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Well mates I was not even going to touch this subject on a open forum but I have gave a great deal of thought about this, and not to mention all the emails in regards to this subject due to doubts of gear quality, infections, and abscesses created by the use of veterinary gear. So I suspect that there will be a few that are going to try to discredit this little letter that I am writing on the subject “I guess we don’t want to hurt sales” So here it goes.
I have had many emails on the subject of Ttokkyo Labs gear( is the deca real or just test?) well my answer is I really don’t know, but I know this, Mexico, Thai land, and shit even Canada jumps on the veterinarian anabolic band wagon, why do you think this is? It is simple, the standards are much lower and fraud is a fact of every day life in these countries. (I know because I have been directly or indirectly involved in the anabolic industry at the highest level for 15 + years).
I can with ease have labels & boxes printed, vials bought, (exact doops of lets say Upjohn) flip top lids and a pneumatic crimpier all for about $7,000.00 not very much A “OH” jeepers I can even throw a hologram on my products and say look you can’t counterfeit my gear “what a industry joke” Now lets move my new found business to lets say Mexico where for a few more $$$’s I will print my Lab Analyst reports on my Deca ,Tren, EQ, well the list goes on and throw a quick signature on the bottom of the form Jose Sanchez (you know the Mexican Government Guy) oops I forgot the S.A.G.A.R. Registration number “let me think 58-9413-3 does that sound good? It does to me” Whaaaam I’m in business. Oooops I almost forgot I can buy Bulk Testosterone in 5gl cans for pennies per ml “but no worries I will be sure to add my 1ml of benzyl alcohol per 10ml vial so all the bodybuilders have a nice and sterile product . Are you getting the point yet?
Well lets take this a few steps further, you know Ttokkyo, Denkall, Tornel, Brovel labs the list goes on, the point is they are Mexican based companies and you see how relatively easy it is to get up and running. But one thing, these companies have all ready built a name for them selves in the veterinarian industry ( back then they did not have a real hand in the athletic part, not yet at least ) Okay lets pic one to look at, Denkall Labs, You say why Denkall there gear is great “is it” lets look at good old Denkall! The only 2 products that you could ever be sure about is the Stanazolic 50 mg per ml micro-fine winstrol (20ml vial) and Denkadiol these are the only 2 products ever exported from Troy labs out of Australia. You say what makes the Australian thing better, because Ozz and the USA have a very high standard in quality of production. The products that I am referring to (in the past Tense) are a thing of the past you see Denkall produces all its gear in Mexico and since that has happened I have heard many concerns about the Quality. (Go figure)
See all these labs have a few things in common they have found a nitch in the athletic market and 90% are crooks. You see guys we are all looking for that great deal (it is human nature to do so) and these guys have capitalized on that need, just like those millions of OTC products that have there claims of Olympian like gains “let me know if you have found any to work”.
In short guys I am sorry to have busted the bubble of many of the new guys out there, this is just a fact in the industry keep in mind we as athletes are forced to go underground and hide in the basement in order to become our Best “I mean our definition of the best” You may be asking what can we do as a bunch of working stiffs and Gym rats? There is a few things that we can do. But it does cost “quality has a price” stick with pharmaceutical grade gear you know good old crack top amps, pre loads, and yes even a few of the Veterinarian companies. Also there still is the problem of counterfeiting going on at that end, but it is less likely (the odds are in your favor) Let me tell you why you are better off going this route, It’s simple it costs $100,000.00 + to set that type of operation so the crooks are looking for a more cost effective way to scam us “jeepers kind of like us looking for better deal on gear” Also you ask what veterinarian companies would you work with? Simple, I like Jurox and Nature-Vet and let me tell you way, see they don’t have the crazy claims of high dose gear (300 and 500mg per ml doses) so once again this does not tempt the crook for he feels there is no money in it.
Now I have you thinking most of us deal with Mex sources do you think it is safe to work with the gear you speak of? Absolutely! Remember guys the crooks know we are forced to go underground and will I mean will capitalize on this fact.
