Fat Guy Sues Junkfood Companies

[VballPlayer]

This is off the subject of AS and I apologize for that but it kind of relates to some of the topics and discussions lately about TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS. Well, now I have heard everything, first people sue the cigarette companies because they are getting cancer (DUHHHH, not shit you get cancer from smoking) now I just heard on the radio on NPR (National Public Radio) that some fat guy junk food junkie is suing a variety of junk food companies because he is FAT. Well, no shit you are fat you eat Twinkies 4 times a day and washed it down with a McDonalds milk shake. I am not a hater or anything like that but when you shovel McNuggets, Fritos and Cup Cakes into your face all day everyday do not complain or blame anyone else because you are fat, don’t complain when you have to pay for two seats on a plane, you are the one who eat the 2 large Dominos Extra Cheese with Pepperonis and Sausage Thick Crust Pizza 5 days in a row (I also love how fat people always follow their order with, “Oh yes and a diet coke.” Like that is going to help, but that is off the subject) Anyway, I just thought this was ridiculous and it kind of relates to some of the discussions that have been going on. FRIGIN FAT PEOPLE. No offense to any fatties on this board, obviously you are all in just your bulking phase.

 

[jc21]

the sad thing is he will probably win some money.

 

[dzuljas]

being fat is cool sometimes......but not to the point of nastyness, this guy needs to get his sorry slob ass into the gym

 

[Sassy69]

Ignorance is uglier than fat.

 

[Nutri-Wrestler]

anyone seen the movie seven? Someone needs to chain this fat bastard to a chair and feed him ravioli till his intestines and stomach give way and he hemorrhages.

Ross

 

[Lush]

I know- it's fucking retarded.

Like we had some lady here an Canada a year or 2 ago who sued Air Canada (i think it was AC...) cuz they charged her for 2 seats.

And she won, and the court said obeseity is a "disability".

hello? She used 2 seats so fucking pay for 2 fat-ass. if you don't want to take up 2 seats don't be so fat.



and my apologies to any large bro's on the board

 

[genarr3]

This suit will go nowhere, someone is trying to get thier ten minutes of fame.

 

[swampmoose]

HHHHMMMMMM

I wonder what he will do with that money???

 

[serge]

the sad thing is he will probably win some money.

if he wins, i will go onto an "extreme bulking cycle", suewing many, many food manufacturers/distributors/restaurants along the way to pay for my gear

 

[Dan2232]

This suit will go nowhere, someone is trying to get thier ten minutes of fame.

I hope you're right, but I'm afraid that this is just the first. There's alot of money to be made, and if the first one isn't successfull, the next one might be.

I figure that they'll keep making changes to the wording of the lawsuits, and eventually find a jury of porkers that may be sympathetic.

My parents bought me my first happy meal. Maybe I can sue them. I got the first ones free, and when I was hooked, I had to start paying for them myself. Damn pushers !!

The automakers are making those cup holders bigger and bigger. They're enabling me. I think I might go after them to !

 

[swampmoose]

there was a chick who took her daughter to McDonalds drive through in my home town, and her daughter ordered a happy meal because she wanted the toy. after placing there order and paying, they drove off. Well, as little suzie was biting into her hamburger she pulls out this used magnum Trojan condom. this Mcdonald went out of business about six months later.
moral of the story: People will sue you for anything

 

[Magnússon]

This shit makes me sick

 

[VballPlayer]

there was a chick who took her daughter to McDonalds drive through in my home town, and her daughter ordered a happy meal because she wanted the toy. after placing there order and paying, they drove off. Well, as little suzie was biting into her hamburger she pulls out this used magnum Trojan condom. this Mcdonald went out of business about six months later.
moral of the story: People will sue you for anything

Well, I might have sued in this case too. F@#&*% a used nasty dirty condom. YUCK!!!

 

[nautica]

Guys George actually predicted this 3 or 4 months ago in one of his post. I will see if I can find it. George if you around why dont you repost it.

Nautica

 

[CYCLEON]

Obesity Cited in Fast Food Suit
Fri Jul 26,12:09 PM ET

NEW YORK (AP) - A man sued four leading fast food chains, claiming he became obese and suffered from other serious health problems from eating their fatty cuisine.

Caesar Barber, 56, filed a lawsuit Wednesday in Bronx Supreme Court, naming McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King and Kentucky Fried Chicken.

"They said `100 percent beef.' I thought that meant it was good for you," Barber told Newsday. "I thought the food was OK."

"Those people in the advertisements don't really tell you what's in the food," he said. "It's all fat, fat and more fat. Now I'm obese."

Barber, a 5-foot-10 maintenance worker who weighs 272 pounds, had heart attacks in 1996 and 1999 and has diabetes, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. He said he ate fast food for decades, believing it was good for him until his doctor cautioned him otherwise.

"The fast food industry has wrecked my life," Barber told the New York Post.

Barber said there is no history of heart disease or diabetes in his family. He said he started eating fast food in the 1950s because it was cheap and efficient.

His lawyer, Samuel Hirsch, said the restaurants should list ingredients on their menus.

"There is direct deception when someone omits telling people food digested is detrimental to their health," Hirsch said.

The four chains have been providing nutritional information, including carlorie and fat content, of their meals for many years.

Steven Anderson, chief executive and president of the National Restaurant Association, called Barbers claim "senseless and baseless."

"Obviously the lawsuit is a blatant attempt to capitalize on the recent publicity and news stories on the growing rates of obesity," he said.

 

[macDbol]

ppl are fat for a reason,,i don tbuy the slow metabolism,slow thyriod bullshit fat ppl use. Granted some might have those problems,,,but why is it that they only live in america?

