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DNP + Fina = Holy Jebus

The Almighty

The Almighty

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First of all, obviously DNP is not for everyone, so for the kids who just joined this board and have yet to do a cycle, dont read on.

Anyway, after conversing with the illustrious TxLonghorn a few days back, I decided to add DNP alongside the 112mg/ed of fina I am currently taking.

I started the fina two weeks ago today and the dnp I started at 200mg 5 days ago. I am going to run the fina for 4 more weeks and the dnp at 200mg for 15 more days.

All I can say is good God. If you guys ever want to burn off a shitload of fat in a short amount of time while having your strength increase AND adding a little bit of size, this is definately the combo for you.

In the past 5 days alone I have dropped maybe 1% on the bodyfat scale. Me weight (at 5'8) has remained in the 200-203 area during this time as well. I am taking 1mg of arimidex EOD along with the dnp to combat the water retention it causes.

Now, obviously nothing this good can be free of negative factors. If any of you value your sleep at all, it is probably best to stay away from this combo. Fina and DNP alone have never given me problems sleeping, but I have been waking up every 3 hours soaked in sweat with a severely dry mouth and throat, so it is best to keep a jug of ice water next to the bed at all times. IT doesnt take me more than 5 minutes to get back to sleep, but the principle of awaking every 3 hours and having to down 1/4 gallon of water may be too hard for some. For obvious reasons, it is imperative to remain hydrated at all times if you decide to run this cycle.

Other than that, I have experienced no side effects whatsoever. I highly reccomend it to those who think they can handle the sides.
 
be careful rushing to judge your results.. this combo is a "water dropper"....

and fina can have BRUTAL sides.. particularly sexual ones and HPTA suppression

btw- this is not to say that this is not a good combo-- it is... but these are things to keep in mind.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
be careful rushing to judge your results.. this combo is a "water dropper"....

and fina can have BRUTAL sides.. particularly sexual ones and HPTA suppression

btw- this is not to say that this is not a good combo-- it is... but these are things to keep in mind.
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Oh I definately agree.

I was actually about to touch on one of the sides you mentioned, the sexual side. I am one of the few who experience an increase in sex drive while on fina, and this case is no exception.

HPTA suppression is another one to worry about for obvious reasons which is why I dont like to run fina for longer than 8 weeks at a reasonable dose.

In the end, it is best to take it slow with both of these compounds and see how you, individually, react to them.
 
saint808 said:
200mg is not that bad... are you low carbing at all?
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200mg is a low dose, but combine that with the fact that I am doing it for 20 days and that I am running tren at 112mg/ed, it gets a little heated around here to say the least.

No, I am not low carbing. I am keeping the carbs at about 250g per day, around the same for protein, and less than 70 grams of fat.
 
damn dude your up late

sounds like a great plan but its so hard to locate dnp(not looking for offers)
im gonna get the tren
 
acneman said:
damn dude your up late

sounds like a great plan but its so hard to locate dnp(not looking for offers)
im gonna get the tren
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I know, its about 12:30 here and I just got home. Gotta get my 8 hours.

Speaking of tren, and knowing that you are one of the most knowledgable when it comes to slin, what would you think about running 5iu of slin after workouts along with say 112mg or 150mg/ed of tren for 6 weeks?
 
at your size there is no reason not to run 10 iu as long as you work up to it and follow safety percautions

as far as in combo with tren

just how fast do you think your muscles can grow???

wrong faster than even that on that combo
 
at a guess take your improvement from your last cycle that was almost exactly like that and add about 20% quality muscle gain.

running 10 iu 4 times per week for 4 weeks

gotta edit this

it hasnt been that long since you did that cycle of fina only(if i remeber right) and youve made some serious gains so thats a big factor mabey not 20% at this time or mabey the cycle would be as effective at this time hell thats a lot of factors but let me put it this way i ran almost an identical tes deca cycle with the same post cycle recovery plan and the difference in the second cycle where i added slin was probably 30% or more
 
acneman said:
at your size there is no reason not to run 10 iu as long as you work up to it and follow safety percautions

as far as in combo with tren

just how fast do you think your muscles can grow???

