dnp is absolutely insane..

[Phaded]

ill have my air on 68 at night.. fan full blast and wake up completely soaked..

get a towel to sleep on wake up 45 mins last towel is completely soaked..

be sitting at my desk typing for 5 mins completely soaked..

mowed the lawn yesterday felt like i had just ran a fucking marathon lungs felt like they were bleeding etc..

and i'm at a womans dosage i'd think right now ..

i can't believe people can actually go into work being on dnp..

i was outside the other day prob. was 80 degrees walked about 200 yards looked like i had just got finished playing a 50 minute basketball game..

can't wait to see the final results..

 

[binö]

what does your wife think about this?
so it destroys your wind?

 

[Tatyana]

Please keep posting so we know you are not dead.

Seriously.

Before and after pics and what happens in the months after coming off would also be appreciated.

 

[canadianhitman]

bad idea...

call me old fashioned, but I'd rather take a little longer to get lean doing cardio and dieting than poison myself with a toxin that can literally cook my organs if the dosing is off

 

[Phaded]

she dont care.. its a way to get me not to drink.. i think drinking and dnp is a deadly combo at least in my mind it is..

so she's actually happy about it..

 

[Tatyana]

bad idea...

call me old fashioned, but I'd rather take a little longer to get lean doing cardio and dieting than poison myself with a toxin that can literally cook my organs if the dosing is off

I think it was actually designed as a fungacide wood preservative.

 

[needtogetaas]

Just so you know. This shit can kill you. Its no joke.

 

[binö]

phaded do you smoke out on a reg basis?
and what is the point in dnp if you are not competing?

 

[manny78]

and pesticide, explosives... name them. Can't see a single reason why someone would take that crap.... seriously....

 

[canadianhitman]

Clenbuterol + T3 is much safer, and I don't know too many people who need a more potent fat-burning boost that that

 

[puddlemonkey]

Double the dose!!!

 

[Phaded]

ramped up gonna prob. stay at the dosage i'm at.. prob. gonna go another 3 days.. than go off wait a week and do another 7..

its near impossible to diet when you have a pregnant wife..

shits working good though.. i'm loving it.. when i go off i'm gonna guarantee at least a 10 lb loss..

 

[manny78]

ramped up gonna prob. stay at the dosage i'm at.. prob. gonna go another 3 days.. than go off wait a week and do another 7..

its near impossible to diet when you have a pregnant wife..

shits working good though.. i'm loving it.. when i go off i'm gonna guarantee at least a 10 lb loss..

But what's the point ? I mean as far as I know you're not making any money out of this like some pro do. Why ? I'd probably see the point for a pro who's trying to go from 6% to something like 5% but just cant with other fatburners. Bro, this shit is serious...

 

[puddlemonkey]

What Would Jesus Do?

 

[borris]

LOL @ all the d.n.p. haters


shit works better than any fatburner and if used wisely and safetly it will show better results than any 3 times a day cardio workout - 3 gram cycle will do ever.


keep carbs high and fat low



has your piss started turning neon orange yet?

 

[ceo]

What Would Jesus Do?

smoke teh herb

 

[Phaded]

But what's the point ? I mean as far as I know you're not making any money out of this like some pro do. Why ? I'd probably see the point for a pro who's trying to go from 6% to something like 5% but just cant with other fatburners. Bro, this shit is serious...

i'm doing it safely.. i've asked people who've had the same goals as mine with same stats.. and i'm being as precautious as possible.. drinking mad water taking every vitamin known to man 3 times a day... i haven't been working out or even really going outside.. i dont really think i'm taking that big of a risk.. millions of people have died from overdosing on coke yet no one back in the day used to talk shit about it when i'd partake in my crazy weekends..

just cause a few uncareful uneducated peeps have died from dnp doesn't make it the most dangerous drug on the planet.. from what i've read most people who've died from dnp didn't know about it.. it really takes almost 3 days for it to be in your system.. so by day 3 i felt at the dose i was taking i'd up the dosage.. so i did this is my 2nd day at the increased dosage..

what happened to people who died was by day 3 they didn't really feel shit so they'd quadruple the dosage and then death occured.. its not hard to be educated with something before you take it not only by reading associated risks etc with it.. but by getting knowledge of other peoples experiences..

i'm not using clenbuterol again.. its really hard for me to do any sort of cardio cause i get horrible back pumps and shin splints.. at the moment its near impossible for me to diet as my wife is pregnant and we eat whatever she wants..