 

[blastingthru]

Like we had some lady here an Canada a year or 2 ago who sued Air Canada (i think it was AC...) cuz they charged her for 2 seats.

There are cases with this idea pending here in the good 'ol USA as well. I don't remember the details; I wanna say it was Delta airlines that charged some fat ass lady for two seats. What I am trying to understand is how is it our fault for everyone elses problem. The people suing want bigger seats because they think it is the airline's fault that they can't fit. Are you kidding? You are a fat shit and it's my fault. Same goes for this lazy fuck who thinks McDonalds is addictive.... Oh shit, this guy nailed it; Big Macs are laced with nicotine...thats why I can't stop eating them

Sorry for the rant, but this is something that I have a huge problem with; people who are just plain lazy and are convinced that it is someone elses fault!

No offense to any big bros here on the board; the reason you are here is probably to learn and change anyway.

...Just a thought...

 

[ThunderGod66]

The biggest problem in this world is that people can't take responsibilities for their own actions.

It's not a disability...that's BS...it's a choice. Someone that's blind has a disability, they didn't choose to not be able to see. Fat people choose to eat...accept the consequences of overeating.

Imagine a plane is full, and some huge fat person buys 1 ticket...and that ticket is next to you. Being a bodybuilding board, I'm sure most of us can barely fit in that seat as it is. So what happens now, the fat person takes your seat because they can't fit in theirs. No way. Either fit, get 2 seats, or get out. No special treatment.

By the way, if that guy wins any money...I give up on this country. Lawsuits should be illegal

"They said `100 percent beef.' I thought that meant it was good for you," Barber told Newsday. "I thought the food was OK."

Gee, you'd think that weighing 272 pounds and having 2 heart attacks...in 1996 and 1999 would make you realize that something you're doing isn't right.

 

[TraxZBT]

Yeah i read this story too.. Fat fuck needs money and doesn't know who to blame but the fast food restaurants. Did anyone read his quote? "They said it was 100% real beef, I thought it was supposed to be healthy for you." He's a dumbfuck and will never see any money out of this. If anything I'd sue his ass for wasting my time reading the damn article. Fuck it, I'll just sue him for being a FAT ASS LARD and making me sick... see how he likes it.

 

[me2dammit]

Hey

Lee preist could have done this last of season and THEN did the ad for muscle tech. Remember that picture of him at about 300 with the cake and shit? LOL

As I always said, no personal responsibility is left in this country. How is it thier fault you are a fat fuckin disgusting no self control having pig? Hey, who the fuck wants to sit near a 5'4" 300 lb woman? The bitch needs 2 seats. Pay for 2 or go on a fucking diet, the person next to you shouldn't have to pay for your fucking lack of self control!!!!!!!

Its sad that are system is clogged up with such silly shit. Disclaimers on everything and people still get sued.

The world is going to hell in a handbag and with the new international world court claiming the ability to put any human being on trial in the world, shit can only get worse.

Each one of the lawsuits chip away at personal freedom and personal responsibility til there will be no one left to blame.

 

[nautica]

Found it: Post by George

You're Fat, Who Can You Sue? (post #1)

Thursday January 24 10:52 AM EST

By Geraldine Sealey ABCNEWS.com
What if you could sue someone because you're fat?

So we're fat - 61 percent of us. We're gluttons, supersizing our fries and indulging in whopper-sized cinnamon buns at the mall.


But obesity is not just an American image crisis — it's fast becoming our most serious public health problem. Indeed, obesity now rivals smoking in its deadliness and is linked to diseases such as type-2 diabetes, heart disease, and certain types of cancer.

An estimated 300,000 Americans die each year from fat-related causes, and we spent $117 billion in obesity-related economic costs just last year, U.S. Surgeon General David Satcher reported last month.

Conventional wisdom says our obesity stems from laziness, lack of willpower or a fast-paced lifestyle that prevents healthy eating and exercise. We already spend up to an estimated $50 billion a year on diet and weight loss products — are we really just not trying hard enough?

While individuals surely bear responsibility for what they eat and whether they move, some nutrition and legal experts say we may not be entirely at fault.

Some say the food industry — particularly fast food, vending machine and processed food companies — should be held accountable for playing a role in the declining health of the nation, just as the tobacco industry ultimately was forced to bear responsibility for public health costs associated with smoking in its landmark $206 billion settlement with the states.

Although no one is taking such legal action against the food industry, nutrition and legal experts say it is reasonable to think that someday, it may come to that.

"There is a movement afoot to do something about the obesity problem, not just as a visual blight but to see it in terms of costs," says John Banzhaf, a George Washington University Law School professor.

The Case for Fat Suits

Most public health experts agree that regulations or taxes would be better than legal action, but they are mindful that after years of going after Big Tobacco, anti-smoking forces only achieved success when plaintiffs and lawyers stepped in.

No matter how it happens, though, nutrition activists say corporate America must bear some responsibility for obesity.

They point to a David and Goliath-like imbalance between the government's nutrition education spending and the food industry's $30 billion advertising budget. Only 2 percent of the industry's ad dollars go to promote fruits, vegetables, whole grains and beans, according to watchdog group Center for Science in the Public Interest. Most ads lure Americans toward high-fat, high-calorie, large-portion food.

While McDonald's reportedly spent $500 million on the "We love to see you smile" ad campaign, the National Cancer Institute (news - web sites)'s "5-a-Day" campaign spends about $1 million a year to promote eating five daily servings of fruits and vegetables.

The government's entire budget on nutrition education is estimated at just a fifth of the advertising budget for Altoids mints, says Marion Nestle, a New York University professor and author of the soon-to-be released Food Politics: How the Food Industry Manipulates What We Eat to the Detriment of Our Health.