wrong faster than even that on that combo
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Ya, I definately want to take it slow with the insulin. I am already planning my winter cycle, and I do want slin to be a part of it. Oh well, still got time to decide.:p
 
so are u saying that fina will "up the heat" from DNP?? I was considering a little DNP/Fina run, although Ill probably wait until someone shatters all our minds with the ultimate 100 % effective fina gyno cure/avoider(come on you smart guys.) but is that what u mean? cause 200mg dnp powder is almost non noticeable to me, so im wondering if theres any possible funky interactions with fina and dnp that makes u sweat balls more than usual. yeah, i guess thats my question. a little sauced at the moment if i sound like I had a retard ommelette for breakfast with stupid sauce on the side:beer:
 
nhbgorilla said:
so are u saying that fina will "up the heat" from DNP?? I was considering a little DNP/Fina run, although Ill probably wait until someone shatters all our minds with the ultimate 100 % effective fina gyno cure/avoider(come on you smart guys.) but is that what u mean? cause 200mg dnp powder is almost non noticeable to me, so im wondering if theres any possible funky interactions with fina and dnp that makes u sweat balls more than usual. yeah, i guess thats my question. a little sauced at the moment if i sound like I had a retard ommelette for breakfast with stupid sauce on the side:beer:
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Ya, 400mg was a walk in the park for me as far as DNP is concerned. Fina has been known to result in night sweats and perhaps increased heat during the day. IMO if you combine these two compounds then, well, the heat is on so to speak.
 
Japanese machine said:
nice bro, keep us posted, im on day 4 of dnp, so far not much but a lil heat, i guess its time to bump the dosage.
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Thata boy. As I said above, I personally did not notice a drastic increase in heat at 400mg of DNP. I never had night sweats or felt weak at any time during the day. What are you running now, 200?
 
The Almighty said:


Thata boy. As I said above, I personally did not notice a drastic increase in heat at 400mg of DNP. I never had night sweats or felt weak at any time during the day. What are you running now, 200?
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yeah, i just popped my second dose today 500mg (day 4). its so hard to tell if its the dnp thats making me sweat, cause i sweat like a whore regardless, lol.

so did you ever get "hella sweats" or did it stay moderate for you throughout?
 
The Almighty said:


200mg is a low dose, but combine that with the fact that I am doing it for 20 days and that I am running tren at 112mg/ed, it gets a little heated around here to say the least.

No, I am not low carbing. I am keeping the carbs at about 250g per day, around the same for protein, and less than 70 grams of fat.
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250 carbs isn't low carbs? How can you say that? Unless you weigh under 200 lbs. I wouldn't say 250 isn't low carbs. I think that is pretty low although I have gone lower but still I would consider that low.
 
Silverback316 said:
250 carbs isn't low carbs? How can you say that? Unless you weigh under 200 lbs. I wouldn't say 250 isn't low carbs. I think that is pretty low although I have gone lower but still I would consider that low.
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Low carbing is generally considered under 100 grams a day.
 
Well, I just posted asking about how to optimize a Fina cycle for fat loss and it looks like I've found my answer right here. Damn I hate DNP. The shit works like no other, but I just feel like total shit on it... and that was in the WINTER!

Y'all think Fina 75mg eod + DNP 200mg eod would work too, or is that too little?
 
Almighty: When are you thinking of doing the slin then? I was pondering starting it in between cycles in the fall with my primo bridge. If you are gonna do it around the same time that could get furiously interesting. What's your bf at now?
 
Nathan said:
Almighty: When are you thinking of doing the slin then? I was pondering starting it in between cycles in the fall with my primo bridge. If you are gonna do it around the same time that could get furiously interesting. What's your bf at now?
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After a week of this combo my bodyfat has dropped from 13% to about 10%. However, sleeping in a puddle of my own sweat every night has done wonders for my complexion...I look like Im fuckin 15 again.

Anyway, I was planning on doing slin come winter time. Perhaps running 6 weeks of fina at 112-150mg/ed and 5iu of slin post workout. HI and Golfer18 will probably be in on this too. We can make it like a field trip or some shit.
 
