SublimeZM said:everything exists. - a brain cannot create ideas and things without them being seen or described, even if it is by a "Crazy person"
but let me ask you, is the crazy one the person who sees things, or is it the person who does not?
Devastation said:no i don't and i've worked in a VERY old mental hospital where patients were basically tortured, some killed themselves, and where some very very demented people stayed. i've been in the morgue, the tunnels, the old empty buildings, in the middle of the nite with only my flashlight and never saw anything out of the extraordinary. there are plenty of people with stories out there that say they saw ghosts n shit, some people i would trust with my life, but i never saw them.
my ex wife believed in ghosts. dakotah believes in spirits, i think
i believe in deja vu and having flashes of the future sometimes, as i have repeatedly experienced that throughout my life tho
Devastation said:no i don't and i've worked in a VERY old mental hospital where patients were basically tortured, some killed themselves, and where some very very demented people stayed. i've been in the morgue, the tunnels, the old empty buildings, in the middle of the nite with only my flashlight and never saw anything out of the extraordinary. there are plenty of people with stories out there that say they saw ghosts n shit, some people i would trust with my life, but i never saw them.
my ex wife believed in ghosts. dakotah believes in spirits, i think
i believe in deja vu and having flashes of the future sometimes, as i have repeatedly experienced that throughout my life tho
how do you know a dream isnt real? a glimpse into another universe, or even you living an entire life in another universe and coming back to this one only remembering parts of it?1_more_rep said:man devasation you have some BALLS...i would never EVER be able to take being in half of the situations you were put in...i would get SO scared SO fast...
and sublime...the brain cannot "create" images?...let me ask you...what do you call a dream? is it not a sequence of created images in your mind?...the human mind is DEFINITELY able to create imagines...images we know and even those we believe to be supernatural...the brain is FAR more powerful than many people think...
SoreArms said:I didn't and to some degree still don't
However, my last ex claimed to see ghosts. We would walk into a house and she'd tell me things like "there's a ghost of a little boy that likes to hang around that corner" or go to the market and "that lady has the ghost of an old lady with her" etc..... I once saw something and said "what the fuck was that" a ghost she told me, I was always skeptical. One day, out of nowhere, the light bulbs on the stair way started blowing out. I would replace it and whithin hours, sometimes a day or two, it'd blow again. My windows would rattle at night, I'd hear foot steps of some one walking and sometimes running up and down the stairs, tapping on my window (second story) and all sorts of other creepy stuff that made me real scared to be home and specially try to sleep. She told me that a spirit had appeared in the stair case, for some reason it was attracted to me and wanted my attention. The light bulbs blowing out and the noises continued for several months, I continued to be scared. One day I decided to ignore it, I was not going turn around or feel scared every time I heard a sound, I was not going to think about "it" every time I felt scared. After a few weeks it was gone.
Was it real? Was it somehow all in my head? I don't know. However, I had not seen or experienced anything before I got with my ex, like Dev I've been all sorts of "spooky" places, and I have not seen or experienced anything since. Maybe it was all suggestive, maybe not.
SublimeZM said:how do you know a dream isnt real? a glimpse into another universe, or even you living an entire life in another universe and coming back to this one only remembering parts of it?
a dream is all a formation of things youv seen or expericned before anyway, you dont create never before possibly fathomed shapes or creatures in a dream
excellent point...i do beleive in them. have had a couple in my home...i live near buriel grounds from Chumash indians...up the street...SublimeZM said:everything exists. - a brain cannot create ideas and things without them being seen or described, even if it is by a "Crazy person"
but let me ask you, is the crazy one the person who sees things, or is it the person who does not?

nutsnack said:man i wish division was here to make a 2999999999999999 page thread about psychoanalysis about people who have seen ghosts.. he knows too b/c he took intro to psychology in college!

nutsnack said:man i wish division was here to make a 2999999999999999 page thread about psychoanalysis about people who have seen ghosts.. he knows too b/c he took intro to psychology in college!
UA_Iron said:yeah but then we'd all be annoyed as hell.
no i don't in fact someone i was getting to like told me this weekend they had seen a ghost.....bye bye freakshowstarfish said:Do you believe in ghosts or spirits? Good or bad ones? My supervisor told me today there was a ghost where we work and some of the things people have seen. I guess most people would say no unless they witnessed it themselves....boo
She gave me goosebumps with her ghost talk.
NJjuice22 said:ghosts no, demons yes.....you only see shit like that if you mess around with things you shouldnt be messing around with.
im stopping here, because your just bullshitting. you arnt a dream researcher, or a brain scientist. even if you were theres still no way to prove that you only remember things youv seen before. maybe thats because thats all you see1_more_rep said:well tests have been done to show that the brain is active as hell when people have dreams and pretty inactive (except for 24/7 processes) when you do not have a dream 1 night...that said it is pretty obvious that dreams are generated in the mind of a person and is not a whole other "LIFE" lol...
and not necessarily...do you recall EVERY part of your dream when you think about it? no...you only remember the parts that you are FAMILIAR with and things you've seen before...)
SublimeZM said:im stopping here, because your just bullshitting. you arnt a dream researcher, or a brain scientist. even if you were theres still no way to prove that you only remember things youv seen before. maybe thats because thats all you see
and also part of my point was, when you see things "you havnt seen before" you are getting a glimpse into other universes where such things exist. all things we can fathom exist, even if they only exist in the universe we have created within our own minds
how do u knownutsnack said:dreams are uncontrolled subconscience thoughts... they aren't a portal to another world!
SublimeZM said:everything exists. - a brain cannot create ideas and things without them being seen or described, even if it is by a "Crazy person"
but let me ask you, is the crazy one the person who sees things, or is it the person who does not?
how do u know a hallucination isnt just you seeing things that are unable to be seen sober.Mr. dB said:You obviously have never experienced a hallucination then.
SublimeZM said:how do u know a hallucination isnt just you seeing things that are unable to be seen sober.
thats what a hallucination is isnt it?
how do u know they arnt there even while sober, but just cannot be detected by you in your "normal" state
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