"It's not fair," Nestle said. "People are confronted with food in every possible way to eat more. The function of the food industry is to get people to eat more, not less."

Targeting Saturday Morning Fare

The purpose behind suing food companies would be both philosophical and economic and resembles the logic of the tobacco litigation, explains Banzhaf, who helped craft the tobacco lawsuits. "If there are products the use of which cause large costs, grave costs, it is better that the burden of those costs fall on people who use and make the products rather than third parties or the general public," he said.

For some, it may be difficult to buy the argument that companies should be blamed for what adults eat. For that reason, some health experts suggest that a campaign against marketing junk food to children would be more successful, just as the anti-smoking forces went after Joe Camel ads.

Four out of five food ads market products attractive to kids, CSPI says, such as sugary cereal, snack food, soft drinks and fast food.

For years, nutrition activists have attempted, unsuccessfully, to get junk food ads off Saturday morning television, long the domain of commercials featuring kid-friendly characters hawking sugary, high-calorie foods.

Junk food in schools has also been the longtime bane of many nutrition experts. Although school lunches must meet federal dietary standards, vending machines and snack bars are not required to withstand nutritional scrutiny and often bring multi-million dollar contracts between corporations and school districts.

"Certainly, fast food is marketed overtly to children and my guess is if you looked closely around the internal documents of the fast food industry and processed food industry it would shock me if they didn't have very sophisticated studies about their consumers," said Richard Nagareda, Vanderbilt University Law School professor. "Whether you can take that to the level of a successful lawsuit is not so clear."

Message from Government: 'Just Do It'

For its part, the food industry claims that its products are not directly linked to obesity and have pointed to Americans' lack of exercise as a major factor contributing to our fatness. Less than a third of all Americans exercise as much as doctors advise.

The American Dietetic Association also stresses that a healthy diet depends on variety, balance and moderation for all foods and beverages, and does not recommend restricting specific foods or ingredients for weight management.

Even surgeon general Satcher did not recommend policy changes aimed at the food industry when he released his report last month, although he told an interviewer: "That doesn't mean Congress can't read the report and decide that we need it."

Instead, Satcher's report recommended that families, communities, businesses, the health care system and the media all work together to get America eating right and exercising. The official message from the government: It is our responsibility to stay healthy and help others to do so, too.

This message is especially pertinent in lower-income communities, then, where it is most often easier to find a greasy burger and fries than a fresh head of lettuce. According to the surgeon general, women of lower socioeconomic status are about 50 percent more likely to be obese than their better-off counterparts.

Smoking, Obesity Quite Different

Even those public health and legal experts who agree that corporations bear some measure of responsibility for American obesity say a viable strategy to hold the food industry liable in court does not yet exist.

After all, there are significant differences between the smoking and obesity epidemics.

Even if food industry practices play a role in obesity, surely other factors do, too — genetics, inactivity, television watching, and cultural differences, to name a few. "Lung cancer is caused by smoking," says Banzhaf. "When you get to eating, it's much more complex."

When used as sold and in moderation, cigarettes cause illness and death — this was a persuasive argument in the tobacco litigation. That argument doesn't hold up with food.

But perhaps the greatest barrier to launching lawsuits against the food industry is the public perception of obesity and its root causes, experts say.

"Because food is so familiar to us the risk perceptions are very different," said Margo Wootan, director of nutrition policy at CSPI. "We have emotional connections to food. Poor diet and a lack of activity kill as many people as tobacco but people don't think about it as being as deadly as tobacco."

Despite these challenges, some public health advocates still say corporations should — and will — ultimately bear some responsibility for the obesity epidemic.

"It will not be easy, but the public now sees the tobacco industry as having caused the epidemic of lung disease and cancer," said Tony Robbins, chair of family medicine and community health at Tufts University. "People need to be creative about this, but tobacco was no minor opponent, either."


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[ROLGOR]

No body beleived the cigarett companys could be sued but look what happened. They are going after gun companys and fast food. There are a number of things at play. #1 the trial attorneys have run amuck. They know they can become instant millionairs on these class action lawsuits whil their clients walk away with next to nothing. #2 this is a way for the politically correct minority to force their views on others. Americans would never pass a law against fast food, so the ones who don't want other people to eat it, legislate through the court system. Somthing the founding fathers never intended. #3 As many have already said No personal responsibilty. What do you expect from a society that gives murders, rapists and child molesters a few years in prison then allows them to go free to do it again. It's not their fault. It's their parents fault for not spanking them enough, or to much depending on the situation. We are teaching our kids to play sports with no winner/loser because we don't want to damage their self esteem. Like that will get them ready to deal with life. The people on this board understand the risk they take, They research and prepare in order to reduce those risks (except for a few but hey, thats what evolution is all about), Then they make a decision and don't try to blame everyone else for it. Hell maybe the rest of the country should use gear...lol

 

[liquidmuscle]

so does that mean we can sue Ttokkyo,denkall,tornel,brovel for me using their shit and getting liver probs or what have ya...give me a break you are grown you know the risks and if you say you didnt then you desrve what ya got

 

[Cold_Killer]

so does that mean we can sue Ttokkyo,denkall,tornel,brovel for me using their shit and getting liver probs or what have ya...give me a break you are grown you know the risks and if you say you didnt then you desrve what ya got

i can't believe you're comparing steroids to fast food. Those companies you mentioned all make vet grade roids, for animals not humans, fast food on the other hand is for humans.

 

[me2dammit]

well

I'll call my lawyer monday morning and sue the muscle mags and supplememnt industry for blatant false advertising and they are the reason to blame for my bigrexia!!!