The Almighty said:

However, sleeping in a puddle of my own sweat every night has done wonders for my complexion...I look like Im fuckin 15 again.
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this is fina affecting hormone balance and exerting direct effects.. the sweating MAY be a irritating factor (but to a great extent it likely acts to clease the skin).. increase water intake.. it should help
 
macrophage69alpha said:


this is fina affecting hormone balance and exerting direct effects.. the sweating MAY be a irritating factor (but to a great extent it likely acts to clease the skin).. increase water intake.. it should help
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See, I would have thought it was the fina. But every time I have used fina before my complexion has actually gotten better, believe it or not. I already drink a lot of water, but I will try to increase it if possible and see if it helps.
 
The Almighty said:


See, I would have thought it was the fina. But every time I have used fina before my complexion has actually gotten better, believe it or not. I already drink a lot of water, but I will try to increase it if possible and see if it helps.
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I dunno, you've always pretty damn fugly tome no matter what you were on.

As to the "field trip," can we hold hands while this is going on?
 
The Almighty said:


See, I would have thought it was the fina. But every time I have used fina before my complexion has actually gotten better, believe it or not. I already drink a lot of water, but I will try to increase it if possible and see if it helps.
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it may be that the combo(dnp + fina) is what has affected your skin...
though it may be that fina offset other drugs your were taking (stack) (were you taking fina alone?)
 
macrophage69alpha said:


it may be that the combo(dnp + fina) is what has affected your skin...
though it may be that fina offset other drugs your were taking (stack) (were you taking fina alone?)
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I have taken fina with winny and fina with dbol, in both instances I have never had a problem with acne. Perhaps it is because this time I am using a higher dose (112mg/ed).
 
macrophage69alpha said:
be careful rushing to judge your results.. this combo is a "water dropper"....

and fina can have BRUTAL sides.. particularly sexual ones and HPTA suppression

btw- this is not to say that this is not a good combo-- it is... but these are things to keep in mind.
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Weeeeeeny.... LOL :)

Fonz
 
This is SWEET! I was planning on trying DNP with tren and a touch of test to shed some extra fat at the end of my cycle, b/c I lost a bit of muscle on DNP while not using AAS. But you beat me to it Almighty. I didn't have any sides on DNP @ 200mg, mild at 400mg, then getting uncomfortable at 600mg. But I have been hotter than usual on tren. So....

My question is, I was planning on running the DNP at 400mg for 7-12 days with 75-100mg tren. Would 200mg for longer (probably just 2-2.5 weeks) be better with only 75mg of tren? Or would 400mg plus the tren be too tough on me?
 
lol, when I first read this I thought you were doing 200mg of fina. I was like, damn!

I'm wondering if taking GHB when on DNP would help get a good night sleep, although waking up to drink water in the middle of the night is a good thing IMO.
 
The Almighty said:
First of all, obviously DNP is not for everyone, so for the kids who just joined this board and have yet to do a cycle, dont read on.

Anyway, after conversing with the illustrious TxLonghorn a few days back, I decided to add DNP alongside the 112mg/ed of fina I am currently taking.

I started the fina two weeks ago today and the dnp I started at 200mg 5 days ago. I am going to run the fina for 4 more weeks and the dnp at 200mg for 15 more days.

All I can say is good God. If you guys ever want to burn off a shitload of fat in a short amount of time while having your strength increase AND adding a little bit of size, this is definately the combo for you.

In the past 5 days alone I have dropped maybe 1% on the bodyfat scale. Me weight (at 5'8) has remained in the 200-203 area during this time as well. I am taking 1mg of arimidex EOD along with the dnp to combat the water retention it causes.

Now, obviously nothing this good can be free of negative factors. If any of you value your sleep at all, it is probably best to stay away from this combo. Fina and DNP alone have never given me problems sleeping, but I have been waking up every 3 hours soaked in sweat with a severely dry mouth and throat, so it is best to keep a jug of ice water next to the bed at all times. IT doesnt take me more than 5 minutes to get back to sleep, but the principle of awaking every 3 hours and having to down 1/4 gallon of water may be too hard for some. For obvious reasons, it is imperative to remain hydrated at all times if you decide to run this cycle.