 

[Phaded]

LOL @ all the d.n.p. haters


shit works better than any fatburner and if used wisely and safetly it will show better results than any 3 times a day cardio workout - 3 gram cycle will do ever.


keep carbs high and fat low



has your piss started turning neon orange yet?

nah no orange piss yet.. think i should run it 10 days? or just stick with the 7.. i aint gonna increase the dosage anymore as i'm already sweating more than i'd like too.. this shit surely does make you feel miserable..

funny thing is at night i dont feel i'm sweating anymore than i did when i was on test/eq.. but during day when i'm just walking around thats whats pretty interesting..

 

[Phaded]

LOL @ all the d.n.p. haters


shit works better than any fatburner and if used wisely and safetly it will show better results than any 3 times a day cardio workout - 3 gram cycle will do ever.


keep carbs high and fat low



has your piss started turning neon orange yet?

nah no orange piss yet.. think i should run it 10 days? or just stick with the 7.. i aint gonna increase the dosage anymore as i'm already sweating more than i'd like too.. this shit surely does make you feel miserable..

funny thing is at night i dont feel i'm sweating anymore than i did when i was on test/Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - .. but during day when i'm just walking around thats whats pretty interesting..

 

[borris]

Phaded the first time I ran D.N.P. it was at 300mg's for 20 days.... I lost a pound a day...

You know what the best thing about D.N.P. is? It is permanent fat cell destruction, it actually burns fat cells off instead of shrinking them.

 

[AAP]

I hated it. It is nothing but a total body poison.

You could get BETTER results from using PGCL for 2 weeks. DNP is only temporary until you have your water retention rebound.

 

[Wulfgar]

Ive seen a couple guys I know do really well on a DNP/insulin stack

i know it sounds dangerous but I can list numerous reasons why and how it can be brutally effective.

 

[borris]

Ive seen a couple guys I know do really well on a dnp - dinitrophenol - /insulin stack

i know it sounds dangerous but I can list numerous reasons why and how it can be brutally effective.

can you elaborate more on the effectiveness of this

 

[jh1]

I hated it. It is nothing but a total body poison.

You could get BETTER results from using PGCL for 2 weeks. dnp - dinitrophenol - is only temporary until you have your water retention rebound.

what is PGCL?

 

[Wulfgar]

can you elaborate more on the effectiveness of this

I posted a big argument for its effectiveness on the steroid board a few years back. we need a platty to go find it.

 

[Phaded]

I hated it. It is nothing but a total body poison.

You could get BETTER results from using PGCL for 2 weeks. dnp - dinitrophenol - is only temporary until you have your water retention rebound.

brother no one is carrying pgcl or i def would have went that route..

 

[Phaded]

Phaded the first time I ran D.N.P. it was at 300mg's for 20 days.... I lost a pound a day...

You know what the best thing about D.N.P. is? It is permanent fat cell destruction, it actually burns fat cells off instead of shrinking them.

ya i'm at 200 right now i dont think ill go higher.. unless i run it longer than 7-10 days

 

[AAP]

brother no one is carrying pgcl or i def would have went that route..

I have only known one person to carry it.

Isn't he still around?

 

[AAP]

what is PGCL?

A Nuclear Level Shit Inducer.

 

[Phaded]

I have only known one person to carry it.

Isn't he still around?

i couldn't get info on him and i thought he went into hiding.. another person had it but they said they wouldn't have it back in stock till mid december which means like feb.

 

[digimon7068]

Clenbuterol + T3 is much safer, and I don't know too many people who need a more potent fat-burning boost that that

i can't even handle clen. . .not even a small dose. . .that friggin' shit is toxic to my system. . .if dnp is worse, it would certainly kill me. . .i'm with the canadian, extra cardio and keeping my diet in check are the only way for me to go. . .

 

[digimon7068]

oh yeah. . .and don't kill yourself you fucking idiot. . .i've become quite fond of you over the last few months. . .

 

[Wulfgar]

A Nuclear Level Shit Inducer.

Get PGF2A in an il suspension. The water based you have to do too many site based injections(up to 5 a day) and you shit immediately. the oild based type you only hae to shit after about an hour and it is usually a large like 3.5 foot solid turd

 

[Smurfy]

phaded do you smoke out on a reg basis?
and what is the point in dnp - dinitrophenol - if you are not competing?

good questions

also, whats your training routine look like?

 

[Phaded]

smoke out = no i rarely smoke weed last time i did was prob. like 2 months ago.. and it was cause my boy left like a bowl of krippy over here..

training right now i'm doing random shit.. ill go to the gym and hit diff body parts mix it up etc..

i was on a bodypart a day split but my workout partner's parents stopped paying for his shit..

gonna run this dnp lose some good weight and then get on a sick endurance program..

