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Do we have any personal Trainers on here?

the_alcatraz

the_alcatraz

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Guys, I posted this in chat because it's not going to get enough attention in the PT forum.

How many people on here actually make a living through Personal training?
 
it's a shitty job in the overall scheme of things. Unless you're a celebrity trainer or pro athlete trainer/strength coach, which obviously takes years and years of work, luck and prestige.

It's pretty much a sales job...where you have to not only sell them, but still render a service that can be quite taxing. Yeah, you *can* make $50-100 a session but factor in the time it takes to get those clients and then the expenses related to that and you might as well be working as a file clerk. Not to mention you either have to pay rent to train people at a gym, get your own studio or have the gym you're working at take a nice size commission chunk. Not only that but the life cycle of clients tends to be relatively short and you constantly need to gather new business. If you get lucky, you'll have some clients that stick around for years that can afford it and just like your company/need someone to motivate them just to go. But that's become a lot more difficult in this economy.

you won't be rich being a trainer. you probably won't even be comfortable being a trainer.

as part time income on the side? Sure. it's not a bad supplement. If you have a few clients you train here and there and know they're going to be around for awhile (maybe at their house or condo/home gym so there's no overhead) it's not bad. Don't expect it to be a lucrative full time gig
 
I think wulfgar does it full time.

And bant for wrong forum thread.
 
calveless wonder said:
it's a shitty job in the overall scheme of things. Unless you're a celebrity trainer or pro athlete trainer/strength coach, which obviously takes years and years of work, luck and prestige.

It's pretty much a sales job...where you have to not only sell them, but still render a service that can be quite taxing. Yeah, you *can* make $50-100 a session but factor in the time it takes to get those clients and then the expenses related to that and you might as well be working as a file clerk. Not to mention you either have to pay rent to train people at a gym, get your own studio or have the gym you're working at take a nice size commission chunk. Not only that but the life cycle of clients tends to be relatively short and you constantly need to gather new business. If you get lucky, you'll have some clients that stick around for years that can afford it and just like your company/need someone to motivate them just to go. But that's become a lot more difficult in this economy.

you won't be rich being a trainer. you probably won't even be comfortable being a trainer.

as part time income on the side? Sure. it's not a bad supplement. If you have a few clients you train here and there and know they're going to be around for awhile (maybe at their house or condo/home gym so there's no overhead) it's not bad. Don't expect it to be a lucrative full time gig
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Hmm...that's very helpful thanks

How about doing it temp if you're in the market for a better full time gig?
 
the_alcatraz said:
Hmm...that's very helpful thanks

How about doing it temp if you're in the market for a better full time gig?
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negative

takes time to build a book of business. You're just eating shit for the most part in the beginning trying to get bidness

just like any sales job, you need to build a pipeline

would be stupid do it and then stop to work a full time gig.

unless it's a place where you're provided with clients, and usuaully the pay is a lot less (like $20 or so with limited hours0
 
calveless wonder said:
negative

takes time to build a book of business. You're just eating shit for the most part in the beginning trying to get bidness

just like any sales job, you need to build a pipeline

would be stupid do it and then stop to work a full time gig.

unless it's a place where you're provided with clients, and usuaully the pay is a lot less (like $20 or so with limited hours0
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Yes that's what I had in mind. Work at a corporate gym where they provide you with clients, at $20 an hour (they're taking $60) and then you can find your own in the gym as well.
 
Ballin!

Ask the gladiator 1987 how that worked for him!!!11

He had big pie-in-the-sky dreams how he'd be ballin son, at that gig too. Now he's waiting tables at Chili's. Yeah!
 
I'd expect the personal training business to be hyper-competitive.

There's probably lot's of 20 and 30-something guys who like to work out and think they can make a living doing something they like. There are virtually no barriers to entry either.

A huge (and successful) regional chain called "The Rush" seems to just let them hang-out wearing trainer shirts and they sink or swim based on how many hours they sell. I think they make minimum wage or less though.
 
I do marketing for a few personal trainers. As others like CW have pointed out, it ain't easy. You're a small biz owner who is selling a service. Lots of energy goes into sales and retention in a very overcrowded marketplace. From a marketing perspective, I've personally been enjoying being involved b/c it's relatively easy to differentiate yourself, at least through your promotional channels (end of the day, service is what really matters). But most trainers focus almost 100% of the hour they spend with their clients each day and forget that the other 23 hours are just as vauable in terms of relationship building....
 
one guy i know makes good living...but he works at a private gym...and the gym is only for training...whoever goes there does it to be trained not to work out alone... its catered towards more wealthier people (in miami) lawyers doctors etc...

anyone else i have ever known to work as a trainer doesnt do any better then working at best buy
 
