First Cycle test e help

[somedayXLmuscles]

Alright guys decided its time for my first cycle. Test only being my first cycle, maybe a SARM also.

Im 24, 5'6", 170 lbs, at about 10% BF. I have a very strict clean dieting protocol and am taking in 3240 calories a day. 40% carb, 35% protein, 25% Fats. Been training for 8 years. Bodybuilding then switched to powerlifting/strength training in Jan 2013. Trying to decide if its time to return to BB or keep on getting strong!

What I'm thinking is:

Test E 500mg split into 2 250mg pins sunday/thursday.

Clomid for PCT. (Could use input on dosing.) Starting cycle today!

I have letro on hand and also am really interested in how gw/ostarine should be used with test e.

Any input? Dosing opinions? Kick start opinions? Also I'm gyno prone I found with multi compound prohormones. Thanks bros!

 

[somedayXLmuscles]

First pin went smooth. No pain, little bit hard to reach gluteal pin but definitely worth it id say judging by what I've read on pain and knotting with quad pins

 

[Sandman93]

Here's a pct schedule for you.
10-14 days after last pin(I use unleashed during this time)
Clomid 50/50/25/25mg
Nolva 40/40/20/20mg
Ostarine 25mg Ed
Hcgenerate

Make sure your protecting your liver

 

[maikolo]

Whst you using for AI?

 

[Vast]

How long is your cycle?

 

[somedayXLmuscles]

Here's a pct schedule for you.
10-14 days after last pin(I use unleashed during this time)
Clomid 50/50/25/25mg
Nolva 40/40/20/20mg
Ostarine 25mg Ed
Hcgenerate

Make sure your protecting your liver

I should take clomid and nolva both? I forgot to update it but I also aquired some Protex and pct 3x from strong supplement shop.

 

[maikolo]

So did you take a AI? Adex or aromasin during your cycle? Any sides?

 

[somedayXLmuscles]

Whst you using for AI?

I have letrozole from element. I was planning on only using it if i need to, my understanding is if you can avoid an AI during first cycle without side effects to do so.

 

[somedayXLmuscles]

How long is your cycle?

10 weeks

 

[somedayXLmuscles]

Well I'm 2 weeks in, done a total of 4 pins 250 mg each. Haven't noticed much besides I just feel good mood wise, and possibly reduced recovery time (could be the GW?). I have zero pain, knotting, etc when I pin (good thing or bunk junk?). Like I said been running 250 mg/twice a week, plus I'm doing 20 mg of GW ed split into 2/10mg doses, and protex. Feeling solid with high energy levels.

My question is regarding PCT and letrozole. Will the following suffice for PCT starting 2 weeks after last pin? Or should I start any of the compounds earlier?

Clomid 50/50/25/25mg (takes ed or?)
Ostarine 25mg ed
Pct 3x from strong sup shop


Also regarding letro, I have letrozole (liquid form) from element on hand, I have some pre existing gyno from a previous pro hormone cycle. How can I take letro to reduce/banish this pre existing condition? I have it already on hand so I prefer to use it over something else.

Thanks for the help EF bros, really excited too see results at the end of this cycle!

 

[Wolf123]

Two weeks is early to see definitive feed back from injectables... Typically by week 4 it's hard to miss. No pain in your injection sites is normal. If shit hurts or bruises badly, with a few exceptions, it's poor quality product with insufficient solvents. You could investigate pinning in your delt with a 5/8" needle if the glute is tough to reach. It's easy to get to and you aren't pinning too much volume.

Watch the Letro... the stuff is an elephant gun for estrogen, it can wipe you right out. I prefer Arimidex which keeps things lowered, but not full stop. No estrogen in your system slows your growth and can make a mess of your sex life too.

Your pre-existing gyno, how long have you had it? I've never heard of rolling back the clock on gyno once it's set up shop... except for surgery. If it hasn't gone away after your break, I don't know if nuking your estrogen will reverse it.

Re your PCT, look up the half life of your AAS... In this case it will be simple, but its good to know where to look. When you start stacking you need to hold out till the end of the longest half life in your cycle. Otherwise you're wasting your PCT. TestE has a half life of about 10 days. Sustenon by comparison is built to last and has a half life of 18 days... IMHO for your first cycle and test only for 10 weeks, you don't need more than Clomid OR Nolva. Resist the urge to use test boosters which can skew your body's reaction and slow down recuperation. Your goal is to get back to "normal" to protect your gains, not create a new artificial high.

 

[Letsgetswole]

Where do u get your test e from?

 

[Letsgetswole]

Looking for a reasonable site, wanna try it for the first time after over 20 yrs. natural thinking about test E and dbol to kick start for about 8 weeks max. 6'feet 195lbs 39 yrs. slim build was always a hard gainer

 

[Letsgetswole]

Just looking for a little guidance new to this thanks?

 

[bigorse]

Looking for a reasonable site, wanna try it for the first time after over 20 yrs. natural thinking about test E and dbol to kick start for about 8 weeks max. 6'feet 195lbs 39 yrs. slim build was always a hard gainer

starr your own thread man

 

[wootoom]

Looking for a reasonable site, wanna try it for the first time after over 20 yrs. natural thinking about test E and dbol to kick start for about 8 weeks max. 6'feet 195lbs 39 yrs. slim build was always a hard gainer

First off, you're are too young. Second, make a new thread. Third, this isn't a source board

 

[bigorse]

First off, you're are too young. Second, make a new thread. Third, this isn't a source board

he said hes 39 and been training 20 years man, i think 39 is well and truly old enough

 

[wootoom]

he said hes 39 and been training 20 years man, i think 39 is well and truly old enough

My bad, I misread and thought he was 20 years old lol

 

[somedayXLmuscles]

Two weeks is early to see definitive feed back from injectables... Typically by week 4 it's hard to miss. No pain in your injection sites is normal. If shit hurts or bruises badly, with a few exceptions, it's poor quality product with insufficient solvents. You could investigate pinning in your delt with a 5/8" needle if the glute is tough to reach. It's easy to get to and you aren't pinning too much volume.

Watch the Letro... the stuff is an elephant gun for estrogen, it can wipe you right out. I prefer Arimidex which keeps things lowered, but not full stop. No estrogen in your system slows your growth and can make a mess of your sex life too.

Your pre-existing gyno, how long have you had it? I've never heard of rolling back the clock on gyno once it's set up shop... except for surgery. If it hasn't gone away after your break, I don't know if nuking your estrogen will reverse it.

Re your PCT, look up the half life of your AAS... In this case it will be simple, but its good to know where to look. When you start stacking you need to hold out till the end of the longest half life in your cycle. Otherwise you're wasting your PCT. TestE has a half life of about 10 days. Sustenon by comparison is built to last and has a half life of 18 days... IMHO for your first cycle and test only for 10 weeks, you don't need more than Clomid OR Nolva. Resist the urge to use test boosters which can skew your body's reaction and slow down recuperation. Your goal is to get back to "normal" to protect your gains, not create a new artificial high.

Would the armidex help the flare up? Also if I ran letro at extremely low dosage just to stop the flare up would that completely wipe me out? Like 1-1.5 mg eod tapered down to 0 after couple weeks? Thanks for the help man