The basis of my case will be how does a human being get down to 3% bodyfat while gaining 20lbs of muscle?!?!??!?!?!?

NATURALLY?????

This law suit would make better sense than this fast food shit, as we know all the spokespeople use gear(common sense) and that the codition they get to doesn't occur in nature, 3% bodyfat doesnt even happen to famine victims.

I look for it to be settled out of court for 1 million and a life time supply of supplememnts.

 

[pittbull2]

I hate to say it but fat people make me ill also, esp the ones that cant hardly walk there so fat you know they had to look in the mirror and see what was happening this didnt happen over night ,I just got back from a seafood buffet here in louisiana and just because i sat there and ate for 2 1/2 hours this fat lady that owns the place keeps looking over my way like you better stop eating all my food boy or i'm going to turn you over my knee and she weighs in at 450 atleast and she has the nerve to look at me and my wife and 9 year old we deplete there inventory quite a bit and she gets mad because she wont have as much left overs that pig. Shes prob on the class action against the fast food places hehe!!!! We call her miss cool-aid

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

After reading all this, I wanted to post to say that I hope that you reading this will not judge all fat people by the actions of one.

It is a little simplistic to say that advertising MADE you eat only one thing to the exclusion of anything else, or determined how much you ate.

While I do think the fast food industry is not appropriately forthcoming about what exactly is in its food or how it was produced, I think it deserves to be sued for other reasons than this.

Did you know that most fast food is so processed it doesn't taste like ANYTHING???? The flavor in fast food comes from CHEMICALS made in a LAB. Can that be good for people's health?

Did you know that the meat for fast food comes very cheap, because that is how the Big Corporations sell it at those low, low prices and their coffers therefore stay rich, and, um, fat? Because they have to sell meat at such low prices, the meat packing plants from which this meat comes run the butchering and packing lines so fast that they are dangerous for the workers, who are rushing to keep up with the lines with large and dangerous sharp instruments. Sanitation is nowhere near what it should be (witness the E. coli outbreaks we see from time to time), and the workers are poorly paid and just plain EXPLOITED. Meat packing is one of the most dangerous jobs in this country.

I don't even want to talk about what they feed beef cattle (and I know something about this, as I am a veterinarian and former animal science major) and how these animals are treated. I only go into a fast food restaurant as a last resort, if I am stuck somewhere and there is absolutely nowhere else for me to eat.

Yes, it IS unconscionable what these companies are doing, but you would never know that from their sunny ads on Saturday morning TV. I hope SOMEBODY takes a big chunk out of their pocketbooks, but I wish it were for the right reasons.

Having said that, I would like to point out that fat people don't become fat in a vacuum. It seems that the more pressure there is in our culture to be thin, the fatter we become. All this obesity is a relatively new phenomenon. If 60% of America were just fat lazy pigs by nature, and absolute personal liability for body shape and weight were a real fact, how is it that this just occurred in the past 20 years or so? Why weren't we always a nation of 60% fat lazy pigs?

Something has changed, and I don't think it is the character of your basic stock hardworking American. I know it's easy to look at someone, decide you know all about them in 2 seconds and sneer, but that's not the right way to do it, guys. How you treat people is just as much under YOUR control as our eating is under ours.

 

[MoreBeefPlease]

if he wins, where will this BS end?

 

[Guiness]

Someone should sue this fat fuck for wasting the already overburdened courts time and money. Blaming someone else for your own decision is bullshit.

 

[PatBateman]

if he wins, where will this BS end?

exactly, what has this country come to!! It is a fucking joke, first the cigarette makers, now this. Just heard recently on the radio get this. A guy got bombed at a pub and crawled out towards the street. Well, I guess he saw a cop car nearby so he crawled under a truck at a stop light>> the truck ran over him and killed him, now his family is suing because they said the trucker should have checked under his auto before proceeding through the light. No joke. This shit makes me so DAMN ANGRY!!!!!

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

News flash!!! Fat people know they're fat!!

I hate to say it but fat people make me ill

Gee, thanks. How would you feel if I just looked at you and decided that you made me ill? I don't even know anything about you.

you know they had to look in the mirror and see what was happening this didnt happen over night

Well, duh.

In most cases it goes something like this:

Wake up one morning, note trouble zipping up pants. Or: Buy new outfit, look in mirror and notice you don't look the way the model in the picture did wearing it.

Hate self. Tell self you are fat and ugly, and no one will ever want to be with you again. Tell self how lazy and bad you are.

Start diet. Confine self to the foods one hates, yearning for whatever you aren't allowing self to have. Start exercising. Note how out of shape you are. Hate every minute.
Be miserable every second, worrying about the new things you have to do that you don't want to do, and the things you used to like that you can never do again.

Hate feeling miserable worrying about these things. Break diet for "just this one thing." Then berate self. Since self has screwed the whole day up and hates this anyway, self will now allow "one day off" and eat whatever. Self pigs out on junk, junk, junk. Yell at self some more. Feel worse.

Struggle the remainder of month. Weigh self at end of month, discover five pound weight gain.

Repeat endlessly for remainder of life.

_____________________

This is how most fat people live. I know, I've been one for ten years and know a lot of others who are also struggling. I personally am FED UP with the Holy Quest for The Perfect Body Shape, not to mention fed up with lots of other popular wisdom I've received.

"Wear these jeans and get your hair cut like that," they said. "Then you will fit in and everyone will like you."

Struggle for some years with silly rules. Break down, buy jeans, cut hair. Everyone hates me anyway.

"Don't spend time goofing off," they said. "Work hard, and worry about a social life and free time AFTER the work is done. Make A's."