PICK3 said:
The economy hurt your regular job, or you're just looking for a change?
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I got something good (potentially) lined-up...I'm talking reeal good and it's 75%...I would need to dedicate major time for it though....plus all of the above
 
I think you should go for it alcatraz. dont listen to the negativity. people laughed at me and tried to tell me not to do what i do when i was 19. they said that its not a job you can have as a career blah blah blah. now I am very successful.

if you are great at it then you will be able to make a very good living at it. and your clients will flock to you.. most personal trainers are horrible, i watch them in the gym and i've seen them in action. yawning while their client is doing a set for example, and they wonder why they dont make money at it.

i say ignore the haters and go for it.

any job you can make money at if you are good. even a garbage man can start up his own collection service, land a few contracts and be good to go. its all about being positive and taking advantage of opportunities.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Premier Fitness
LA Fitness
Goodlife Fitness

All in my neighborhood
All offer the same gig

I'm in Canada bro
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i didnt read the last pages but in america LA fitness pays their trainers 6 dollars per half an hour. so for you to make 12 an hour there cant be any gaps in your schedule. and filling it to a good amount of hours everyweek is hard and requires sucking the sales guys dicks to make them book new people with you.
 
twenty47 said:
i didnt read the last pages but in america LA fitness pays their trainers 6 dollars per half an hour. so for you to make 12 an hour there cant be any gaps in your schedule. and filling it to a good amount of hours everyweek is hard and requires sucking the sales guys dicks to make them book new people with you.
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In Canada you make $20 an hour.
 
stevesmi said:
I think you should go for it alcatraz. dont listen to the negativity. people laughed at me and tried to tell me not to do what i do when i was 19. they said that its not a job you can have as a career blah blah blah. now I am very successful.

if you are great at it then you will be able to make a very good living at it. and your clients will flock to you.. most personal trainers are horrible, i watch them in the gym and i've seen them in action. yawning while their client is doing a set for example, and they wonder why they dont make money at it.

i say ignore the haters and go for it.

any job you can make money at if you are good. even a garbage man can start up his own collection service, land a few contracts and be good to go. its all about being positive and taking advantage of opportunities.
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Thanks for the positive feedback bro, but this is just a temp thing that I'm considering
 
i agree with stevesmi it can be done. it all depends on the person. ive seen a few guys really make it at LA. but all of them were sales people for training not the actuall trainer. its all about personality and how you treat the person. with women if you cant get chicks u cant sell training. i hear it all the time and its the same with memberships. you have to be in shape too. it really does matter
 
twenty47 said:
i agree with stevesmi it can be done. it all depends on the person. ive seen a few guys really make it at LA. but all of them were sales people for training not the actuall trainer. its all about personality and how you treat the person. with women if you cant get chicks u cant sell training. i hear it all the time and its the same with memberships. you have to be in shape too. it really does matter
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I work in sales now. Starting to make some legit money, but it's slower than usual and i'm tired of it.

This is / might be a temp. thing until a better gig (I have something lined up if I get it)
 
stevesmi said:
I think you should go for it alcatraz. dont listen to the negativity. people laughed at me and tried to tell me not to do what i do when i was 19. they said that its not a job you can have as a career blah blah blah. now I am very successful.

if you are great at it then you will be able to make a very good living at it. and your clients will flock to you.. most personal trainers are horrible, i watch them in the gym and i've seen them in action. yawning while their client is doing a set for example, and they wonder why they dont make money at it.

i say ignore the haters and go for it.

any job you can make money at if you are good. even a garbage man can start up his own collection service, land a few contracts and be good to go. its all about being positive and taking advantage of opportunities.
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lol @ using the garbageman comparison like it's a janitor. Garbageman and anyone in waste management (aside from a peon) have and always will make serious coin. That's a six figure business all day if you can actually get the capital to get a truck and a route or two.
 
calveless wonder said:
lol @ using the garbageman comparison like it's a janitor. Garbageman and anyone in waste management (aside from a peon) have and always will make serious coin. That's a six figure business all day if you can actually get the capital to get a truck and a route or two.
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that's crazy bro...but I think he was just being motivating lol
 
the_alcatraz said:
There are 70 calories in a normal breaded chicken wing...that's without the sauce.
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see bro? You're a natural for Chili's! Hell, I bet you could wind up managing one very soon. Maybe move up to like District Manager in a few short years.

CW, alcatraz will be your server.
 
You can make good money (I do) but generally not at the beginning and not working for a chain gym. Right now I'm stuck working for one because I just moved to this city and they provide lots of access to people. More people = more clients faster.