Other than that, I have experienced no side effects whatsoever. I highly reccomend it to those who think they can handle the sides.
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Ok, to add to macrophage's ominous warning: you dont need arimidex. you are just wasting your $ imo. Fina will shut down your test, so aromatase wont have ay substrate to work on, and fina itself doesnt aromatize! ... save yourself some money, and any unknown sides anastrazole may have we dont know about . you dont need it, but good results man! How much time do yo uwait between cycles ... you seem to push the envelope in the time on = time off dept ...

NFG
 
Dr.RobertBanner said:
This is SWEET! I was planning on trying DNP with tren and a touch of test to shed some extra fat at the end of my cycle, b/c I lost a bit of muscle on DNP while not using AAS. But you beat me to it Almighty. I didn't have any sides on DNP @ 200mg, mild at 400mg, then getting uncomfortable at 600mg. But I have been hotter than usual on tren. So....

My question is, I was planning on running the DNP at 400mg for 7-12 days with 75-100mg tren. Would 200mg for longer (probably just 2-2.5 weeks) be better with only 75mg of tren? Or would 400mg plus the tren be too tough on me?
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I am Almighty, hence the reason why I thought of this before you did. Loser. :licker:

If I were you, I would stick with dnp at 200mg. As I said, I never had a problem with dnp by itself at 400mg. I HAD to stop after 7 days of 200mg combined with fina. I wasnt sleeping well at all and felt like shit all day long. Stick with 200 and see how far you can get.
 
The Nature Boy said:
lol, when I first read this I thought you were doing 200mg of fina. I was like, damn!

I'm wondering if taking GHB when on DNP would help get a good night sleep, although waking up to drink water in the middle of the night is a good thing IMO.
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Call me cautious, but I wouldnt take any rec drugs while on DNP...but thats just me. I am not sure of anyone who combines GHB with DNP with no sides, interesting idea though. I wonder if anyone else can let us in on this?
 
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NFG123 said:


Ok, to add to macrophage's ominous warning: you dont need arimidex. you are just wasting your $ imo. Fina will shut down your test, so aromatase wont have ay substrate to work on, and fina itself doesnt aromatize! ... save yourself some money, and any unknown sides anastrazole may have we dont know about . you dont need it, but good results man! How much time do yo uwait between cycles ... you seem to push the envelope in the time on = time off dept ...

NFG
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The only reason I was using arimidex was to keep the water retention from DNP to a minimum so that I could better observe my results.

I usually do "push the envelope" as far as time on = time off goes...but for the most part I wait a few months inbetween each one.
 
Thanks Almighty. I'll start DNP this weekend some time, along with my current 150mg fina per day. Though I may up that to 250 for that week, plus my 50mg prop per, and 40 mg anavar. I think I'll have a large pizza.
 
spentagn said:
Thanks Almighty. I'll start DNP this weekend some time, along with my current 150mg fina per day. Though I may up that to 250 for that week, plus my 50mg prop per, and 40 mg anavar. I think I'll have a large pizza.
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Jesus man, you are going to be sweating like there is no tommorow. How long you planning on running the DNP?
 
Well, I'll prolly start on Sunday. Next Saturday is my 21st, so I'll want to have lost some of the water weight, so I'll run it through Wednesday. Only have crystal though, so I'll have to see how much I want to take...
 
The Nature Boy said:
ah, I love the crystal. Never done powder, but the crystal hits hard!!! whew. I'm getting sweaty thinking about it.
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My posts often have that effect on you, unfortunately.
 
yeah it's when *mumbles incoherently* and then *mumbles again* and then you add more weight to the nautilus machine and that's it.
 
