First Cycle....Susaton 250 and winstrol

[broncosstoa]

So I started my first cycle 19 days ago and I just wanted to get some advise. I will first go over my stats. i'm 35 years old, 6'6 and 275 pounds, 18% body fat. I have been working out serously for 4 years, with one setback a year ago when I had a slight tear in my rotator . My goals for this cycle are to gain some lean, hard muscle, while losing body fat. my diet is in check. I break it down to 350g of protein, 300g carbs, and 50g of fat.

I hit the gym 5 days a week. Chest and Tri's, Back and Bi's, Shoulders and Calves, and Quads and Hams. Cardio 3 days a week for 30-45 mins. Abs every gym day.

My cycle is
Weeks 1-4 Susaton 350mg/week (1 amp every 5 days)
Weeks 5-12 Susaton 500mg/week
Weeks 1-12 winstrol 50mg every day (oral)

Pct will start 2 weeks after last Susaton shot
2 weeks on Nolvadex at 20mg a day
3 weeks on Nolvadex at 10mg a day

I have been taking milk thistle and Tyler's Liver detox.



The first 2 weeks on the cycle, nothing happened except a few pounds of water weight, but the last few days I have started to develop chest acne and my strength and recovery time has gone up. It seems like my body is starting to recompose itself and i'm down to 16% body fat.

Last night, I was doing back and bi's and I thought my forarms were going to explode the pump on them was so intense.

I'm open to all sugestions. Should I add arimidex? Should I take a few weeks off of the winstrol mid-cycle?

Thanks

 

[broncosstoa]

btw.... sorry for the speeling errors, forgot to spell check.

 

[jmat2407]

So I started my first cycle 19 days ago and I just wanted to get some advise. I will first go over my stats. i'm 35 years old, 6'6 and 275 pounds, 18% body fat. I have been working out serously for 4 years, with one setback a year ago when I had a slight tear in my rotator . My goals for this cycle are to gain some lean, hard muscle, while losing body fat. my diet is in check. I break it down to 350g of protein, 300g carbs, and 50g of fat.

I hit the gym 5 days a week. Chest and Tri's, Back and Bi's, Shoulders and Calves, and Quads and Hams. Cardio 3 days a week for 30-45 mins. Abs every gym day.

My cycle is
Weeks 1-4 Susaton 350mg/week (1 amp every 5 days)
Weeks 5-12 Susaton 500mg/week
Weeks 1-12 winstrol 50mg every day (oral)

Your wasting that sust running that kind of dosage, you should of just ran test e or c. Also there is no need to ramp up. Start with 500mg/week from week 1 and keep it there all cycle. DO NOT take winny for all 12 weeks. Repect your liver. Take the winny 50 mg/day for the last 6 weeks of the cycle. Winstrol fucks up your joints/coll/lipids so you better get some support supplements, I HIGHLY recommend N2GUARD over your milk thistle and liver detox.

Pct will start 2 weeks after last Susaton shot
2 weeks on Nolvadex at 20mg a day
3 weeks on Nolvadex at 10mg a day

That is a WEAK pct. After experiencing it first hand I hate nolva. It is a libido killer. I recommend 4 weeks of..

clomid 25mg/day
dorma stanzol 5 pumps am & pm
post cycle/unleashed combo pack

follow up with bridge




I have been taking milk thistle and Tyler's Liver detox.



The first 2 weeks on the cycle, nothing happened except a few pounds of water weight, but the last few days I have started to develop chest acne and my strength and recovery time has gone up. It seems like my body is starting to recompose itself and i'm down to 16% body fat.

Last night, I was doing back and bi's and I thought my forarms were going to explode the pump on them was so intense.

I'm open to all sugestions. Should I add arimidex? Should I take a few weeks off of the winstrol mid-cycle?

No do not get arimidex. Pick up another bottle of forma stanzol from Mrsupps.com and take 4-6 pumps twice daily. It will control bloat and reduce estrogen much better than arimidex, not to mention it has a lot of other good properties.

Thanks

Bold.

 

[25homes]

Way too long on winny you be lucky if your liver doesn't fall out week 6...just run winny last 5 weeks..winny won't be much help til you get your bf down to close to single digits anyway

 

[25homes]

I think you fine ramping sust cause it will take few weeks for it to fully kick in

 

[jmat2407]

Way too long on winny you be lucky if your liver doesn't fall out week 6...just run winny last 5 weeks..winny won't be much help til you get your bf down to close to single digits anyway

Agreed. He would have been better off taking var, or just getting his bf lower b4 he started this cycle.

 

[broncosstoa]

Thanks for the help guys, I wanted to go on var, but it was just to damn much. I ordered the forma stanzol and the unleashed. I'm going to curb the winny, until week 8. Thanks guys.

 

[jmat2407]

I think you fine ramping sust cause it will take few weeks for it to fully kick in

Not really. Ramping up is just going to make it take longer. Either way tho running sust at that dose is a waste he should have ran a single ester test.

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

I have always wanted to try Sust-250 and break from my usual Prop + Enanthate, but I'm so conflicted because the esters in Sust contain Prop paired with very long acting ones, so I am just unsure if it is the best mixture possible when it's being injected once or even twice maximum per week. Please let me know any thoughts everyone has... the only reason I am considering it, is because someone I know personally once told me it was the only cycle of Test he ever ran where he fully felt like an animal and saw changes constantly - but perhaps his other Test cycles were bunk, because my theory is Test is Test.