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ECA Stacking

Melaina

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It's been at least 6 years since I've run one.... And like everything else, research is key. I came across this article and just wanted to discuss some things....

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The ECA stack is a popular drug combination, which is used as an energy booster and for weight loss. ECA is an acronym for ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin.


Ephedrine is the main ingredient in the stack for both fat burning and energy enhancing. Although it’s very effective on its own, combining it with caffeine makes it even more so. How effective is it? When used properly and can greatly speed up the fat burning process and you’ll loose those unwanted pounds. But before you go out and buy ECA stack there are a few things you need to know about.


Along with fat burning ephedrine will attempt to burn off your hard earned muscle as well. The best way of combating this fat loss is to supplement with protein throughout the day – not just once or twice a day, as is usually the case.


Ephedrine also acts as an appetite suppressant. How this works is not fully understood, but this aids in weight loss also. Unfortunately, these effects only last for a couple of weeks if the stack isn’t cycled because the body become tolerant of ephedrine to some extent.


Ephedrine acts to increase energy by acting on the brain to increase the release of nonadrenaline into the synapic cleft, and also works as a nonadrenaline reuptake inhibitor
due to the shared action between the two terminals.


In most cases the ECA stack is taken two or three times daily in a 1:10:10 or 1:10:15 ratio of ephedrine: caffeine: aspirin. These ratios vary across studies and across users, but in spite of the differences they seem to be effective. No more than 25mg of ephedrine, 200mg of caffeine and 325 mg of aspirin should be taken in a single dose and because ECA stack can contribute to insomnia it should not be taken past late afternoon.


Although ephedrine and aspirin are not addictive caffeine is, and users can develop a tolerance to lowered adenosine levels and this can lead to withdrawal symptoms from adenosine sensitivity if caffeine use is stopped too quickly. It is also possible to develop a psychological addiction to ephedrine and aspirin.


The most serious risk factor of the ECA stack is the effect ephedrine can have on a pre-existing heart condition. It has been linked to death in people with valve damage, cardiac hypertrophy, and other heart problems. Stimulants should not be taken by anyone with a heart condition. Evidence also exists that show that the long-term use of amphetamines can lead to heart damage, but this has not been shown for ephedrine use.


The use of ephedrine and caffeine can also raise blood pressure, so users who already have hypertension need to be careful that the stack doesn’t raise their blood pressure to dangerous levels – especially during exercise. The good thing is that the presence of aspirin in the stack does thin the blood and counteracts this partially.


Insomnia, dry mouth irritability, stress, headache, dizziness, irregular heartbeat and increased thirst are some of the other side effects of the ECA stack. Ephedrine has been linked to death causing many countries to outlaw or control it. The risk of ephedrine has caused many people to try “ephedrine free” stack formulas. There is no proof that any of these formulas are effective, but a great deal of evidence exists to support the effectiveness of the ECA stack, but with risks.


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I've run a 1:10:10 ratio but only once a day.... do I need to bump this to twice a day as a FEMALE? I would take it at 7am and then again at 1-2pm.... but really, 50mg of Ephedrine is quite a bit. Would I be better off to cycle up to twice a day or just play it by ear...


The protein part I had never heard of, although it DOES make sense and with the diet plan Thands gave me... I do have protein in there (Although would like to add protein bars - homemade in lieu of a protein shake since both times I am at work and my job is high movement, high stress....


And I highlighted to aspirin bit in blue because it's important and was questioned in another thread.



Thanks ladies and gents.
 
Oh and I wanted to discuss the cycling.... I ran a straight through cycle... this may not have been correct, I dunno.... does anyone know how long a cycle should run? I really wasn't planning on running anything more than 10 weeks.... I when I start to get burned out I just stop... my body is pretty good at telling me when enough is enough. If I want to keep cycling I take the time off... the same length as the cycle and then run it again.
 
25 mg ephedrine is PLENTY.

I use: 25 mg. E/ 200 mg. C/ 325 mg. A.......twice a day.

Yes, you need to cycle it and go off for at least 2 weeks at a time due to down regulation of your receptors (basically it loses effectiveness). If you notice the effects wearing off, switch to a different fat burner for 2 weeks and then you can go back to it.

Hello, my name is Tami, and I'm an ECA JUNKIE! :nerd:
 
I like green tea pills too as long as they are made from a reputable source. Drinking it can be a bit much at work in a suit in the summer.
I used to love the ABB Speed Stack drinks when they had ephedrine in them. I think I was 220 year round shredded beyond belief.
 
Since Ephedrine has a 1/2 life of 3-4 hours... so I split the doses in 1/2 and double them up?

8am 1/2 stack

11am 1/2 stack

2pm 1/2 stack

I would be getting about 45mg Ephedrine a day....

Questioning if this is better than 25mg 8am and then 25mg 2pm... with 1:10:10 caffeine...aspirin.... etc...etc.
 
Since Ephedrine has a 1/2 life of 3-4 hours... so I split the doses in 1/2 and double them up?

8am 1/2 stack

11am 1/2 stack

2pm 1/2 stack

I would be getting about 45mg Ephedrine a day....

Questioning if this is better than 25mg 8am and then 25mg 2pm... with 1:10:10 caffeine...aspirin.... etc...etc.

You can split it like that.....if it works for you, absolutely.

When I first started, I only used 12.5 mg of ephedrine and the normal amounts of the other C and A because it had me bouncin' off the walls! You may find that this is better for you to start as well. In fact, you may just start it like that anyway just because its been so long. If you start high and take the 25 - there's nothing you can do but let it wear off and that isn't ideal if you're crawling out of your own skin.

I usually run it until it loses it's effect. If I can't feel it - its' time to change it up for a couple of weeks.
 
Sounds great! I'll do that, thanks for the reply. I do hate trying to crawl out of my own skin... LOL
 
stims and fat burners are 2 different things now a days..

eca is king.. but as others say, it needs to be cycled..

some will run clen 2 weeks, the eca 2 weeks depends on the stim level you can stand..

t3 @ 75mcg throughout

and cycle the above..

benadryl has been known to clean receptors and some users report continued use of clen 3-4 weeks, but i recommend 2 on 2 off..
 
Green tea especially cafeine free is great because the polyphenols help metabolize fat without the stims. Add consistent CLA use as well.
 
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