First cycle for aspiring model

[jbrahh]

Hey guys looking for some advice on a first cycle

Bit of background:
-model prepping for this years portfolio update shoot
-currently studying sports science and nutrition at uni, iv also done extensive research and practise into nutrition and training.
-I've cut to 6% bf naturally so i know how to diet down, bulking is harder due to a fast metabolism and small appetite but i know how to do it

Stats:

Age: 21
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 160lbs
Bodyfat: 7% (skinfold tested)

2 years circuit training and athletics,
4 years of weight training and bodybuilding

Goal:
to be as big and full as i possibly can at 5-7% body fat at the time of my shoot, hopefully looking very chiselled from the var.

First Cycle:
Test Enanthate wks 1-12 - 400mg/wk
Anavar wks 7-12 ~ 60 mg/ed
nolvadex wks 14-18 - 40, 40, 20, 20 ed
clen 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off weeks 1-12

I'm using the var at the start of the cycle due to time restrictions. I might still change this depending on the date of the shoot. i would also consider dropping out the clen to increase the var dose to 75-80mg/ed, if this would lead to better results.

I'd be very keen to hear another opinion on this, is it too much for a first cycle? Keeping in mind i do this as a job and want to go as far as possible


Cheers for the help lads

 

[Reps For Jesus]

post a pic

 

[Zyglamail]

You claim you cant gain mass and you post a cycle with clen in it?

 

[jbrahh]

You claim you cant gain mass and you post a cycle with clen in it?

Its not that i cant gain mass, just that its significantly harder for me than shredding fat. This is why im open to suggestion about changing the clen for higher doses of the other compounds or perhaps a low dose of something else?

 

[Reps For Jesus]

What kind of modeling are you trying to do? A fashion model? Fitness Model? Post a pic

 

[jbrahh]

Currently doing a fair bit of fashion and underwear modelling, but the goal is to head towards fitness modelling and perhaps bodybuilding mens physique competitions since i enjoy the dieting down and training so much anyway

Btw that pic was about 3 weeks ago, iv lost 1-2% bodyfat since then according to the calipers

 

[nangiggles]

You're 20 and already running cycles?

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[Reps For Jesus]

you have good a shape, but still need to add more mass.. especially for the fitness model world. going to be an uphill battle trying to stay lean and adding size at the same time.

At 7% body fat, I would ditch any idea of the using clen. You are lean enough, you just need to put on size and get dry and hard. I would run Test and Masteron Prop, with either anavar or winstrol for 8 weeks. Anavar would put a bit more size and strength on you, but Winstrol would really dry you out.

I would go..

1-8 Test Prop 100 mg/eod
1-8 Mast Prop 150 mg/eod
1-8 Anavar 80 mg/day
1-8 Aromasin 12.5 mg/day

This should put 6-7 lean pounds on you with little to no fat gain, and no bloat from water.

 

[jbrahh]

You're 20 and already running cycles?

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"first cycle advice"
iv been training with weights since i was 14 and was competing athletic events such as swimming, sprinting, etc my whole life. theres no doubt that the guys who get on the gear are the guys who make it big, although I havent committed to it yet

 

[jbrahh]

you have good a shape, but still need to add more mass.. especially for the fitness model world. going to be an uphill battle trying to stay lean and adding size at the same time.

At 7% body fat, I would ditch any idea of the using clen. You are lean enough, you just need to put on size and get dry and hard. I would run Test and Masteron Prop, with either anavar or winstrol for 8 weeks. Anavar would put a bit more size and strength on you, but Winstrol would really dry you out.

I would go..

1-8 Test Prop 100 mg/eod
1-8 Mast Prop 150 mg/eod
1-8 Anavar 80 mg/day
1-8 Aromasin 12.5 mg/day

This should put 6-7 lean pounds on you with little to no fat gain, and no bloat from water.

I would love to run masteron as well but i think my current budget prevents that. Do you think its better to try push the shoot back until i can afford to get mast as well? thanks for the advice btw

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Well.. if that is the case. Run Test Prop, and Winstrol.

1-8 Test Prop - 100 mg/eod
1-8 Winstrol - 80 mg/day
1-8 Aromasin - 12.5 mg/day

If your body fat remains low, you should end up being a bit bigger, dry, and shredded.

I would work on your PCT a little bit. Nolva alone isn't going to cut it. I would think about something like this:

9-12 Clomid - 50/50/25/25
11-14 Nolva - 40/40/20/20
9-14 Aromasin - 12.5 mg/eod
11-14 Proviron - 25mg/day

9-14 D-AA - 3g/day
9-12 Unleashed - 2 serving

 

[jbrahh]

Well.. if that is the case. Run Test Prop, and Winstrol.

1-8 Test Prop - 100 mg/eod
1-8 Winstrol - 80 mg/day
1-8 Aromasin - 12.5 mg/day

If your body fat remains low, you should end up being a bit bigger, dry, and shredded.

I would work on your PCT a little bit. Nolva alone isn't going to cut it. I would think about something like this:

9-12 Clomid - 50/50/25/25
11-14 Nolva - 40/40/20/20
9-14 Aromasin - 12.5 mg/eod
11-14 Proviron - 25mg/day

9-14 D-AA - 3g/day
9-12 Unleashed - 2 serving

What's wrong with test cyp or enan as a base? if i bloat or get any gyno i could use nolva for a week or so until i can get arimidex (if i need it). I doubt my bodyfat will go up by so much as 1-2%, even if i go into a caloric surplus.
Would you say winny over var due to price or due to better results?

 

[Cipp21]

So you changed your age from 20 to 21?

You're not ready for gear

 

[jbrahh]

So you changed your age from 20 to 21?

You're not ready for gear

haha I'm 21 in a month (about the time i would start the cycle) i thought that would be a more appropriate answer?

 

[Jbranken]

If your budget won't allow for masteron, then It definitely won't allow for an extensive and proper pct which is extremely important at your age. PCT is much more important than the cycle itself. Diet, training, and how quickly you recover from steroid cycles will dictate how much of your gains you'll actually keep. Otherwise it's all for nothing.

You've barely busted your first nut and you're going to start messing with hormones. You'd better be sure this is exactly what you want because once you start cycling, your dick never works quite the same again.

 

[stevesmi]

1. we do not allow 20 year olds to discuss AAS on here. ... yeah you turn 21 in a month but sorry the rules are there for a reason.. next thing you know a 19 year old will post saying he will be 20 in a month.. then an 18 year old.. etc etc.

2. thanks for putting up a pic.. not sure what you are looking for.. you are just young and you don't eat enough. not sure what else we can do for you steroids are not the answer

I can put you on a natural cycle that will help you gain mass and a diet. just drop me a PM. but steroids are under no circumstance needed here

 

[Zyglamail]

Its not that i cant gain mass, just that its significantly harder for me than shredding fat. This is why im open to suggestion about changing the clen for higher doses of the other compounds or perhaps a low dose of something else?

I still dont get it, clen if for burning fat not adding mass. If your goal is to add mass then dont use clen at all.

Trying to stay lean while adding mass is going to be significantly more challenging than bulking and cutting but can certainly be done.

Before you entertain the idea of using AAS though, lets take a step back and look at some basics. What does your current workout look like?