 

[binö]

smoke out = no i rarely smoke weed last time i did was prob. like 2 months ago.. and it was cause my boy left like a bowl of krippy over here..

training right now i'm doing random shit.. ill go to the gym and hit diff body parts mix it up etc..

i was on a bodypart a day split but my workout partner's parents stopped paying for his shit..

gonna run this dnp - dinitrophenol - lose some good weight and then get on a sick endurance program..

what type of endurance program?
what's your goals with that?
cardio training is addictive, i'm fully hooked
fun making progress, each time i hit the track i get stronger and faster
apparently weed has not fucked up my lungs too much, i'm starting to pwn

 

[Phaded]

what type of endurance program?
what's your goals with that?
cardio training is addictive, i'm fully hooked
fun making progress, each time i hit the track i get stronger and faster
apparently weed has not fucked up my lungs too much, i'm starting to pwn

goals for strength training is basically just to make me feel and look better .. i did the whole get big and super strong shit and i'm over it.. i'm over walking around and sweating cause i'm carrying 255 lbs.. .. its cool to a point but i dont really think its necessary anymore.. i wanted to be huge and ripped but i'm out of that stage..

what i'm honestly trying to get into is some type of fighting either mma or boxing..

this guy in the training log forum has a sick thread cooljc.. lots of sprints jumps and oly lifts for increasing quickness vertical and endurance ill prob. be mimicing alot of his shit..

so i'm basically gonna cut down get as low as possible and go from there.. gonna really try hard to implement a very clean diet as well.. cut alcohol only drink water..

obviously it aint gonna work to perfection as my wife is pregnant and loves to cook.. so ill have to change up the shit i eat while she's at work.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

mkay theres some misinformation in this threa, and im fixin it

first, theres no such thing as "doing it safely" - people die even at normal (200mg or less) doses. other people can run stupendous doses and be fine. personally the highest dose i got to was on about day 5 or something of a cycle and i hit 700mg

second, there isnt permanent fat cell death in any literature ive found. the way this stuff works is to cause an increase in metabolism body wide. thats it. theres no targetted fat destruction. thats also crap.

if youre going to do dnp id really like to see you with 1) a thermometer (those baby ones you put under your tongue are fine) and 2) a really accurate set of digital scales, so taht you know how hydrated you are - if your bodyweight dips too low in a short period of time, then you know to drink more

if you overheat, your best friend is the shower - dont use the bath, if you faint, you drown. the nice thing about the shower is that you can drink water as it comes down if neccessary

pics would be nice, i didnt take enough pics when i was on the stuff, and wish i did.

borris: when you lost a pound a day, what was your startout bf%? what did you end up at? im thinking about running a cycle so i get veins on my abs or something, that would be cool - but im not terribly fat at the moment so i dont know how ill go

cheerios

 

[javaguru]

mkay theres some misinformation in this threa, and im fixin it

first, theres no such thing as "doing it safely" - people die even at normal (200mg or less) doses. other people can run stupendous doses and be fine. personally the highest dose i got to was on about day 5 or something of a cycle and i hit 700mg

second, there isnt permanent fat cell death in any literature ive found. the way this stuff works is to cause an increase in metabolism body wide. thats it. theres no targetted fat destruction. thats also crap.

if youre going to do dnp - dinitrophenol - id really like to see you with 1) a thermometer (those baby ones you put under your tongue are fine) and 2) a really accurate set of digital scales, so taht you know how hydrated you are - if your bodyweight dips too low in a short period of time, then you know to drink more

if you overheat, your best friend is the shower - dont use the bath, if you faint, you drown. the nice thing about the shower is that you can drink water as it comes down if neccessary

pics would be nice, i didnt take enough pics when i was on the stuff, and wish i did.

borris: when you lost a pound a day, what was your startout bf%? what did you end up at? im thinking about running a cycle so i get veins on my abs or something, that would be cool - but im not terribly fat at the moment so i dont know how ill go

cheerios

Borris is a typical e-cred...street cred bullshitter..I haven't seen him post a single picture of himself....I'm far from jacked and buffed and I posted pics of myself with my advice....

 

[samoth]

second, there isnt permanent fat cell death in any literature ive found. the way this stuff works is to cause an increase in metabolism body wide. thats it. theres no targetted fat destruction. thats also crap.

People are saying that now? LOL, pathetic how easily misinformation spreads like a wildfire across the forums.