Work, work, work, work. Miss most of childhood and high school. Eventually get into a level of schooling where no amount of effort can produce the desired A. Graduate *less* fit for my profession than most of my peers, because I wasted time in pursuit of the wrong thing, when extracurricular professional clubs would have been much more beneficial.

"Sex is sinful," they said. "Wait til you are married."

Live 30 years, realize self will never get married, go ahead and have sex and realize they are all full of shit.

"Go to school and get a good education," they said. "Then you'll be set for life."

Went to school and went to school and WENT to school. Ignored desire for time off. Graduated to join what has to be one of the world's most overworked and underpaid professions, struggling under a MOUNTAIN of debt I will never be able to pay off even if I do live to be 100, crippling my ability to save for old age, travel, take vacation time, or even own a decent car.

"Do all of this," they said, "for it is the Key To A Happy Life."

I don't think so anymore.



So when I hear advice like, "Do WHATEVER IT TAKES to look like this: (insert image of your choice here), for anyone who does not is lazy, ugly, stupid, not fit for human company, and will be spit upon by all of humanity; not to mention they are killing themselves and *I* have to pay for it," I just ... spit back. NONE of this horseshit has EVER done what it was supposed to do: make me happy and lead me to "the good life," whatever that is. I was killing myself BEFORE. Now I am taking care of myself the way *I* want to, and if someone doesn't think my body looks appealing to them, well, fuck them.

I am never, never again going to sacrifice my happiness to some external yardstick society wants to measure me by. That doesn't mean I eat only Cheetos and never get up off the couch. What it does mean is that *I,* not YOU, have to like what I do, and if I don't like it, I don't do it!!

I haven't been a pretty little package for quite some time and I never will be again. But I can lift more weight than I used to and I am working on lifting more. I can jog a mile if I want to, and I can power walk a mile and a half. I can actually use the Roman chair now, when a few months ago I couldn't do a single lift. I have healthy blood sugar, healthy blood pressure, and healthy cholesterol levels. And, most important, I have a HEALTHY MENTAL OUTLOOK, which I didn't achieve until I tossed society's "shoulds" into the dumpster where they belong.

Quit being such a sheep. What "shoulds" are you daily attacking yourself with? You might be happier if you threw them out the window!!!

 

[1911]

Re: News flash!!! Fat people know they're fat!!

"But I can lift more weight than I used to and I am working on lifting more. I can jog a mile if I want to, and I can power walk a mile and a half. I can actually use the Roman chair now, when a few months ago I couldn't do a single lift..."

Keep doin' what your'e doin' and do whatever it takes to make even the slightest amount of progress under the iron and DO jog that mile (5 out of 7 days min). Come back and read this post in a year and I guarantee that "sad sack" shit will be a thing of the past. Good luck.

Later,

 

[oneandthesame]

This is off the subject of AS and I apologize for that but it kind of relates to some of the topics and discussions lately about TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS. Well, now I have heard everything, first people sue the cigarette companies because they are getting cancer (DUHHHH, not shit you get cancer from smoking) now I just heard on the radio on NPR (National Public Radio) that some fat guy junk food junkie is suing a variety of junk food companies because he is FAT. Well, no shit you are fat you eat Twinkies 4 times a day and washed it down with a McDonalds milk shake. I am not a hater or anything like that but when you shovel McNuggets, Fritos and Cup Cakes into your face all day everyday do not complain or blame anyone else because you are fat, don’t complain when you have to pay for two seats on a plane, you are the one who eat the 2 large Dominos Extra Cheese with Pepperonis and Sausage Thick Crust Pizza 5 days in a row (I also love how fat people always follow their order with, “Oh yes and a diet coke.” Like that is going to help, but that is off the subject) Anyway, I just thought this was ridiculous and it kind of relates to some of the discussions that have been going on. FRIGIN FAT PEOPLE. No offense to any fatties on this board, obviously you are all in just your bulking phase.

Fuck now I'm hungry

 

[PatBateman]

That was an extremely thoughtful and obviously from the heart post Troll. I think what people on here are pissed at is others not taking responsibility for their actions. UR right, no one has to live up to a certain image, I just think people would want to be healthy so they might live longer, but some people don't want that. If you are ok with being heavy, that's fine, but if someone is miserable with being out of shape, they should do something about it. I don't know what it is like to be that out of shape and I can only imagine that it would be extremely difficult, but if the person feels their weight is making them unhappy, they should make the effort.

People forget, and I do all too often as well, nothing comes easy. Nothing comes without the blood, sweat and toil, and if it does, either you're lucky or blessed.

I wish you luck with whatever fitness goals you may have, it sounds like you are doing great!

 

[AMBB4L]

So I've been eating 20 cupcakes, two large pizzas, 2 Big Macs (with Supersized fries) and 1/2 box of cereal every day for the past sixth months for a fellow lazyass fatty to beat me to suing junk food companies?! Damn. Need to think of another get-rich-quick scheme now...

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

rolleyes.gif

LOL

I can't jog every day or even every other day like I used to. Knees aren't as happy with it as they used to be. But, you know, the worst thing about being fat is the ugly comments and the judgement from others.

I am not a supersize fat person (like, 300 lbs.) I imagine at that size a person does become impeded in everyday activities. But most of the people you are sneering at are nowhere near a heart attack, and we can get around and do for ourselves just fine. What is painful is the decision, after 2 seconds of just LOOKING at us, that we must be depressed and lazy, we must eat nothing but hamburgers, we have accomplished nothing in our lives, we are miserable failures as human beings, and others can think and say whatever hurtful things they want. (It's just an ugly fattie!! Who cares how they feel?)

