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FINA! Better for cutting or bulking?

Bam Bam

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As some of you guys might know I am going to begin my 8th or 9th cycle around April 15th. I am going to use test at 750 and d-bol at 40mgs day to start my cycle. I am also going to use either fina or eq. I have never used fina but I have always used eq with the same roids above. What I want to know is, is Fina be a better bulking drug than Eq with the test and d-bol. I am 5'8" 175, at about 9%(the fattest I've ever been). Thanks, BamBam
 
Fina is great for both bulking and cutting.... You wont notice quick strength gains with EQ like you will with the fina... If I were choosing one or the other I would hit the fina.

YUM
 
I've used it in cutting (precontest) and bulking cycles and it definitely works great with both. I would go for the Fina over the EQ unless you want to throw in both!
 
Fina is great for two main reasons: Get u hard in every cycle-great for cutting because slims you down, and forces u not to get fat during bulking cycle.
Great for strength gains, your strength sores.
 
Fina is better for both

Bam Bam said:
As some of you guys might know I am going to begin my 8th or 9th cycle around April 15th. I am going to use test at 750 and d-bol at 40mgs day to start my cycle. I am also going to use either fina or eq. I have never used fina but I have always used eq with the same roids above. What I want to know is, is Fina be a better bulking drug than Eq with the test and d-bol. I am 5'8" 175, at about 9%(the fattest I've ever been). Thanks, BamBam

I am going to have to request to make this web page a sticky for those newbies.

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/finaplix.htm

you will learn a lot from this page.

or you can hit http://mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles
 
Bam Bam said:
As some of you guys might know I am going to begin my 8th or 9th cycle around April 15th. I am going to use test at 750 and d-bol at 40mgs day to start my cycle. I am also going to use either fina or eq. I have never used fina but I have always used eq with the same roids above. What I want to know is, is Fina be a better bulking drug than Eq with the test and d-bol. I am 5'8" 175, at about 9%(the fattest I've ever been). Thanks, BamBam

i dont know if u bro's noticed but bam bam said this is going to be his 8th or 9th cycle and he only weighs 175lbs, something is wrong here guys,am i wrong? he should at leat weigh 200+
 
Bam Bam...I'm calling BS on the 8th or 9th cycle claim. 5'8" 175 is skinny in my book.
 
i agree there is something wrong...i didnt want to say anything but i guess i will jump on the bandwagon. i know many guys much bigger than that and they are natural.
 
4 or 5 at the most unless you are 30-40yrs of age and havent used in 5-10 years... other than that bro, 175lbs at 5'8" sounds too little for 9 cycles
 
My roommate at school is only about 5 pounds lighter than that (same height) and he's pretty much what I'd call a twig...

YUM
 
gilly6993 said:
Bam Bam...I'm calling BS on the 8th or 9th cycle claim. 5'8" 175 is skinny in my book.

What the hell is wrong with weighing 175 and having done more than 8 cycles?

Why do people stress on numbers so damn much?

I have several buddies that bulk up to 200 but then they diet down to 175 or so and they look BETTER and BIGGER than they were at 200.

So I don't know what the big deal here is!!!
 
Well 175 would be more reasonable if he started off at lets say 145. Not that it pertains to this thread, but what cycles have you done exactly and how much did you gain and lose from each. Just out of curiousity.
 
For all of you fuckers that say bullshit, Fuck you! I am 29 years old and I started juicing at the age of 20 in school. I have a bad habit of doing a cycle and then laying off of the weights afterwards. I go into a pretty bad depression stage when i am not on gear. I have done about 8 or 9 cycles over the last 10 years. I have gotten up as big as 18 at about 4% but when I came off, I stopped lifting. One reason I had to stop lifting in the past is due to my job. I worked pipeline construction and I traveled all over the country. My hours were six days a week and 12 to 14 hours a day. I no longer work pipeline construstion so i am hoping that I can maintain my gains after this cycle. Hey YUM! If you ar3e calling me a twig, FUCK YOU! I would be willing to post a pic right now if you want. I don't know how tall you are but I'm actually closer closer to 5'8" than 5'9". I am usually below 7% BF year round without dieting. So if you have any since you can probably come to the conclusion that my metabolism is extremely high and I have a problem maintaining weight after a cycle. I will bet you any dollar amount that you want that I pound for pound look better than you do. Anybody can bulk up and be fatass, but it's hard to stay lean year round. I will with out a doubt get to about 195 or 200 after this cycle without a problem. I was also offered the chance in my early 20's to compete. The gym I worked out at was going to sponser me. Do you think that they just sponser anybody? Another fact is that I have 17" arms right now and a 29" waist. IS that bullshit too? Anybody that don't believe me just tell me how to post a pic and then I will. Why the fuck would I want to lye about how many cycles I have taking. I could have said that I was on my second cycle, and that I weighed 225lbs at 5% and nobody would have ever questioned that. So what do you think YUM, do you want to compare pics? I will add that I did not complete every one oif my cycles but I did complete most of them. Thaks for the trust Freakmonster. BamBam
 
FreakMonster said:


What the hell is wrong with weighing 175 and having done more than 8 cycles?