I started at my gym for two months and had a full roster - meaning I'm training 30-35 paying sessions per week (including classes and my running group). That is where I cut myself off because working more than that is stupid in this business. I have a small waiting list starting as well and I'm starting to build a good reputation, but it takes 6-12 months and then I'll go out on my own like I was before, which is where you make much better money. Right now I'm making chump change compared to what I was, but it's necessary due to being in a new city. I know that will change. I was formerly making about $1000 a week working 20-25 hours actually training. Not bad for that amount of time invested - sometimes I worked 2 hours a day, sometimes 10. Right now a typical day is 5am-11am and then 4pm-7pm but I'm working more because I'm making far less/hour.

The difference however between me and the typical gym trainer is that I have several high level certs, ten years of experience and I'm very specialized in injury management and endurance sports - something noone else in most gyms have because all they care about is bodybuilding. Meaning, when people walk in who need these things - I'm it. Even the other trainers refer people to me because they have no idea what they are doing. I also give excellent service and I'm 100% focused on my clients when I'm with them - other people at the gym really notice that.

So can you make good money? Yes. Does it take hard work and a lot of commitment to your clients? Yes. Long crazy hours? Yes. Stressful cycles of income? Yes. No paid vacation? Yes.

Oh, and you make no money for the first 3-6 months while you are building your client base. That sucks.
 
ponyfitness said:
You can make good money (I do) but generally not at the beginning and not working for a chain gym. Right now I'm stuck working for one because I just moved to this city and they provide lots of access to people. More people = more clients faster.

I started at my gym for two months and had a full roster - meaning I'm training 30-35 paying sessions per week (including classes and my running group). That is where I cut myself off because working more than that is stupid in this business. I have a small waiting list starting as well and I'm starting to build a good reputation, but it takes 6-12 months and then I'll go out on my own like I was before, which is where you make much better money. Right now I'm making chump change compared to what I was, but it's necessary due to being in a new city. I know that will change. I was formerly making about $1000 a week working 20-25 hours actually training. Not bad for that amount of time invested - sometimes I worked 2 hours a day, sometimes 10. Right now a typical day is 5am-11am and then 4pm-7pm but I'm working more because I'm making far less/hour.

The difference however between me and the typical gym trainer is that I have several high level certs, ten years of experience and I'm very specialized in injury management and endurance sports - something noone else in most gyms have because all they care about is bodybuilding. Meaning, when people walk in who need these things - I'm it. Even the other trainers refer people to me because they have no idea what they are doing. I also give excellent service and I'm 100% focused on my clients when I'm with them - other people at the gym really notice that.

So can you make good money? Yes. Does it take hard work and a lot of commitment to your clients? Yes. Long crazy hours? Yes. Stressful cycles of income? Yes. No paid vacation? Yes.

Oh, and you make no money for the first 3-6 months while you are building your client base. That sucks.
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So, would you recommend it to a guy who says this:

the_alcatraz said:
This is / might be a temp. thing until a better gig (I have something lined up if I get it)
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??????????
 
ceo said:
see bro? You're a natural for Chili's! Hell, I bet you could wind up managing one very soon. Maybe move up to like District Manager in a few short years.

CW, alcatraz will be your server.
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Do you want fries with that shake, ma'am?
 
ceo said:
So, would you recommend it to a guy who says this:

??????????
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Definitely not. Too many trainers get into the business because they think they will be able to get paid to look good and work out, and forget that they have a fundamental effect on people's lives - whether in a good or really bad way.

I can probably count on both hands in ten years the trainers I have met that actually give a shit about their clients more than just seeing them as dollar signs. And it pisses me off every time I walk into a new gym and deal with the same crappy trainers, especially when they think they know everything.
 
stevesmi said:
I think you should go for it alcatraz. dont listen to the negativity. people laughed at me and tried to tell me not to do what i do when i was 19. they said that its not a job you can have as a career blah blah blah. now I am very successful.

if you are great at it then you will be able to make a very good living at it. and your clients will flock to you.. most personal trainers are horrible, i watch them in the gym and i've seen them in action. yawning while their client is doing a set for example, and they wonder why they dont make money at it.

i say ignore the haters and go for it.

any job you can make money at if you are good. even a garbage man can start up his own collection service, land a few contracts and be good to go. its all about being positive and taking advantage of opportunities.
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lol@Mr cup half full


that's not the way we do things around here
 
the_alcatraz said:
Thanks for the positive feedback bro, but this is just a temp thing that I'm considering
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absolutely. i have thought about going into eastern medicine or dietician, just cause i like to share knowledge and help people. not really caring about the money factor, i really would enjoy spending time doing this.