I observe that my fat friends know more about human kindness and how to treat people than most "pretty" people I have encountered.

Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes. I don't expect to ever be thin again, but if you are going to weigh 200 lbs., you may as well develop the muscle required to transport this from place to place. Plus I don't want to end up diabetic like my grandmother.

 

[Frackal]

The biggest problem in this world is that people can't take responsibilities for their own actions.

It's not a disability...that's BS...it's a choice. Someone that's blind has a disability, they didn't choose to not be able to see. Fat people choose to eat...accept the consequences of overeating.

Imagine a plane is full, and some huge fat person buys 1 ticket...and that ticket is next to you. Being a bodybuilding board, I'm sure most of us can barely fit in that seat as it is. So what happens now, the fat person takes your seat because they can't fit in theirs. No way. Either fit, get 2 seats, or get out. No special treatment.

By the way, if that guy wins any money...I give up on this country. Lawsuits should be illegal

"They said `100 percent beef.' I thought that meant it was good for you," Barber told Newsday. "I thought the food was OK."

Gee, you'd think that weighing 272 pounds and having 2 heart attacks...in 1996 and 1999 would make you realize that something you're doing isn't right.

No shit....I hope the judge spits on this piece of rank shit

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

I don't like frivolous lawsuits any more than you do. Just please don't judge all overweight people by this one.

 

[circusgirl]

iirc the ciggie case was based on tobacco companies suppressing evidence back in the 50s/60s about the dangers of smoking, when these were not as widely known. Same with the asbestos manufacturers around the same time.

McDs, on the other hand, don't try to claim that their food is nutritious. I see no negligence there.

 

[VicTusDeuS]

After reading all this, I wanted to post to say that I hope that you reading this will not judge all fat people by the actions of one.

It is a little simplistic to say that advertising MADE you eat only one thing to the exclusion of anything else, or determined how much you ate.

While I do think the fast food industry is not appropriately forthcoming about what exactly is in its food or how it was produced, I think it deserves to be sued for other reasons than this.

Did you know that most fast food is so processed it doesn't taste like ANYTHING???? The flavor in fast food comes from CHEMICALS made in a LAB. Can that be good for people's health?

Did you know that the meat for fast food comes very cheap, because that is how the Big Corporations sell it at those low, low prices and their coffers therefore stay rich, and, um, fat? Because they have to sell meat at such low prices, the meat packing plants from which this meat comes run the butchering and packing lines so fast that they are dangerous for the workers, who are rushing to keep up with the lines with large and dangerous sharp instruments. Sanitation is nowhere near what it should be (witness the E. coli outbreaks we see from time to time), and the workers are poorly paid and just plain EXPLOITED. Meat packing is one of the most dangerous jobs in this country.

I don't even want to talk about what they feed beef cattle (and I know something about this, as I am a veterinarian and former animal science major) and how these animals are treated. I only go into a fast food restaurant as a last resort, if I am stuck somewhere and there is absolutely nowhere else for me to eat.

Yes, it IS unconscionable what these companies are doing, but you would never know that from their sunny ads on Saturday morning TV. I hope SOMEBODY takes a big chunk out of their pocketbooks, but I wish it were for the right reasons.

Having said that, I would like to point out that fat people don't become fat in a vacuum. It seems that the more pressure there is in our culture to be thin, the fatter we become. All this obesity is a relatively new phenomenon. If 60% of America were just fat lazy pigs by nature, and absolute personal liability for body shape and weight were a real fact, how is it that this just occurred in the past 20 years or so? Why weren't we always a nation of 60% fat lazy pigs?

Something has changed, and I don't think it is the character of your basic stock hardworking American. I know it's easy to look at someone, decide you know all about them in 2 seconds and sneer, but that's not the right way to do it, guys. How you treat people is just as much under YOUR control as our eating is under ours.

I am assuming you side with the fat guy. He has no reason to sue. I eat fast food just as much as the next guy and I am the farthest from fat (sub 10% bf). You can sympothize with him all you want, but the fast food companies are not to blame. McDonalds and Burger King make their fries in greasy oil right in front of you. It's his own ignorance to blame that he didnt know eating large amounts of food cooked in hot greasy oil would clog his arteries.
Nobody was telling him to go their either. If a sign says made with 100% beef, that means that one of the ingrediants was beef, and it was composed of pure beef. The fast food companies are not idiots, they have their own lawyers too and can interpret things the way they want. Just like with race issues, this fat guy trying to sue because he is fat is only going to piss off the healthy unfat people and make them start hating fat people even more now too.

 

[VicTusDeuS]

iirc the ciggie case was based on tobacco companies suppressing evidence back in the 50s/60s about the dangers of smoking, when these were not as widely known. Same with the asbestos manufacturers around the same time.

McDs, on the other hand, don't try to claim that their food is nutritious. I see no negligence there.

Plus the cigarette companies were delibratly adding chemicals to their cigarettes to get you addicted to them..

 

[cockdezl]

While I do think the fast food industry is not appropriately forthcoming about what exactly is in its food or how it was produced, I think it deserves to be sued for other reasons than this.

Did you know that most fast food is so processed it doesn't taste like ANYTHING???? The flavor in fast food comes from CHEMICALS made in a LAB. Can that be good for people's health?

Did you know that that is bullshit??? Try again with some true statements.

Did you know that the meat for fast food comes very cheap, because that is how the Big Corporations sell it at those low, low prices and their coffers therefore stay rich, and, um, fat?

I guess economics was a class you elected to skip. The agricultural industry has made huge strides in raising livestock and growing produce so that the US can have cheap food. Would you have us price all meats so high as to prevent most people from having access to them??