 

[javaguru]

People are saying that now? LOL, pathetic how easily misinformation spreads like a wildfire across the forums.

In the past, myths of drugs accelerating fat loss have propagated among the juicers...they don't need science...they need anecdotes...

 

[all the whey]

 

[all the whey]

 

[digimon7068]

Borris is a typical e-cred...street cred bullshitter..I haven't seen him post a single picture of himself....I'm far from jacked and buffed and I posted pics of myself with my advice....

borris is tr. . .he's posted a bunch of pictures of himself. . .

 

[Smurfy]

Borris is a typical e-cred...street cred bullshitter..I haven't seen him post a single picture of himself....I'm far from jacked and buffed and I posted pics of myself with my advice....

what do youmean?
youve never seen pics of him with that Myspace pucker?

 

[Phaded]

borris is tr. . .he's posted a bunch of pictures of himself. . .

ya borris is much more jacked than homoguru and doesn't revolve his life around being negative and trying to convince others that God is fake..

 

[Wulfgar]

I am telling you guys. Use DNP with Insulin. Let me break it down for you like this.
1. Insulin is the most anabolic drug we have access too. Problem is its anablism is not tissue specific. Tis means alot of good bros ue slin and get the marshmellow man syndrome.
a. Slin stimulate the SPP which increases nutrient transport into cells
- Obviously we need increase amino acid delivery to suprephysiological levels in order to facilitate the greatest possible gains in muscle size.
b. Slin increases anabolism and RNA activity
c. Slin is also beleived to increase DNA activity in a way that causes up-regulation in DNA initiated AA syntesis.
d. THE AA's primarily affected are the BCAA's
e. Slin inhibits protein breakdown by interfereing with lysosomes. unfortunately Slin also inhibits fat loss.

So imagine we have a way to get al the muscle building benefits of Slin without the fatty syndrome happening. Good news! Enter a deadly chemical called Dinitrophenal!

DNP
1: Oxidative phosphorylation uncoupler
a. lowers the effiecnc of this to about 40%( lots of ATP-ATP conversion)
- to keep up levels of ATP the body goes into hyperdrive; metabolism increased, incredible amounts of KCals are burned. Due to this dire need for ATP producion most of the calories come from fat. So the good news is very very little or no musce is lost as long as protein intake is adequate.
b. By preventing oxidative metabolism increased energy demands are contested in cells by increaseing glucose uptake rapidly( about 200% normal in SKELETAL MUSCL CELLS). remind you anything of Insulin?!?!/ ok now we are catching on.
c. Scientictif studies have suggested interfereing with Mitochondrial TP production acts o signal transduction pathway form independant from that of insulin. This basically means that our muscles will have a trememndous capacity to metabolise glucose(nearly twice what insulin gives us without the concurrent fat gains)
d. DNP helps to induce an environment of insulin resistance in Fatty tissue sites making it harder for the fat cells to get food.


So basically DNP increases caloric heat expendature, increases glucose transport into msucle cells and decreases fat cell activity.

DNP/Insulin combo
1. Interestingly enough utilizing these compounds together will result in dramatic increase of LBM and a disticnt LACK of hypoglycemia. Great news! Dying from insulin induced hypoglycemia sucks! How does this work?
a. Basically DNP truncates the N-terminal aspect of Insulin when it comes into contact. This results in a growth factor called DES (1-3) IGF-1. FYI that molecule is far more anabolic than IGF-1.
b. The insulin and IGF-1 receptors themselves are changed(truncated) by the prescnece of DNP. In this case this truncation is effecting the COOH-terminal response thus altering the hypoglycemic and anabolic effects of insulin positively toward IGF-1 activity.


ok, thats it
all that being said. I wouldnt recommend trying it.

 

[Phaded]

fuck some of you bodybuilders should be doctors..

 

[Kano]

fuck some of you bodybuilders should be doctors..

I hope you taking it easy bro.. Don't drop dead on us

 

[Phaded]

got a basketball game tonight.. i work out of my house so i aint really active.. ill prob. just run one half in the basketball game..

i'm straight been hydrating the shite out of myself..

shaved my arms today and i haven't been this vascular in a while.. multi branches veins on the inside of my biceps.. haven't had that since i was on 100 mg anavar only for 4..

anyhow all is going well i really like this shit.. but wish i would have found a source for pgcl.. which i found yesterday.. before i did this.. i'd rather do something that isn't gonna risk my life and have basically the same results..

ill prob. run dnp 2 cycles of 10 days..

cut if for 2 months than run some pgcl for a while.. see how that does me.. i really wanna get down low bf.. not to mention i can actually prob. workout on pgcl.. woohoo!