The Almighty said:


Call me cautious, but I wouldnt take any rec drugs while on DNP...but thats just me. I am not sure of anyone who combines GHB with DNP with no sides, interesting idea though. I wonder if anyone else can let us in on this?
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I have considered DNP with some GHB or GBL in the evening to be a decent possibility. As far as I can tell, there would be no reason for the ghb and dnp to work against eachother. I must also point out that I am talking about small dosages...simply enough to make you a bit tired, feel good, and induce a little better sleep. I am not talking about taking a dosage that will make you pass the hell out for 4 hours. Obviously this would be undesirable as your bodies natural "alert system" wouldn't be functioning properly. In other words, take for example how many people have reported waking up in the middle of the night needing water... this is your body telling you it is thirsty and it needs something... if you were just passed out cold from GHB, this might not be good. Granted, the rush of dopamine about 4 hours after ingestion would probably wake you up anyway, but I'm sure you get the idea. In small/average dosages, I don't see why this wouldn't be an effective way to feel good and have a little better sleep. If anyone can provide evidence against this, feel free...I'd like to hear it... thanks
 
Last night was the first bad night I had trying to sleep . I have been on crystal dnp for 12 days , the first 5 days was 200 mg at night then I bumpe dit up to 400 mg . I started a test and fina cycle this week . Last night was hell . I didn't think it was cause of the fina , just thought maybe it was time to come off the dnp . Maybe I'll back it down to 200 mg . I was taking the dnp every 12 hours at 200 mg . It has been very tollerable until last night .
 
UsnicAcid said:


I have considered DNP with some GHB or GBL in the evening to be a decent possibility. As far as I can tell, there would be no reason for the ghb and dnp to work against eachother. I must also point out that I am talking about small dosages...simply enough to make you a bit tired, feel good, and induce a little better sleep. I am not talking about taking a dosage that will make you pass the hell out for 4 hours. Obviously this would be undesirable as your bodies natural "alert system" wouldn't be functioning properly. In other words, take for example how many people have reported waking up in the middle of the night needing water... this is your body telling you it is thirsty and it needs something... if you were just passed out cold from GHB, this might not be good. Granted, the rush of dopamine about 4 hours after ingestion would probably wake you up anyway, but I'm sure you get the idea. In small/average dosages, I don't see why this wouldn't be an effective way to feel good and have a little better sleep. If anyone can provide evidence against this, feel free...I'd like to hear it... thanks
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Totally understandable. I was just saying that personally I would stay away from any other drugs...except gear of course. :p
 
GHB is only a rec drug when it is used for that purpose, otherwise it can have a profound effect on sleeping patterns and GH secretion. DNP and Fina sounds like an awesome combo, but I would def add some test to help with libido, because the progesterone will catch up with you eventually. Arimidex is unnecessary as was stated, unless u plan on adding test. Also, if you do add Slin down the road, make sure that you are not using DNP, and also make sure you are using some kind of anabolic compound along with some t3. A slin only bridge will do nothing but get you fat. Good Luck tool.
 
Nimrod25 said:
GHB is only a rec drug when it is used for that purpose, otherwise it can have a profound effect on sleeping patterns and GH secretion. DNP and Fina sounds like an awesome combo, but I would def add some test to help with libido, because the progesterone will catch up with you eventually. Arimidex is unnecessary as was stated, unless u plan on adding test. Also, if you do add Slin down the road, make sure that you are not using DNP, and also make sure you are using some kind of anabolic compound along with some t3. A slin only bridge will do nothing but get you fat. Good Luck tool.
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Idunno if I really appeciate the "tool" remark you immature shithead.

I figured I would have at least 1 person telling me to add test. Normally I would agree with you, but my sex drive increases on fina. I have been on it for the past 5 weeks and, like my other fina cycles, have been hornier than ever. I guess I am one of the lucky few.

I plan on using slin this winter, not as a bridge but with some fina (duh) and either some dbol or zambons. I obviously still have a while to decide.
 
DNP @ 200-400mg a day, T3, ECA, light cardio three times a week and Fina at 37.5 mg a day = 15 pounds in just a little over two weeks for me. :D
 
Mythos said:
DNP @ 200-400mg a day, T3, ECA, light cardio three times a week and Fina at 37.5 mg a day = 15 pounds in just a little over two weeks for me. :D
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Where do you live bro? Antarctica? How the hell r u doing this in August???
 
Mythos said:
DNP @ 200-400mg a day, T3, ECA, light cardio three times a week and Fina at 37.5 mg a day = 15 pounds in just a little over two weeks for me. :D
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wow! good work dude, on such a little amount while cutting. I'm impressed, although some of it could be water retention from the DNP but on the other hand the ECA acts as a duretic. Either way, good job.
 
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