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Well to make a long story short I have been on androgell for the last 2 months ( I also been using primo @ 300mg) I am due to come off in July and try to get nat levels back to normal.
I was put on the gell because clomid was not really that effective and I was crashing hard( stress was a major factor in this equation)..depresion, low energy ect. So the doc said use the gell for a couple of months and then we will try again. I took it apon myself to throw in 300mg of primo to add some more muscle and leave the hPTA alone and let it just be effected by the low test doses. Also, I had blood work done to see if the gell was working and I did not want to throw him off using any other test.
Well, When i was using clomid i was getting that blury vision...( this has happened before but I figured since the doc actually wrote me the script for the clomid, and me being under his care I figured I would let hinm know.) He said out of 500 patients he has written a script for clomid I was the only one to experience this side effect...he was amazed
This worried him so I went to a special eye doc to see if there was any damage in my eyes and there was none. After this side effect he said to lay off the clomid and start the gell and we would go from there
Turns out that the eye doc dug up some studies on WOMEN experiencing the same symptoms ( blury vision)
and in some cases the problem did not go away after the clomid was discontinued......Pretty FUC*ING scary. There is no studies men he could find since it is a drug for women.
So in the end he wrote me a script for Tomaxafin aka Nolvadex and said to take it 3x's a day 3 days a week. He said it was a first cousin to clomid with no none side effects. He said this will kick start my nat test levels. I am going to take clomid anyway on the off days but Dam, if my eyes keep bluring I will stop. I could never go through life with that vision
Just thought I would share this since I myself thought it was interesting.
Also, I learned STRESS shuts down your HPTA. Pretty messed up. My levels were all the way back to close to normal and then worlk got a little crazy ( along with some other bullshit) and my levels dropped hence the gell...............
I was put on the gell because clomid was not really that effective and I was crashing hard( stress was a major factor in this equation)..depresion, low energy ect. So the doc said use the gell for a couple of months and then we will try again. I took it apon myself to throw in 300mg of primo to add some more muscle and leave the hPTA alone and let it just be effected by the low test doses. Also, I had blood work done to see if the gell was working and I did not want to throw him off using any other test.
Well, When i was using clomid i was getting that blury vision...( this has happened before but I figured since the doc actually wrote me the script for the clomid, and me being under his care I figured I would let hinm know.) He said out of 500 patients he has written a script for clomid I was the only one to experience this side effect...he was amazed
This worried him so I went to a special eye doc to see if there was any damage in my eyes and there was none. After this side effect he said to lay off the clomid and start the gell and we would go from there
Turns out that the eye doc dug up some studies on WOMEN experiencing the same symptoms ( blury vision)
and in some cases the problem did not go away after the clomid was discontinued......Pretty FUC*ING scary. There is no studies men he could find since it is a drug for women.
So in the end he wrote me a script for Tomaxafin aka Nolvadex and said to take it 3x's a day 3 days a week. He said it was a first cousin to clomid with no none side effects. He said this will kick start my nat test levels. I am going to take clomid anyway on the off days but Dam, if my eyes keep bluring I will stop. I could never go through life with that vision
Just thought I would share this since I myself thought it was interesting.
Also, I learned STRESS shuts down your HPTA. Pretty messed up. My levels were all the way back to close to normal and then worlk got a little crazy ( along with some other bullshit) and my levels dropped hence the gell...............