 

[GoldenDelicious]

I am telling you guys. Use dnp - dinitrophenol - with Insulin. Let me break it down for you like this.
1. Insulin is the most anabolic drug we have access too. Problem is its anablism is not tissue specific. Tis means alot of good bros ue insulin and get the marshmellow man syndrome.
a. Slin stimulate the SPP which increases nutrient transport into cells
- Obviously we need increase amino acid delivery to suprephysiological levels in order to facilitate the greatest possible gains in muscle size.
b. Slin increases anabolism and RNA activity
c. Slin is also beleived to increase DNA activity in a way that causes up-regulation in DNA initiated AA syntesis.
d. THE AA's primarily affected are the BCAA's
e. Slin inhibits protein breakdown by interfereing with lysosomes. unfortunately Slin also inhibits fat loss.

So imagine we have a way to get al the muscle building benefits of Slin without the fatty syndrome happening. Good news! Enter a deadly chemical called Dinitrophenal!

DNP
1: Oxidative phosphorylation uncoupler
a. lowers the effiecnc of this to about 40%( lots of ATP-ATP conversion)
- to keep up levels of ATP the body goes into hyperdrive; metabolism increased, incredible amounts of KCals are burned. Due to this dire need for ATP producion most of the calories come from fat. So the good news is very very little or no musce is lost as long as protein intake is adequate.
b. By preventing oxidative metabolism increased energy demands are contested in cells by increaseing glucose uptake rapidly( about 200% normal in SKELETAL MUSCL CELLS). remind you anything of Insulin?!?!/ ok now we are catching on.
c. Scientictif studies have suggested interfereing with Mitochondrial TP production acts o signal transduction pathway form independant from that of insulin. This basically means that our muscles will have a trememndous capacity to metabolise glucose(nearly twice what insulin gives us without the concurrent fat gains)
d. DNP helps to induce an environment of insulin resistance in Fatty tissue sites making it harder for the fat cells to get food.


So basically DNP increases caloric heat expendature, increases glucose transport into msucle cells and decreases fat cell activity.

DNP/Insulin combo
1. Interestingly enough utilizing these compounds together will result in dramatic increase of LBM and a disticnt LACK of hypoglycemia. Great news! Dying from insulin induced hypoglycemia sucks! How does this work?
a. Basically DNP truncates the N-terminal aspect of Insulin when it comes into contact. This results in a growth factor called DES (1-3) IGF-1. FYI that molecule is far more anabolic than IGF-1.
b. The insulin and IGF-1 receptors themselves are changed(truncated) by the prescnece of DNP. In this case this truncation is effecting the COOH-terminal response thus altering the hypoglycemic and anabolic effects of insulin positively toward IGF-1 activity.


ok, thats it
all that being said. I wouldnt recommend trying it.

on the flipside, if youre using insulin to shuttle all of the nutrients out of your blood, and simultaneously using dnp to burn everything up, then youre running the risk of not having enough available fuel, which would mean...collapse. organ shutdown. unfun stuff like that

 

[Phaded]

played in a basketball game tonight.. was so out of breath at one point had to shut it down mid way through second quarter..

hopefully its the dnp i really hope to god i'm not that out of shape..

 

[borris]

LOL @ Java throwing a temper tantrum about me

Golden, my 3rd cycle on D.N.P. I finally figured out how to diet and nutrition myself correctly when I seen those results. I went from 215 11%bf to 200 9-9.5%%bf in 20 short days and then I lost another 5lbs the first week after I came off (mostly just water retention)

I completely cut carbs from my diet 4 days before I started to deplete my glycogen so the D.N.P. would start working immediatly. I ate low low low fats, mediocre-high carbs from days 5-20

overloaded on these:
Magnesium
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
NAC
Calcium

I took an appetite supressor called phentermine to kick food cravings - which probably was the biggest advantage, gave me amazing energy and made all foods taste like shit

I also took 80mgs T-3 daily since D.N.P. shuts down your natural T-3 production

I was doing lots of light cardio (inclined walking on a tredmill/eliptical) for an hour each day with only a 30-45 min. lift



Extremely impressed by the overall results, but every D.N.P. cycle i've ran, I have never realized the results until a week or so after i've come off..

 

[javaguru]

ya borris is much more jacked than homoguru and doesn't revolve his life around being negative and trying to convince others that God is fake..

