cycle;
1-12 Test P @ 100mg EOD
5-13 Anavar @ 60mg ED*
2-13 Aromasin @ 12.5mg EOD or Arimidex @ 0.5mg EOD**
1-13 NTBM HCGenerate
1-13 NTBM N2Guard

PCT;
13-16 (4 Weeks) Protein Factory Unleashed / Post Cycle / HCGen?***
16+ NTBM Bridge

Reasons for Test P;
- Fast Acting, supposed less water retention than E (although no scientific evidence to back this up), out of system quick if anything goes wrong

Reason for Anavar;
- Increase anabolic effect, vascular / hardening of muscles

My questions are as follows;
1) I have ran the test on it's own for the first 4 weeks to see how I react to it, is this the right thing to do?

2) * I plan to run the anavar 1 week after last test pip... is this necessary?

3) ** Not sure whether to go with Aromasin of Arimidex, which do you guys prefer?

4) ** I plan to run the AI 1 week into the Test P... is this ok to do or should I run from day 1? I don't want to suppress estro straight off the bat do I? (I know a lot of people say only run AI if needed but with this being my first cycle I am very paranoid about gyno and water retention so running the AI would give me piece of mind)

5)*** I am running HCGen on cycle, is there any benefit in running this PCT too?

What do you guys think? Any help or advise will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

 

[SayMilesAway]

12 weeks is a lot of pining EOD. Also you should run the AI from day . Where are your REAL pct meds? You should also be running HCG throughout the cycle as well.

 

[ajtaylor3003]

12 weeks is a lot of pining EOD. Also you should run the AI from day . Where are your REAL pct meds? You should also be running HCG throughout the cycle as well.

I had previously looked into Nolva and Chlomid as PCT. I then looked into a lot of threads that claimed the used of unleashed/post cycle/hcgen were a better alternative due to less sides... is this right or wrong? Would I need to include Nolva or Chlomid as well as the OTC PCT's?

 

[SayMilesAway]

I had previously looked into Nolva and Chlomid as PCT. I then looked into a lot of threads that claimed the used of unleashed/post cycle/hcgen were a better alternative due to less sides... is this right or wrong? Would I need to include Nolva or Chlomid as well as the OTC PCT's?

I can't personally say they are wrong. I'm just going by what's generally accepted as PCT. Maybe someone who had more experience will chime in.

 

[EZ_E]

If you're going to go 12 weeks I'd go with cyp. The fast acting is over rated and with nutrition in check there will be no difference in H20 retention.

I use arimidex but you'll get differing opinions on both...and both are good. Start from Day - 1

HCG or HCGEnerate is run mid-cycle and as a bridge into PCT.

Very impressive stats and well planned. Asking questions and having everything lined up in advance is a smart move.

 

[ajtaylor3003]

If you're going to go 12 weeks I'd go with cyp. The fast acting is over rated and with nutrition in check there will be no difference in H20 retention.



I use arimidex but you'll get differing opinions on both...and both are good. Start from Day - 1



HCG or HCGEnerate is run mid-cycle and as a bridge into PCT.



Very impressive stats and well planned. Asking questions and having everything lined up in advance is a smart move.

Thanks for the advise mate. My diet will certainly be in check!!

With the test cyp, would you advise taking another AAS the first day 1-4 weeks until the cyp takes effect??

Would I need to run HCG as well as the OTC HCGenerate? Or is it essentially the same thing??

 

[SayMilesAway]

Thanks for the advise mate. My diet will certainly be in check!!

With the test cyp, would you advise taking another AAS the first day 1-4 weeks until the cyp takes effect??

Would I need to run HCG as well as the OTC HCGenerate? Or is it essentially the same thing??

You could run dbol for the first 4 weeks.

 

[EZ_E]

Thanks for the advise mate. My diet will certainly be in check!!

With the test cyp, would you advise taking another AAS the first day 1-4 weeks until the cyp takes effect??

Would I need to run HCG as well as the OTC HCGenerate? Or is it essentially the same thing??

I'm not a big fan of "kick starts" and I think that "waiting for XXX to kick in" is overrated.

But agreed with above, d-bol or better yet t-bol could be a nice addition.

HCG & HCGen are essentially the same thing (or they're supposed to be)

Different guys will need different OCT's; I'm GTG with an AI and I take a baby aspirin to combat high blood pressure. May take a little trial & error to establish YOUR protocol.

 

[ajtaylor3003]

Thanks for the advice guys!! Going to get my my products and start in a few weeks. Looking forward to it!

 

[trap1738]

Dbol will bloat you but would be a good choice. I just finished a 10week Test Prop/Acetate cycle the pinning got old but results were fantastic. My last two weeks I went E3D my levels were consistent so it didn't effect me. Gains kept coming in. Add nolvadex and you'll be fine.