maybe take it for fatloss I was just curious about that if its a steroidal anti estrogen just like exemestane shouldnt it be safe to take with out pct or maybe jsut a mild pct. Ive been training for a while, not bodybuilder status have higher bf lvl right now would wait till that's a little lower before I even start a cycle, but have always wondered if anyone did that . I have tried epistane once and it made me drop alot of bf. 5'10 170 should probably be 150 to be ripped tho and im 24