ENATHATE ONLY 1st Cycle - Please Critique and answer some questions

[Randy841]

ENATHATE ONLY 1st Cycle - Please Critique and answer some questions
I want to do the following cycle, please critique and and answer some questions.
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DAY 1-68: 10 Week Enathate at 250mg twice wkly = 500mg wkly

DAY 1-73: 500 i.u. HCG Every 5th day starting on 5th day after first shot AND last shot 6 days before starting PCT

DAY 1-100 +: Creatine 10g daily

DAY 69-80: Off

DAY 81-110: PCT
Clomid 300mg[day 1] 100mg[9 days] 50mg [11days]= 21 days

Nolvadex 40mg [14 days] 20mg [16 days] = 30 days
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MOST WORRIED about : Hair Loss and Gyno--other problems usually resolve themselves at the conservative dosages I am planning.

EXPECTATIONS: Looking to gain 15-20 solid muscle [long term] and lose body fat by tweaking diet, if possible

WHAT CAN I REALLY EXPECT?

I would really like to break the 16.5 inch [Flexed] arm barrier, which is a shame at 215lb IMO and unproportionate to well built chest, back, and legs-- CAN THIS THRESHOLD BE BROKEN WITH A CYCLE?
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Age: 25
5'9"
215LB
15-17% body fat
Training 8yrs + [4 years off from Sept 1999-Aug 2003]
TRAIN 4-6 times wkly 1:30-3:00 hrs + cardio/abs etc.
Bench 275lb+ * 4-8
Squat 315+ * 8-10
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QUESTIONS [I have done extensive research on all q's, but I thought I get opinions as for some q's I remain unsure]

1] Is Clomid really necessary as I use HCG throughout the cycle, I am skeptical about Clomid and side effects?

2] For Tes Enat what Gauge needle to use 22g or 23 g?

3] PCT Clomid Should I continue for 9 more days for a total of 30 days?

4] For HCG what Gauge needle to use--is 25g ok (or higher, if any)?

5] When should the last HCG shot be?

6] Should I use Nolvadex throughout the cycle to counteract water retention so that post cycle I do not lose as much water weight rapidly?

7] Should Clomid/Nolva be taken in divided doses during the day--if needed during cycle and PCT?

8] Do I have to worry about using from day 1 anti-aromatases like Arimidex, Femara, or Cytadren?

9] Can Enat and HCG be taken on the same day (only for some days), probably morning and night etc. OR can I draw the HCG with Enat and also use it the same day as Enat Shot?

All input is appreciated greatly...THANKS!

 

[SwolK]

ill answer the ones that i can
-yes, clomid is necessary for pct
-either, but 23ga will work and hurt less
-Pct is 21 days
-nolv is your option, im running it all the way though at 10mg/ed i will up it if necessary
-day 1 of pct is 6 pills, so yes split it up, day 2-11 one in morning one at night,
-i do not think you need adex for fem b/c you are only using test. nolv will do fine imo

 

[p.b.]

2)use 26g
4)29g slin pins
use the smallest needle u can. less pain and less scar tissue is a good thing

 

[buckwheat1]

ENATHATE ONLY 1st Cycle - Please Critique and answer some questions
I want to do the following cycle, please critique and and answer some questions.
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DAY 1-68: 10 Week Enathate at 250mg twice wkly = 500mg wkly

DAY 1-73: HCG Every 5th day starting on 5th day after first shot AND last shot 6 days before starting PCT

DAY 1-100 +: Creatine 10g daily

DAY 69-80: Off

DAY 81-110: PCT
Clomid 300mg[day 1] 100mg[9 days] 50mg [11days]= 21 days

Nolvadex 40mg [14 days] 20mg [16 days] = 30 days
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MOST WORRIED about : Hair Loss and Gyno--other problems usually resolve themselves at the conservative dosages I am planning.

EXPECTATIONS: Looking to gain 15-20 solid muscle [long term] and lose body fat by tweaking diet, if possible

WHAT CAN I REALLY EXPECT?