I'm more jacked than you and I don't juice.... You're doing something wrong...maybe you should pray harder.....

Seeing the world as it really is as opposed to living in delusion isn't negative.....

 

[javaguru]

LOL @ Java throwing a temper tantrum about me

You're easy to provoke which is important for e-entertainment....phaded is more fun to provoke....

 

[GoldenDelicious]

People are saying that now? LOL, pathetic how easily misinformation spreads like a wildfire across the forums.

i know, drives you mad sometimes. ive wanted to change my name on the forums a few times but the only reason i didnt was to leave a bunch of posts around from a consistent username (mine) belonging to a pharmacist and so hopefully leave a few islands of factual data amidst a sea of bullshit

LOL @ Java throwing a temper tantrum about me

Golden, my 3rd cycle on D.N.P. I finally figured out how to diet and nutrition myself correctly when I seen those results. I went from 215 11%bf to 200 9-9.5%%bf in 20 short days and then I lost another 5lbs the first week after I came off (mostly just water retention)

I completely cut carbs from my diet 4 days before I started to deplete my glycogen so the D.N.P. would start working immediatly. I ate low low low fats, mediocre-high carbs from days 5-20

overloaded on these:
Magnesium
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
NAC
Calcium

I took an appetite supressor called phentermine to kick food cravings - which probably was the biggest advantage, gave me amazing energy and made all foods taste like shit

I also took 80mgs T-3 daily since D.N.P. shuts down your natural T-3 production

I was doing lots of light cardio (inclined walking on a tredmill/eliptical) for an hour each day with only a 30-45 min. lift



Extremely impressed by the overall results, but every D.N.P. cycle i've ran, I have never realized the results until a week or so after i've come off..

if you started out at 11% and got down to a minimum of 9% obviously means that you lost 2%bf, which at an initial bodyweight of 215 translates to about a 4-4.5lb fat loss, wich would take you down to 210.5 minimum, so theres still 10lbs of mass unnaccounted for. i suppose dnp will flush your intestines out pretty hard (its a gastric irritant, and so acts like a laxative, really) which will lose you another handful of pounds, and i suppose another bunch of pounds would be intramuscular water/glycogen/dermal water etc....yeah i suppose taht works. how much muscle do youthink you lost? got pics?

(i have pics. i really should match up my pics with my poundages and post them somplace)

ive never combined t3 with dnp (although thats what youd do ideally...im just concerned about my heart tissue) but id say thats what made your cycles so efficacious...what doses were you running, how did you vary them, did you do taht crazy "double your dose on day 3" (insane imo) that people tend to do...do you have anything more to add?

 

[all the whey]

I'm more jacked than you and I don't juice.... You're doing something wrong...maybe you should pray harder.....

Seeing the world as it really is as opposed to living in delusion isn't negative.....

It is not helping.

 

[javaguru]

ya borris is much more jacked than homoguru and doesn't revolve his life around being negative and trying to convince others that God is fake..

I saw his pics at 203......


This is me at 245 and non-juiced or drugged in any way......

Pulling 613.....

 

[GoldenDelicious]

borris is disgustingly ripped and must be shot on sight, i have decided lol

(well done bro. if you do dnp again, do me a fave and take pics. i will shortly )

 

[borris]

i know, drives you mad sometimes. ive wanted to change my name on the forums a few times but the only reason i didnt was to leave a bunch of posts around from a consistent username (mine) belonging to a pharmacist and so hopefully leave a few islands of factual data amidst a sea of bullshit


if you started out at 11% and got down to a minimum of 9% obviously means that you lost 2%bf, which at an initial bodyweight of 215 translates to about a 4-4.5lb fat loss, wich would take you down to 210.5 minimum, so theres still 10lbs of mass unnaccounted for. i suppose dnp - dinitrophenol - will flush your intestines out pretty hard (its a gastric irritant, and so acts like a laxative, really) which will lose you another handful of pounds, and i suppose another bunch of pounds would be intramuscular water/glycogen/dermal water etc....yeah i suppose taht works. how much muscle do youthink you lost? got pics?

(i have pics. i really should match up my pics with my poundages and post them somplace)

ive never combined t3 with dnp - dinitrophenol - (although thats what youd do ideally...im just concerned about my heart tissue) but id say thats what made your cycles so efficacious...what doses were you running, how did you vary them, did you do taht crazy "double your dose on day 3" (insane imo) that people tend to do...do you have anything more to add?

yes, most of my weight loss was mostly water.