Why do people stress on numbers so damn much?

I have several buddies that bulk up to 200 but then they diet down to 175 or so and they look BETTER and BIGGER than they were at 200.

So I don't know what the big deal here is!!!

Because it means that drugs are crutch.In fact its pathetic. Too many guys on here cant make gains without drugs-and usually lots of them. 8 or 9 cycles ? Fuck the juice and learn how to REALLY train and EAT!
 
People are afraid of:
-rack deadlifts
-floor deadlifts
-eating 400,500,0r 600+ grams of protein a day
-using rest/pause training for ball busting intensity instead of using all Hammer Strength shit.
- trying to make any gains without drugs
 
Bam Bam said:
. I am 5'8" 175, at about 9%(the fattest I've ever been). Thanks, BamBam

Start eating. Guys who are worried about their bodyfat all of time will never get anywhere size wize.
And I hear all of the time--"I eat alot". Try 500-600 grams of protein a day.
 
Above I meant that I have been as big as 188. Audio 8, you said I would have to start out at 145. I actually started at about 150 in college. So I have put on about 20 to 25 lbs of solid muscle in the past few years. Kneepads, Steroids is a crutch? You don't use them? What we need to do is have a contest on this board. Set a date and then everybody post pics to see who the real body builders are. I have been around this board for close to 2 years even though my posts don't show it. I always hear people talking shit about how big they are and how everybody else is a "twig". But nobody ever post pics. In fact the only few people who do post pics are the ones who don't run off at the mouth. I know Im not the biggest fucker on this board but I would rate up there in the top pound for pound. I also have a lot of experience with drugs like sust, eq, sten and enanethate. Although I don't know the axact sciences, I do knnow alot about bulk cycles. What do you guys say, contest anybody? I don't usually flame anybody or talk shit to anybody on this board. You little fuckers have a lot of nerve calling me a fucking liar. BamBam
 
Your_Moms_Kneepads said:
Because it means that drugs are crutch.In fact its pathetic. Too many guys on here cant make gains without drugs-and usually lots of them. 8 or 9 cycles ? Fuck the juice and learn how to REALLY train and EAT!


Not everyone uses drugs as a crutch. Some guys just have shitty ass genetics and have a hard time gaining weight EVEN WITH JUICE.

Why do you automatically think that someone that has done 8 cycles has to be 225 and if they are not at 225 they are using drugs as a crutch?

I think you are generalizing too much.
 
I will be back about 10p.m. tonight to see what Gilly and YUM have to say about calling we a twig and a liar. I offer the deal to you to GILLY6993. Post a pic, and lets see how fucking big you are since you like calling me a liar! Maxes 21, put your money where your mouth is and post a picture. BamBam
 
i am not calling you a twig or a liar. but i do think there is something wrong with you. i know many guys that are just like you. they cant train and eat properly unless they are "on". you really need to get over this. maybe this time around will be better. i really dont think you need gear, u should be able to get to 200 without gear. you can see my pic, it is to the left. i dont care if you are ready for a contest at that weight it is still a little small and i think that is what the guys are saying, they are not trying to put you down. just use it as fuel and dont quit this time.
 
anyway. back to the topic...what have you decided to go with bam bam?

Post your projected cycle so we can critique. I enjoy cycle-critiquing...i think ultragainz does too :)
 
Sorry too fly off of the handle but I don't deserve to be called a liar or a twig. And JC21 I didn't accuse you of either one. However, if you'll notice. Gilly and YUM havn't responded. Audio8 you say that something is wrong with me because I can't eat or train properly if I'm not on gear. It happens to a lot of people I heard. Dan Duchaine actually mentions it in one of his books. Thanks to all of the positive reponses from most of the guys. I still want to see pics from gilly6993 and YUM. Also, what are your stats Gilly and YUM. I think there are something like 27000 members on the boards. (Is that Right?) I would be willing to bet that I am in the top 10% percent of all bodybuilders on this board. I feel like I'm a pretty good on this board. I try to help when i can and I rarely flame anybody. So why would someone want to call me a liar(Gilly). Anyway I'm tired of fucking with you little pricks ( Gilly and YUM) and the offer stands anytime about posting pics. We'll let the board decide who is the biggest most ripped mother fucker. I'll post anytime you guys get ready. Until you guys post, you need to quit calling people bullshit artists and twigs. If you guys decide you don't want to post, i will be posting anyway around the middle of April, before I start my cycle. So you can decide for yourself whether I'm stilla twig or a liar. Heres my cycle for Audio8. Im going to bulk and then lean up with cutter s at the end. Some people will say this cycle isn't worth a fuck and that it won't do my little ass any good. I however will prove everyone different, It's what I live for.