I would really like to break the 16.5 inch [Flexed] arm barrier, which is a shame at 215lb IMO and unproportionate to well built chest, back, and legs-- CAN THIS THRESHOLD BE BROKEN WITH A CYCLE?
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Age: 25
5'9"
215LB
15-17% body fat
Training 8yrs + [4 years off from Sept 1999-Aug 2003]
TRAIN 4-6 times wkly 1:30-3:00 hrs + cardio/abs etc.
Bench 275lb+ * 4-8
Squat 315+ * 8-10
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QUESTIONS [I have done extensive research on all q's, but I thought I get opinions as for some q's I remain unsure]

1] Is Clomid really necessary as I use HCG throughout the cycle, I am skeptical about Clomid and side effects?

2] For Tes Enat what Gauge needle to use 22g or 23 g?

3] PCT Clomid Should I continue for 9 more days for a total of 30 days?

4] For HCG what Gauge needle to use--is 25g ok (or higher, if any)?

5] When should the last HCG shot be?

6] Should I use Nolvadex throughout the cycle to counteract water retention so that post cycle I do not lose as much water weight rapidly?

7] Should Clomid/Nolva be taken in divided doses during the day--if needed during cycle and PCT?

8] Do I have to worry about using from day 1 anti-aromatases like Arimidex, Femara, or Cytadren?

9] Can Enat and HCG be taken on the same day (only for some days), probably morning and night etc. OR can I draw the HCG with Enat and also use it the same day as Enat Shot?

All input is appreciated greatly...THANKS!

First many people on this board will jump on you right away saying that you have written too many questions and that you need to do your research first. I agree that from all of the questions that you do not have a clear understanding of what you need to do. Unlike the others, I accept these questions as your attempt to do research. So to help you with your research I have attempted to answer as many of your questions as I can. Given that, please take some time on the board to get a little more familiar with things. It won't take long.




Some comments and answers to your questions:

- 10 weeks of 500mg/wk of test ethan. is a good solid cycle. You could keep it simple or add some dbol for the first 3-4 weeks.

- you can use clomid or nolvadex at the end of the cycle. Some people have problems with clomid. Many don't. Clomid/Nolvadex help bring back testosterone levels. Without them, recover may take longer and you may lose more of the hard earned muscle that you just gained. Is it possible to do a cycle without it? Sure. But not advised.

- I use 25g 1" needles for delts, quads, and chest shots. I use 23g 1 1/2" for glutes. But 22g - 25g can be used. My first shot I had to use a 21g. Not that big of a deal.

- I run clomid/nolvadex for at least three weeks. The PCT starts depending on what type of steroid/ester you are using. With ethanate, you would wait 2 weeks after your last shot before starting PCT.

- HCG can be injected SubQ or IM. I always use SubQ. Therefore I use insulin needles. If going IM I would use the smallest 1" needle that I could fine. 25g - 30g would work fine.

- you can run HCG throughout the cycle. I like this approach. I think 500IU once a week is good. If things are looking good then you can skip shots.

- the last HCG shot should be done the week of your last shot. The HCG will kick in over the next week, while at the same type the test levels are declining. At the end of 2 weeks, you should be ready for PCT.

- Nolvadex is not effective at reducing water retention. People use Nolvadex during a cycle to prevent gyno from occuring. A general rule of thumb is that you keep Nolvadex on hand and at the first sign of gyno (itchy nipples) you start using it.

- if you want to combat bloat you will need to use one of the aromatise inhibitors like armidex, femera, etc. They of course can help guard against gyno also since the reduce the circulating estrogen in your system rather than just block the receptor. Using these are a personal choice. Most deal with the bloat and feel that the water retention/estrogen help with gains through increased IGF-1 levels.

- Test Ethanate should typically be shot 2x a week. Personally I don't have a fixed days. I just shoot ever 3rd day and some times every 4th day. You basically just get it close to 2x a week and you will be fine. Doesn't matter if you do it during the morning or late at night. Do it when it is convenient. Its not rocket science

- same goes for HCG. Doesn't matter what time of the day. And if you are shooting every week doesn't matter if you miss a day, so forth.

- as far as what type of gains to expect. I cannot predict. There other factors like diet and training that must be factored in beyond the number of milligrams of steriods that we inject into our bodies.

I do feel confident in saying that if you attempt to gain muscle and lose weight at the same time, you will not reach 15+ pounds unless you are genetic freak. I think 15 pounds of solid muscle (not water gain) is an impressive amount of muscle to gain in 10 weeks. And I think it may be possible if you are not watching calories. But expect less if you are.

Hope this helps. You probably don't have karma, but if you do, I want some.

Good luck.

 

[Randy841]

That clears things up. Thanks Guys!