Because they have to sell meat at such low prices, the meat packing plants from which this meat comes run the butchering and packing lines so fast that they are dangerous for the workers, who are rushing to keep up with the lines with large and dangerous sharp instruments.

Did you just get to read Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle"? Hate to tell you, but that story was from about a hundred years ago. The US meat industry is governed by USDA/FSIS inspectors, and I personally worked in a poulty plant in college, and they are hard asses. Not to mention that Safety Inspectors and Industrial Hygienists are often times employed to make sure that the plant is safe.

Sanitation is nowhere near what it should be (witness the E. coli outbreaks we see from time to time), and the workers are poorly paid and just plain EXPLOITED. Meat packing is one of the most dangerous jobs in this country.

What a load of shit. Being a microbiologist, and working in the food industry, I can tell you that outbreaks are not widespread, and are not problematic on a grand scale. We have done enormous research to prevent and control microbial pathogens from being in foods at purchase. Our food is the safest in history.

I don't even want to talk about what they feed beef cattle (and I know something about this, as I am a veterinarian and former animal science major) and how these animals are treated. I only go into a fast food restaurant as a last resort, if I am stuck somewhere and there is absolutely nowhere else for me to eat.

Let me guess, they feed cattle antibiotics and hormones, right? Antibiotic feed is regulated and the beef is tested to ensure that tissue concentrations are below acceptable levels as are hormones. But I guess you would have us not use antibiotics and then subject the consumers to greater chances of infections and intoxications.

As for treatment, I know that they are not getting luxury resorts to live in, but they are food. Such is life.

Yes, it IS unconscionable what these companies are doing, but you would never know that from their sunny ads on Saturday morning TV. I hope SOMEBODY takes a big chunk out of their pocketbooks, but I wish it were for the right reasons.

You have presented nothing unconscionable, only untrue. You hope that someone takes a chunk of their profits, because somehow you contribute some personal aspect of your life as being pushed upon you by the "evil" corporation. You have presented no "right" reasons for them being sued. They provide a great service to the country and you and other whiners see them as some "evil" that makes you do things that you somehow can't control.

I would like to point out that fat people don't become fat in a vacuum. It seems that the more pressure there is in our culture to be thin, the fatter we become. All this obesity is a relatively new phenomenon. If 60% of America were just fat lazy pigs by nature, and absolute personal liability for body shape and weight were a real fact, how is it that this just occurred in the past 20 years or so? Why weren't we always a nation of 60% fat lazy pigs?

Poor reasoning. People become fat by choice, no pseudo-scientific psycho-babble will change the fact that you are the only controlling force in your life. Obesity is not due to the cultural idols, but from wealth. The US has become wealthier and has greater access to cheap food. Years before, we didn't have a McDonald's at every corner with $.99 Big Macs. We eat out of convenience now, as opposed to survival. Our country has such abundance of cheap food that we can have huge amounts of food for little money. Is this bad? Only if you think that people cannot control themselves and are controlled by those who provide us with food.

Something has changed, and I don't think it is the character of your basic stock hardworking American.

Then you have not been out in the real world, recently. Americans are lazier than ever. There is no "hard, working Americans" anymore, this is a rarity.

I know it's easy to look at someone, decide you know all about them in 2 seconds and sneer, but that's not the right way to do it, guys. How you treat people is just as much under YOUR control as our eating is under ours.

From your above assertions, eating is not under our control, but from the pressure of society and other environmental forces. You need to keep your arguments straight.

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

VicTusDeuS: Uh, no, I DON'T side with the fat guy. Otherwise why would I say I don't believe in FRIVOLOUS lawsuits and ask you not to judge me by him?? I also don't believe in the plane one (the Southwestern airlines issue.) How what I wrote created that impression, I don't know.

What I was doing is taking the opportunity to point out other far more malicious things this industry and related ones are doing then peddling wares of low nutritional value that hopefully most people are aware not to overindulge on.


cockdezl: No, I wasn't reading anything by Upton Sinclair. What I was reading, however, are these two sources:

Fast Food Nation, by Eric Schlossen

Nickle and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America, by Barbara Ehrenreich.

When you've read these two books, THEN you can come lecture me on how benign a force fast food is in our culture, and how lazy and worthless most Americans (especially low-income Americans, those fat people everyone loves to hate) really are.


"somehow you contribute some personal aspect of your life as being pushed upon you by the "evil" corporation."

Of *my* life? Where did I say that? I believe I said that I eat fast food as little as possible.

(Improper use of the word "contribute," btw. Consult a dictionary.)

But I guess you would have us not use antibiotics and then subject the consumers to greater chances of infections and intoxications.

That is not what antibiotics are given to livestock for. *Sick* animals may be treated with *therapeutic* doses of antibiotics to rid them of a bacterial infection (although these days they are just as likely to be destroyed, as that would cost the grower less money). But most of the antibiotics used in animal feed are dosed at subtherapuetic levels, because it has been shown that these animals gain more weight and make more money for the grower. This contributes to the problem of antibiotic resistance. The AMA and the AVMA are working on guidelines now to restrict prescriptions of antibiotics by doctors and veterinarians in order to combat this problem, but we can't seem to get the food industry to see the light on this issue.

If I can see a resistant ear infection in weeks to months when an owner doesn't use antibiotics as directed to treat their dog, I can readily see how the same thing occurs with subtherapeutic levels of antibiotics in animal feed. My micro professors were complaining about this problem way back when I was in undergraduate school, and the problem has only gotten worse.

I invite you to read the two books mentioned.