1. Test 750****d-bol 40****fina 75 ed
2. Test 750****d-bol 40****fina 75 ed
3. Test 750****d-bol 40****fina 75 ed
4. Test 750****d-bol 40****fina 75 ed
5. Test 750***anavar 50****fina 75 ed
6. Test 750***anavar 50****fina 75 ed
7. Test 750***anavar 50****eq 400
8. Test 750***anavar 50****eq 400
9. primo 400***anavar 50***eq 400
10. primo 400**anavar 50***eq 400
11. primo 400**anavar 50***eq 400
12. primo 400**anavar 50***eq 400
13. clomid therapy. Creatine starting in week 5, all the liver helpers. liquidex starting in week 7(maybe) There it is, I think this will be a kickass cycle. One of the mods who is a good bro laid out the basic outline and I changed a few things. BamBam
 
Just what I thought Gilly, you are a newbie. You just came to this board in January and you are already calling bullshit. I call bullshit to you, you little pussy. You probably got 350 posts by bumping everyone elses posts. Fuck You!. To all the other bros who have to read this bullshit I am sorry. I can't stand to be called a liar though. BamBam
 
Being ripped doesn't mean much unless you're competing. Bam Bam, you call these people little fuckers? The average size of the people on this board are over 200, and got there naturally before they started taking AS. You're taking all of this way too personally.
 
i like the cycle bam bam. the only thing i would do differently is start the eq week 3. that way it is going for 10 weeks. i dont see a point in doing it any shorter.
 
I'm the same height, just finshed 2nd cycle(half of the gear in it was fake), and I'm 215lbs at 10%. If I did 8 or 9 cycles, I expect to be over 240-250lbs, doesn't sound right to me.
 
Bam Bam, I just read your responses a little closer, and dude you need to relax. This is the internet and not everyone will have the same opinion as you. And I have posted pics and even have one in my avatar
 
There was just a post for this same thing 5 days ago.

Fina is an excellent drug but can be harsh. It builds and hardens like no other. Its 3X as powerful as test per mg.
 
Bam Bam said:
Audio8 you say that something is wrong with me because I can't eat or train properly if I'm not on gear.

and when exactly did i say this? I think you got me mixed up with someone else bro. Not once on this thread have I said anything negative about you or your situation.


anyway, you're cycle looks pretty killer. I would change a few things though. First, I would use your liquidex from day one at .5mg ED or EOD. also, I would wait longer to start the clomid...you should wait atleast 3 weeks after your last EQ shot before starting up clomid. To solve this problem, begin with EQ FIRST, then switch over to fina, as fina's half-life is much shorter than that of EQ (like 1 day compared to 12 days....roughly)....this way all the drugs will leave your system about the same time so you can properly begin your clomid therapy.

Goodluck.
 
fina, winny eq are great. used fina for bulking and for cutting. by the way I am way past my 8th cycle am 5'4 and weigh at my largest 182 and compete under 162. My avatr taken from the north Texas I weigh 139 and trust me I am big just have 100% quality muscle. Lee Labrada on stage was 185 and as I recal maxed out at 205 at the same height as me. Point is weight is not as important as being built to 100% perfection. I am very big in person though my weight would say otherwise. I choose to not be over 200 though I know I could because I would look like shit.
 
flexed1 said:
fina, winny eq are great. used fina for bulking and for cutting. by the way I am way past my 8th cycle am 5'4 and weigh at my largest 182 and compete under 162. My avatr taken from the north Texas I weigh 139 and trust me I am big just have 100% quality muscle. Lee Labrada on stage was 185 and as I recal maxed out at 205 at the same height as me. Point is weight is not as important as being built to 100% perfection. I am very big in person though my weight would say otherwise. I choose to not be over 200 though I know I could because I would look like shit.

Your looking good bro. Do you stay pretty lean all year round?
 
never more than 10% with me. I will be on stage 15 pounds heavier than my last show by staying lean all year and I am much thicker and bigger in the quads. My waist in pants never goes above 28 though my legs won't fit in normal jeans so I size them up to 29-30 to get them over my legs.
 
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