The only time I run it is to get rid of stubborn parts of bodyfat that I have and water pockets. Phentermine helped a great bit in sense because I was only consuming 1500 cals at about 7 small meals a day when I was on and had no appetite for sweets/salts whatsoever

I can say i've never felt any loss in muscle/strength during because I was always on some type of andro at the time specifically because I didn't want my muscle going into a catabolic state.

 

[BIGBUCK$]

yes, most of my weight loss was mostly water.

The only time I run it is to get rid of stubborn parts of bodyfat that I have and water pockets. Phentermine helped a great bit in sense because I was only consuming 1500 cals at about 7 small meals a day when I was on and had no appetite for sweets/salts whatsoever

I can say i've never felt any loss in muscle/strength during because I was always on some type of andro at the time specifically because I didn't want my muscle going into a catabolic state.

is phen still produced?

 

[borris]

is phen still produced?

hell yeah, you gotta have a RX though, but if you lurk the net around you can find some stops that'll let you do an over the phone consultation, which is a breeze. Last year I got phen from a site that prescribed them just by a written request form to an online Doc, got the pills 2 days afterwards in the mail. lol

 

[samoth]

is phen still produced?

As I recently found out, yes, surprisingly.

I've always wanted to try the stuff.

 

[borris]

Borris is a typical e-cred...street cred bullshitter..I haven't seen him post a single picture of himself....I'm far from jacked and buffed and I posted pics of myself with my advice....

I saw his pics at 203......

LOL!

 

[BIGBUCK$]

Damn ive honestly been searching around for phen for about 8 months now since i have a huge appetite. i thought they stopped making it or something.

 

[borris]

Damn ive honestly been searching around for phen for about 8 months now since i have a huge appetite. i thought they stopped making it or something.

this can help you with that = http://www.weight-loss-forums.com/

 

[BIGBUCK$]

this can help you with that = http://www.weight-loss-forums.com/

lol thank you brother

 

[all the whey]

I saw his pics at 203......


This is me at 245 and non-juiced or drugged in any way......

Pulling 613.....

That looks like a Captain of a High School Football Team if I ever saw one!

 

[javaguru]

That looks like a Captain of a High School Football Team if I ever saw one!

and I didn't even work out back then.....

 

[BIGBUCK$]

fuck this shit im going to the bar

 

[BIGBUCK$]

no im staying in its cold

 

[borris]

got that purp?

 

[BIGBUCK$]

got that purp?

by the pint

 

[borris]

lol i was talkin bot that tree

 

[Cal_21]

Good luck w. the dnp. Hope you reach your goals and don't get sick in the process.

 

[BIGBUCK$]

lol i was talkin bot that tree

nah bro no purp around just northerns and sours

 

[borris]

you gotta send me up some pro-meth and your white cup recipe, I havn't leaned in months

 

[Wulfgar]

on the flipside, if youre using insulin to shuttle all of the nutrients out of your blood, and simultaneously using dnp - dinitrophenol - to burn everything up, then youre running the risk of not having enough available fuel, which would mean...collapse. organ shutdown. unfun stuff like that

obviously you would want to take measures to prevent a lack of fuel from occuring. as noted you would physically have to RUN OUT of adipose tissue on te human body in order for this to happen.

If I designed a protocol utilizing this Id try to take measures to keep it short and use a ramping approach.

 

[BIGBUCK$]

you gotta send me up some pro-meth and your white cup recipe, I havn't leaned in months

i was leaning so hard the other night i tied my shoe laces with my mouth!!!

 

[borris]

hhahahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[BIGBUCK$]

=)

 

[Phaded]

lol @ fuckface gayguru thinking he's more jacked than me.. go bible thump somewhere else you fucking homo.. i wish you lived in florida so we could meatup and i could beat the living fucking shit out of you..

 

[binö]

somebody link me to a borriss dnp pic

 

[Smurfy]

somebody link me to a borriss dnp - dinitrophenol - pic

......................

 

[binö]

......................

dnp - dinitrophenol - is not just a diet drug, it also has industrial uses

"Commercial DNP is primarily used for scientific research and in manufacturing. It has been used at times to make dyes, other organic chemicals, and wood preservatives. It has also been used to make photographic developer, explosives, and pesticides."

it's also a contaminant

"DNP is considered an important environmental contaminant by the United States Environmental Protection Agency. It has been found in 61 of 1400 priority sites that need clean-up of industrial waste. It can enter the air from automobile exhaust, burning of certain industrial substances, and from reaction of nitrogen in air with other atmospheric chemicals."

wtf ?

