Diets Are Bullshit

[Nelson Montana]

At the risk of going back and forth (which is inevitable on these forums) I'll try to address your points PwB.

Chris Shugart? Talk about a guy with no credentials! But I have nothing against him. He is a TC "yes man" though, no doubt about it.

Charles Poliquin: TC bashed him in his editorial (can't remember the date) but didn't have the balls to say who he was talking about. He realized putting him down hurt more than it helped so he softened his stance. He still fired him.

Ian King. Nice guy. Knows his stuff. But "getting hold of him" wasn't too tough. He was a friend of Charles who needed work. No one knew who he was until I did an interview to promote him.

Don Alessi. A guy with great genetics who looks the part, hence, he got the gig.

Lyle admits to using DNP to lose fat. Hey, he's a smart guy who's entitled to his opinion, but he's way off on this one. It's not unlike Mike Mentzer. If one set a week works so great why didn't he do it? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T!

That statement about the brain only needing 100 grams of glucose is not accurate. (Maybe for survival, not optimum function) Diets that are severely restricted in carbohydrates have been shown to cause hypothyroidism -- which means down the line, you'll REALLY have a hard time keeping fat off.

Healthy athletes are not epileptic chickens.
You're absolutely right that once a balanced, high protein diet is met, it's all about calories.

Of course I'm trying to promote my book. But if any of this makes any sense, you'll probably enjoy it. It'll certainly save people a lot of time and money. It not only covers diet but training, supps, drugs and methods of the old time pre-roid bodybuilders. Check it out.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Chickens? I meant epileptic children

 

[MohawkMuscle]

Well I for one really enjoy reading Nelsons Articles. I always like the basic truth in terms of BB.
This is why I also loved Vince Gironda articles.

I find there is so much hype in BB that noone really know what to do. Too much nitro tech/ celltech crap and f00-foo exercises to bring out the inner peak in the bicept.

I think Nelson is the man that will make BB simple again.



PS. I emailed you a few days ago and the email was returned. Is it still at webtv?

 

[MohawkMuscle]

Registered: Aug 2002

Posts: 452



PS
How can he post the above messages but I cantfind anyone of them?

 

[Kid Dynamite]

I agree with some points. Some people over complicate their diet and training so much they just sity there, spinning their wheels and making no progress. I've done that before, dropped the overly complicated shit and got alot better results.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Mohawk,
I still use WebTV for e-mail. The address is [email protected] I read all letters and try to answer all serious questions but usually can't provide an extensive dialogue due to the quantity of mail I receive.

 

[MS]

"And the truth will set you free......."

Seems to me PwB basically agrees with Nelson (and me) that adequate protein and minimal EFAs are all that really matters in the long run in terms of diet (excluding drugs). All the nit-picking that goes on concerning macronutritents, timing of nutrients, the superiority of one diet over another etc....is ultimately just a waste of mental energy once you accept that adding muscle=excess calories and losing fat=reduced calories. All that matters is your ability to pick a diet and stick to it. I think it's the "sticking to it" side of things where people will differ, though that's largely psychological/willpower.

And Lyle McD (or Dan Duchainne) is a perfect example of this. He will always have an ugly physique no matter how good his diet is. Accepting this and either moving on or getting major plastic surgery and hitting the drugs big time are his only options to improve his lot. For people like him (which is actually quite a lot of people) it is less painful in the long run t recognize these limitations and chose a career other than bodybuilding or GQ modelling.

Other than that, Lyle (and everyone else) can aim to be the HEALTHIEST ugly physique that their genes will allow them to be, by cutting most of the crap from their diets and doing some regular weight bearing exercise. I'm guessing that's what Nelson's book (in part) will outline how to do? I don't know and don't really care since I have no plans to buy his book.

Attacking people's credentials in a world where credentials can be bought and traded (think of your average personal trainer) is silly, especially on the web. I know plenty of folks with biochemistry degrees that have never picked up a weight and are totally clueless about how to eat properly or lose weight. The majority of dieticians I've known have less than enviable physiques and are hardly good billboards for their credentials. And medical doctors may be the most clueless of all professionals when it comes to healthy lifestyles......

Obviously if you're pudgy or obese and get yourself on a successful submaintenance calorie diet plus exercise program, your gonna look and feel a whole lot better. I don't think anyone is saying that what and how much you eat DOESN'T matter. But food is not going to change your basic structure, framework, personality (including willpower and motivation), height, width of bones that you hang your muscles on, attachment points, torso or leg length, bodyfat distribution, etc....You're not going to look like Ronnie Coleman even if you ate exactly what he ate, took the same drugs and did the same workouts.

 

[Spartacus]

bump this antique

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Ahhhh... Nelson we found something we don't agree on. I'm not going to rehash other's statements about diets, but my major is nutrional science, and I very much believe one's diet plays a huge impact on both body composition and health. Still, as I've said before, I don't agree with everything you say, but you still raise some interesting points, and from time to time I've had to step back and rethink a few things based on something you've written. Of course, I've read articles you've written on diets, and find them to be less logical and much of it does not match current research when compaired to your writings on training and drug use. I do have one question concerning your logic. How does attacking Lyle prove or disprove the advantage of low carb diets? Its not like he actually came up with the idea or is even a bodybuilder. I find keto diets to be quite effective for me, and I've never read anything the man has written.