eq/winny to bulk? that's pretty funny, you must be part of a very small group to try that. Well I think it was the winny that worked for me. The first time I used eq alone I got up one night after taking a sleeping pill so I wouldn't get up hungry. I was so hungry, I couldn't stand up and I crawled across the floor to a get a banana to make the hunger pain go away. I was on my way to the hospital when it stopped. This wasn't a problem this time when I used the winny, but I also was on test/deca/ox and gh so I suppose it could have been all of them.