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First cycle- Critique please

IronMCL

New member
Hey all,

First time posting here long time lurker.
I'm planning to take the dive and start AAS.

Stats:
Weight: 80kg/176LB
Height: 180cm/5ft10
Age: 21
BF: 16%? (ill let you be the judge)
Lifting exp: Almost 3 years (so say 1 and a half serious, diet in check etc)

What is your final goal? To compete
Cycle Experience (number of): 0

Proposed cycle:
Compound/dosage/duration 1: Test E 250mg 2/week mon/thurs for 12 weeks

PCT:
Start 2 weeks after last pin,
Nova : 20/20/20/20
Clomid : 100/100/50/50

How does this look?
Have I missed anything?
All feedback will be appreciated.

Cheers,
IronMCL

Also I've tried uploading a photo but it isnt seeming to work. Will try once thread goes up
 
Hey all,

First time posting here long time lurker.
I'm planning to take the dive and start AAS.

Stats:
Weight: 80kg/176LB
Height: 180cm/5ft10
Age: 21
BF: 16%? (ill let you be the judge)
Lifting exp: Almost 3 years (so say 1 and a half serious, diet in check etc)

What is your final goal? To compete
Cycle Experience (number of): 0

Proposed cycle:
Compound/dosage/duration 1: Test E 250mg 2/week mon/thurs for 12 weeks

PCT:
Start 2 weeks after last pin,
Nova : 20/20/20/20
Clomid : 100/100/50/50

How does this look?
Have I missed anything?
All feedback will be appreciated.

Cheers,
IronMCL

Also I've tried uploading a photo but it isnt seeming to work. Will try once thread goes up


your body fat is too high and your too young... you have no reason to juice right now man... your not in the proper scenario for it... trust me... at your body fat, your diet is nowhere near in check... why don't you look into sarms as opposed to using steroids? its a much better option for so many reasons....
 
It's amazing how many people think that the MORE serms they use, the better.

And I find it sad that the length of first cycles now exceed the length of pre competition cycles of the 70's. When did people need so much? And you're 21?

What ever happened to taking a couple of dbol for a couple of weeks to see what it's like?
 
^^^ yeah I agree, I lifted 13 years naturally before touching hormones. but what usually happens is a 'friend' gets them excited about it and they look up bullshit transformation before and afters and think that will happen to them. if guys would research instead how to improve their diet and training first they wouldn't need steroids at all at that age in the first place
 
This Is much more common now. I haven't been a member of a board for 8 years so my research has been topic specific. Now that I'm reading a wider range of threads, seeing the youngsters jumping in has increased significantly.

And, Ironmcl, I don't necessarily direct this at you. You seem to have a decent understanding of formulating a cycle but I've read back over 150 pages and the ass-hattery by young guys has increased.
 
Okay finished work for the day and just got home from the gym. Here are my replies:

dylangemelli: I understand and have read that a low bf % before starting AAS is much more beneficial. However, I have just came off my bulk. I did cheat too much on weekends and this is probably where I went wrong. I have fixed this area up since. I also understand that you may say I am too young, and you are probably right. Without sounding rude, it is my call in the end though. I am here just trying to get the best advice I can get. Since you mentioned SARMS I have done some research on them as to be quite honest I have not heard of SARMS in Australia. You have thrown me into a different ball game there with SERMS, they seem to have multiple benefits and less to no sides that steroids would have.

stevesmi: I will have photos at the bottom of this post. Also I appreciate your reply. I have been tossing and turning with the idea of using gear since 19 (I know its crazy). I feel I am ready to touch the waters. This is why I was proposing to start with a test only cycle.

Nelson Montana: Not sure if you are having a shot at me personally or the younger population generally. I dont want to take "a couple of dbol". I want to have a planned cycle with all the necessaries. PCT etc. With the PCT, feel free to enlighten me as to where I am going wrong. Ive researched and I have read yes they are both used for PCT and normally you would only pick the one. However, I want to do everything as safely as possible. I have read that Clomid helps to bring back natural test as nolva acts as an anti estrogen. As I said, I may be wrong here and this is one of the reasons for making this thread.

race121: It is extremely common. Your research does not surprise me, I only have to look around these days. It is much more evident. I appreciate your comment and I would like to think I have a decent understanding of formulating a cycle. I want to get things right from the start.

Legs are lacking, have been trying to work on them as of lately. Also poor lat shot but its all I got. Also mind the some of the surroundings, its my girlfriends house haha.

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