I look forward to any questions you may have on this subject.
Rodney Sanders www.anonymousdebitcorp.com
I have had many emails on the subject of Ttokkyo Labs gear( is the deca real or just test?) well my answer is I really don’t know, but I know this, Mexico, Thai land, and shit even Canada jumps on the veterinarian anabolic band wagon, why do you think this is? It is simple, the standards are much lower and fraud is a fact of every day life in these countries. (I know because I have been directly or indirectly involved in the anabolic industry at the highest level for 15 + years).
I can with ease have labels & boxes printed, vials bought, (exact doops of lets say Upjohn) flip top lids and a pneumatic crimpier all for about $7,000.00 not very much A “OH” jeepers I can even throw a hologram on my products and say look you can’t counterfeit my gear “what a industry joke” Now lets move my new found business to lets say Mexico where for a few more $$$’s I will print my Lab Analyst reports on my Deca ,Tren, EQ, well the list goes on and throw a quick signature on the bottom of the form Jose Sanchez (you know the Mexican Government Guy) oops I forgot the S.A.G.A.R. Registration number “let me think 58-9413-3 does that sound good? It does to me” Whaaaam I’m in business. Oooops I almost forgot I can buy Bulk Testosterone in 5gl cans for pennies per ml “but no worries I will be sure to add my 1ml of benzyl alcohol per 10ml vial so all the bodybuilders have a nice and sterile product . Are you getting the point yet?
Well lets take this a few steps further, you know Ttokkyo, Denkall, Tornel, Brovel labs the list goes on, the point is they are Mexican based companies and you see how relatively easy it is to get up and running. But one thing, these companies have all ready built a name for them selves in the veterinarian industry ( back then they did not have a real hand in the athletic part, not yet at least ) Okay lets pic one to look at, Denkall Labs, You say why Denkall there gear is great “is it” lets look at good old Denkall! The only 2 products that you could ever be sure about is the Stanazolic 50 mg per ml micro-fine winstrol (20ml vial) and Denkadiol these are the only 2 products ever exported from Troy labs out of Australia. You say what makes the Australian thing better, because Ozz and the USA have a very high standard in quality of production. The products that I am referring to (in the past Tense) are a thing of the past you see Denkall produces all its gear in Mexico and since that has happened I have heard many concerns about the Quality. (Go figure)
See all these labs have a few things in common they have found a nitch in the athletic market and 90% are crooks. You see guys we are all looking for that great deal (it is human nature to do so) and these guys have capitalized on that need, just like those millions of OTC products that have there claims of Olympian like gains “let me know if you have found any to work”.
In short guys I am sorry to have busted the bubble of many of the new guys out there, this is just a fact in the industry keep in mind we as athletes are forced to go underground and hide in the basement in order to become our Best “I mean our definition of the best” You may be asking what can we do as a bunch of working stiffs and Gym rats? There is a few things that we can do. But it does cost “quality has a price” stick with pharmaceutical grade gear you know good old crack top amps, pre loads, and yes even a few of the Veterinarian companies. Also there still is the problem of counterfeiting going on at that end, but it is less likely (the odds are in your favor) Let me tell you why you are better off going this route, It’s simple it costs $100,000.00 + to set that type of operation so the crooks are looking for a more cost effective way to scam us “jeepers kind of like us looking for better deal on gear” Also you ask what veterinarian companies would you work with? Simple, I like Jurox and Nature-Vet and let me tell you way, see they don’t have the crazy claims of high dose gear (300 and 500mg per ml doses) so once again this does not tempt the crook for he feels there is no money in it.
Now I have you thinking most of us deal with Mex sources do you think it is safe to work with the gear you speak of? Absolutely! Remember guys the crooks know we are forced to go underground and will I mean will capitalize on this fact.
I look forward to any questions you may have on this subject.
Rodney Sanders www.anonymousdebitcorp.com