 

[Tatyana]

dnp - dinitrophenol - - dinitrophenol - is not just a diet drug, it also has industrial uses

"Commercial DNP is primarily used for scientific research and in manufacturing. It has been used at times to make dyes, other organic chemicals, and wood preservatives. It has also been used to make photographic developer, explosives, and pesticides."

it's also a contaminant

"DNP is considered an important environmental contaminant by the United States Environmental Protection Agency. It has been found in 61 of 1400 priority sites that need clean-up of industrial waste. It can enter the air from automobile exhaust, burning of certain industrial substances, and from reaction of nitrogen in air with other atmospheric chemicals."

wtf ?

DNP is NOT a diet drug, it is an industrial chemical.

I found this post by another molecular endocrinologist I know....................

Don't buy stock in DNP. We are about to put it down on the popularity list.

It fucks very badly indeed, with a whole slew of liver microsomal and mito cytochrome P450s thru PXR and CAR nuclear receptors - the primary steroid and xenobiotic drug metabolism activators. But worse, far worse, it fucks with RXR and FXR, the retinoid and bile acid nuclear receptors. Kiss your immune system and liver biochemistry bye bye.

Not to mention what it does to renal tubules. But hey, liver and kidney regenerates. Doesn't it?

(nope, not under DNP action)

For those not paying adequate attention here: DNP is chauffered out of the body by binding to glutathione. Its sucks it out of liver and it activates drug detox mechanisms that are a sure bet for forming DNA adducts with the ROS activated form of DNP, once glutathione is depleted.

 

[Phaded]

sweet

 

[binö]

dnp - dinitrophenol - is NOT a diet drug, it is an industrial chemical.

I found this post by another molecular endocrinologist I know....................

complicated chemistry/samot stuff.[/SIZE]

i can't even comment on what you posted
but it sounds fuct up

 

[BIGBUCK$]

Damn @ Phen Prices Wowwwwwww

 

[GoldenDelicious]

obviously you would want to take measures to prevent a lack of fuel from occuring. as noted you would physically have to RUN OUT of adipose tissue on te human body in order for this to happen.

If I designed a protocol utilizing this Id try to take measures to keep it short and use a ramping approach.

its a bit more complicated than that tho - an easy way to think of it is nutrient logistics - can you suck enough nutrients out of adipose and sleletal tissue fast enough, and get them where you need them to be?

big risk to take imo..

 

[binö]

its a bit more complicated than that tho - an easy way to think of it is nutrient logistics - can you suck enough nutrients out of adipose and sleletal tissue fast enough, and get them where you need them to be?

big risk to take imo..

why?

 

[Phaded]

so yesterday i'm sitting in a movie theatre start eating some popcorn.. all the sudden i'm sweating as if i'm in 99 degree heat.. my wife sitting next to me is wearing a jacket its so cold in the theatre.. this shit is brutal.. today is my last day..

 

[Wulfgar]

so yesterday i'm sitting in a movie theatre start eating some popcorn.. all the sudden i'm sweating as if i'm in 99 degree heat.. my wife sitting next to me is wearing a jacket its so cold in the theatre.. this shit is brutal.. today is my last day..

post up your final results

 

[Phaded]

how long till i get rid of all the water? i have a rough estimate of where i was weight wise and waist size before i started..

ill post my stats next monday..

 

[Phaded]

think i'm gonna rock some pgcl after my lamaz classes are over in january..

 

[manny78]

Phaded: are into some kind of competitions ? Or is this just some pre-summer-beach/clubbing prep ?

 

[Phaded]

competition fuck no.. lol..

i'm doing this to cut serious bodyfat .. it aint as bad as i thought it'd be.. besides waking up completely soaked few times a night.. if i didn't work out of my house it'd be impossible.. as you sweat if you do anything.. type.. eat carbs.. walk around..

 

[BIGBUCK$]

i think ill probly run dnp in about a year after i get my bf% down a little more and do a ton of research

 

[HollywoodSwole]

competition fuck no.. lol..

i'm doing this to cut serious bodyfat .. it aint as bad as i thought it'd be.. besides waking up completely soaked few times a night.. if i didn't work out of my house it'd be impossible.. as you sweat if you do anything.. type.. eat carbs.. walk around..

no shit. i used to bring two shirts to the gym for just a 45 minute workout when i was on dnp. i know this isnt the juice board, but i never even got above 400mg/day. i can't believe people can tolerate any more than that.

 

[Phaded]

ya i'm on 300 right now gonna contemplate staying on for one more day.. which would be tommorow.. yesterday was horrible today wasn't as brutal..