also have considered law, but pro bono work. again the money isn't a factor at all. if you spend your days doing something you enjoy its more important then money. lots of docs hate their jobs yet are paid hundreds of thousands per year. i'm good friends with a doc who makes 500K per year and absolutely hates being a doctor and isn't a happy person at all.

so i would definately go for it cause you have a lot of talent for this
 
calveless wonder said:
lol @ using the garbageman comparison like it's a janitor. Garbageman and anyone in waste management (aside from a peon) have and always will make serious coin. That's a six figure business all day if you can actually get the capital to get a truck and a route or two.
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i think the point of my post went way over your head bro. re-read it a couple times.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
lol@Mr cup half full


that's not the way we do things around here
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yeah i've noticed, i actually do enjoy the banter on this forum but i am not into the ripping people to shreds, i just dont get a high from it like most of ya'll on here:biggrin:

alcatraz is a fellow leb and if you know any leb's you know that we are successful at everything we do so i wouldn't bet against him. :chomp::chomp::chomp::chomp:
 
stevesmi said:
yeah i've noticed, i actually do enjoy the banter on this forum but i am not into the ripping people to shreds, i just dont get a high from it like most of ya'll on here:biggrin:

alcatraz is a fellow leb and if you know any leb's you know that we are successful at everything we do so i wouldn't bet against him. :chomp::chomp::chomp::chomp:
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This. Lebanese people make it everywhere regardless of what they do.
 
Pass. However as a partime gig to fill any spare time you might have, sure.

A dude i went to school with tried to get on with the Bears as a trainer... so did over a thousand other people though. Needless to say, he didn't get the job. Tough market.

HOWEVER, if you could get on at a local hospital for rehabilitaion or even a rehab assistant, that would be a much better option

Whiskey
 
Whiskey said:
HOWEVER, if you could get on at a local hospital for rehabilitaion or even a rehab assistant, that would be a much better option

Whiskey
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need schooling for that. OT/PT or OTA/PTA
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Unlike you, I don't seek validation through strangers on the internet. Head back to the bruised ego forum at the top of the page if you want to see pics of half naked men.
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Yeh ok bro...w/e

Posting pictures on a fitness forum is the ghey I get you.... :sarcastic:
 
PuddleMonkey said:
As a moderator you should know where the appropriate forums are for such things.


Chat & Conversation (374 Viewing)
A forum for all non-bodybuilding talk!
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Again, changing the subject...

I never asked you to post pictures on this forum...I asked you to post pictures period.

You don't have to....you too can say: "I'll post pictures on Christmas."
 
the_alcatraz said:
I never asked you to post pictures on this forum...I asked you to post pictures period.
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You came into C&C and requested pictures from a couple different guys. You can try to twist and turn it any way you like, but facts are facts.

the_alcatraz said:
You don't have to....you too can say: "I'll post pictures on Christmas."
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And once again, I have posted pictures before. It just wasn't for the same reasons you do. Sorry I don't have self esteem issues and need you to validate my existence.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
You came into C&C and requested pictures from a couple different guys. You can try to twist and turn it any way you like, but facts are facts.



And once again, I have posted pictures before. It just wasn't for the same reasons you do. Sorry I don't have self esteem issues and need you to validate my existence.
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Don't worry bro...I wont judge. I know you secretly love me :)
 
i've seen puds pics and honestly the dude wasn't fat, just a bigmofo.
offensive guard sorta build.
puds does my memory serve me correct?
and irl puds name is bland as fukall
 
I'm a fucking personal trainer, what you ngrs need to know?
 
lol @ weakmo being any help whatsoever.
 
Oh you need to get ripped, "Up yo dose ngr," advice from Strongbow's Personal Training Academy.
 
Strongbow said:
Oh you need to get ripped, "Up yo dose ngr," advice from Strongbow's Personal Training Academy.
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The "chosen one" needs to STFU or I'll change his name to the "fucked up beyond recognition one"

Did I sound intimidating bro or do I still need to work on it?
 
the_alcatraz said:
The "chosen one" needs to STFU or I'll change his name to the "fucked up beyond recognition one"

Did I sound intimidating bro or do I still need to work on it?
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LOLZ, keep working on it, The Chosen One gets paid in Poosie from his female clients, and generally they tip a couple extra bucks for hours of endless pounding.
 
Since we are on the subject, the dude that owns my gym, says he can certify me to train bishes. He told me this cause like 20 mutha fuckers, want to train with me, and the most are indeed Hoes. Can a gym owner do this?
 
Strongbow said:
Since we are on the subject, the dude that owns my gym, says he can certify me to train bishes. He told me this cause like 20 mutha fuckers, want to train with me, and the most are indeed Hoes. Can a gym owner do this?
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if the ngr says he can he probably can. u owe me a pm lol
 
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