Does God make you fat?

[pdaddyII]

Jesus isn't real so stfu

 

[cindylou]

Hebrews 4:9-11 9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his (If you're doing it just as God did from his, then are you not doing it on a Saturday? Because to do it on a Sunday would not be doing it just as God did, which goes back to picking and choosing). 11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.

The sabbath in the OT was a lesson and a sign between God and Israel..not God and the church.

And on that note, I don't see how you don't think a day of rest holds any religious value. If that's what you think, then you've missed God's point. God's reason for a Sabbath was never to give man a break from a hard week at work lol. God wasn't trying to be nice. His reason for the Sabbath was so that on that day, man could stop all he was doing long enough to honor God and all he had done...and I think that holds tons of religious value, don't you?

...but I'm not particularly religious, I just don't see how a religious person could not see value in making sure one takes enough time to give praise to the God they hold so dear.

I posted the Hebrews verse in my post as well..it was the first verse I posted.

I posted earlier in the thread the differences between the old and new testament and feel that explains itself. Why would I act as if I was seeing a shadow when I see the real person? Why would I act as a carnal Jew. If I thought that I needed to keep the Sabbath on Saturday and Sunday sabbath was a sin and that meant anything...wouldn't I be working my way to righteousness? I could stop going to church all together and work 7 days a week and it wouldn't do a thing for my salvation.

To use the OT term sabbath and apply that to NT gather and worship is to compare apples to oranges. It is really simple concept and I don't understand why people get so hung up on things like this.

I go to church every Sunday and I feel that it is important to praise God. I do try and rest one day a week. The day that I worship and rest is not important. Yes it is important to want to to the right thing and be like God..but it is also important to examine the heart and motivation for doing something for God. If I think that doing these things means anything to my salvation then I've lost my faith and rely on myself and we are supposed to empty ourselves of ourselves.

 

[cindylou]

The Jews got it right. Seventh Day Adventists too. lol.

I'd quote the "not one jot or tittle" verse, but I guess that doesn't really mean what it means. Fuck the Sabbath! It's whenever you want it to be or not at all. That commandment wasn't as important as the rest of them obviously. I mean there's barely any mention of it in the NEW Testament after all. Pretty sure god didn't really mean to put that one in there anyway. lolol.

Fuck it! Why not toss out the other commandments too? If one is meaningless/worhtless, then surely they are all worthless.

wait.. the Seventh Day Adventists believe that Sunday worship is the mark of the beast..lol! THEY have it right? lol!

The sabbath in the OT was a lesson and a sign between God and Israel..not God and the church.


lol...ceo I'm convinced that you just don't read my posts. I don't see how after all this time we still can't communicate when it comes to this subject. I understand it very clearly and I see no issue where you keep bringing up things that just do not matter. I think it's silly I still luv you tho

not eating bacon is also a law and I've explained why I'm not bound to that...so you bring up another law I'm not bound to.

 

[cindylou]

"If you love me, keep my commandments."

Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself

 

[PICK3]

"If you love me, keep my commandments."

Why 10 commandments again?

If you "do right by people", e.g. the variation of the "golden rule" applicable to most religions ... you don't kill him, fuck his wife, steal his shit, etc ...

 

[PICK3]

and thy neighbour as thyself

what does this part mean to you?

 

[cindylou]

what does this part mean to you?

agape..it is love that "keeps loving when it’s object is unresponsive, unkind, unlovable, and completely unworthy”. It gives one hundred percent and expects nothing in return. It is an impossible love. As Peter Kraft says, that “goes beyond worth, beyond justice, beyond reason”.

Jesus had different feelings for everyone but loved them all equally and absolutely. This included his enemies. This type of love is not human. It is divine. It's also the only love that can satisfy us that does not depend on someone else to give us something. IMO it is the reason so many relationships fail and people become estranged from one another. It is this that we are to practice every day to God and to each other.

We are held to a higher standard than the laws of the OT because that one point takes care of the rest. It's the big picture.

 

[AFeedz]

Too bad man is pretty much incapable of agape except towards probably their own children.

 

[cindylou]

Too bad man is pretty much incapable of agape except towards probably their own children.

agape love is a natural outgrowth of love of God. If anyone claims to love God you will see it in their dealings with other people. It has nothing to do with how many inches of rain fell during the flood or what laws did the Jews follow in the OT and should be observe them today...

 

[AFeedz]

I'm not being argumentative when I say this, but I'm not following what that has to do with what I said? Are you saying you disagree that man is incapable of agape? I'm just clarifying. Im not sure what you meant.

Anyways, I don't think there's any difference in how someone who claims to love God deals with people and how a non-religious person with strong and good morals and character deals with people.