 

[Optimus B]

i think i'm going to call my lawyer and sue that guy that's suing the fast-food companies and junk-food companies. he's caused me undue emotional distress for being such a fucking ignorant leach and tying up the justice system for such a frivolous lawsuit. i should get at least a couple billion in punitive damages.

 

[Optimus B]

sorry, but does anyone want in on my lawsuit? the more people that have been affected the stronger the case!! i smell a fat payday. what color do you want your bmw??

 

[Norman Bates]

This guy deserves nothing.
And even if he deserved something it surely shouldn´t be in the million dollar range.
The amounts that are being paid in America for sues like that are ridicously high.

 

[JDarty6173]

How can this fat dumb ass be so ignorant as to think someone else is responsible for what he eats?

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

Sorry, Optimus, but in your/our class action lawsuit you would end up making about 2 cents, and your LAWYER would end up the millionaire!!!!

 

[Frackal]

I've worked at KFC, and GNC, two opposite ends of the spectrum where I deal primarily with fat people. 85% of fat people are fat by choice.

 

[Bullit]

Some people are so damn stupid...and somtimes they actually get rewarded for it which makes it even more rediculous!

I agree... and its the juries that actually let these fuckers win. If I was on one of these juries I can guarentee that it would be at least a deadlock, cuz I would never let these losers abdicate their personal responsibility.

 

[Optimus B]

Sorry, Optimus, but in your/our class action lawsuit you would end up making about 2 cents, and your LAWYER would end up the millionaire!!!!

lol, true, but at least it's 2 cents more than i had before. who am i kidding, i'd have to beat it out of my lawyer.

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

Frack, I don't know ONE person who just woke up one morning and decided they wanted to weigh 400 lbs.

 

[gwl9dta4]

Frack, I don't know ONE person who just woke up one morning and decided they wanted to weigh 400 lbs.

But how many fat people do you know that woke up and said i will never be 400 pounds?

Seems that fat people a weak mentally and of a low IQ. They are victims of their own minds, dieting and eating halthy is not hard, if you have goals of being healthy and fit. Most fat people just don't care. I does not take a genius to figure out that going up a flight of stairs and getting winded warrats a lifestyle change. DMAN, wake up already and get a grip.

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

But how many fat people do you know that woke up and said i will never be 400 pounds?

Me, for one. And I'm not.



Has it occurred to anyone yet that an attitude like:

Seems that fat people a(re) weak mentally and of a low IQ. They are victims of their own minds

is awfully simplistic? You cannot boil everything in life down to one issue and call it Weight and What The Body Looks Like.

I personally completed 7 years of higher education and have a professional degree. You cannot get through that if you are weak mentally, and you sure as hell can't do it with a low IQ. How is it that a person can be a nuclear physicist or something, but if they are fat, "they are weak mentally and have a low IQ???"

Let me put it this way. Most people have problems with SOME area of life. I know some people with an alcohol or drug problem. Some people have a smoking problem. Some folks just can't get out of a bad relationship, can't stop picking bad relationships, or can't get their finances in order. Some people hit their wives and children. You could say, I imagine, that these people are "victims of their own minds" as well.

And some people have more trouble sticking to a diet and exercise plan than others. Some have trouble looking any different with the diet and exercise plan that they are sticking to. Why is it that ONE category of problem seems to be SO much worse than any of the others to you?

Why is it that only the latter category of problems people have in life is deserving of the sort of scorn you heap on fat people?? You really *don't* know ... they can have everything else going right for them, but if they are fat, they are a loser! Something is very wrong with this sort of thinking.

I see a lot of scorn among you people for those who are having some trouble controlling what goes into their mouths. How about those who cannot control what comes *out* of their mouths? In my experience, that is at least as bad!

Most fat people just don't care. I(t) does not take a genius to figure out that going up a flight of stairs and getting winded warrats a lifestyle change.

Yeah, we DO care.

I personally don't get winded going up stairs. I may fall off the fitness wagon now and again, but I always get back on again. I imagine I am going to take a bit longer to be able to look or lift like any of you guys at this rate. BUT I am still cutting my risk for diabetes, heart disease, and osteoporosis, and even if I never look like a fitness magazine cover, when I am 85 years old and can still cook, clean, and garden, I won't care.

All I am saying is, stop making blanket judgements about people based on how they look. You really don't know that person. You only THINK you do.

DMAN, wake up already and get a grip.

I will if you will.

 

[Puc]

http://209.11.101.247/ubb/Forum10/07-2000/001211.html

i have fought the battle too many times to count troll.... i don't like encouraging people to give up, but you are being unrealistic if you think you can change their minds...

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

I doubt anyone will actually agree. I just want to put these ideas in front of people.

 

[p0ink]

cockdezl put the smack down.

 

[PinK233]

I really could care less who is fat as long as it isn't me....if you like being fat, then be happy and stuff your face....if you don't like being fat, then stop your bitching and get on a treadmill....don't blame other people such as McDonald's or society for your lack of discipline.

 

[Frackal]

Frack, I don't know ONE person who just woke up one morning and decided they wanted to weigh 400 lbs.

That's an irrelevant statement. It's not as if they go from 180-400lb overnight either....it takes years.... if someone reaches 250lbs and continues with their habits until they hit 400lbs, it is 100% their fault...this lack of self responsibility that is in vogue in America is fucking pathetic. It's not the fault of the evil corporations, it's not the fault of the evil magazines with skinny women....if you really cannot take responsibilty for yourself even to the point of blaming your obesity on commercials and convienence, than perhaps you are better off being eliminated from the gene pool...and I am speaking not to you troll directly...Like I said, I work at GNC, I deal with fat people all day long, and the one thing that strikes me the most is that they are whiny, and lazy, as hell.