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Deadlift training from Andy Bolton's gym.

u418936 said:
That's a great video.

It seems like most really strong guys who can deadlift 600+ lbs start the lift with a rounded upper back. Can anyone explain why?


Not sure why, but every big conventional puller pretty much starts that way.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
I know I do.
It makes it easier to reach the bar. Test it yourself. Bend over with a straight or arched back, then move your shoulders down and forward and see how many inches further you can reach with a rounded upper back.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
I know I do.
It makes it easier to reach the bar. Test it yourself. Bend over with a straight or arched back, then move your shoulders down and forward and see how many inches further you can reach with a rounded upper back.


I have long arms and am super flexible so I normally don't have any probs reaching the bar. But I agree that you're on to something with why most do it.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
I'm not in the 600 club quite yet, but as the weights got heavier I switched to rounded back. A lot of it came from greatly increased strength in core and to some extent posterior chain. It was something I no longer had to think about so I started rounding my back as it seemed more natural.

I don't think of it so much in terms as being able to reach the bar as in controlling the bar on the way up. It takes more and more force to be able to get the bar off the ground and a rounded back puts me in a better position to transfer that into a successful pull.

Now that I think of it, it's probably close to what you're saying anyway. But this is how I think it through and why I switched.
 
fortunatesun said:
I'm not in the 600 club quite yet, but as the weights got heavier I switched to rounded back. A lot of it came from greatly increased strength in core and to some extent posterior chain. It was something I no longer had to think about so I started rounding my back as it seemed more natural.

I don't think of it so much in terms as being able to reach the bar as in controlling the bar on the way up. It takes more and more force to be able to get the bar off the ground and a rounded back puts me in a better position to transfer that into a successful pull.

Now that I think of it, it's probably close to what you're saying anyway. But this is how I think it through and why I switched.


I'm a big advocate of if it works for you then go with it. I have a slight round when I DL but not too much.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
u418936 said:
That's a great video.

It seems like most really strong guys who can deadlift 600+ lbs start the lift with a rounded upper back. Can anyone explain why?


They dont intend on starting the lift w/ a rounded back, but it eventually becomes physics. when what your holding weighs 2-3x more than you it becomes harder to hold a straight back. But when your getting to the 600 lb mark, trust me you didnt get there overnight. by the time your there your back is strong enough that it does not injure you, it becomes natural. And I'm sorry, but the vid didn't impress me a whole lot, half the guys were starting at their knees, and the one who actually managed to pull 600 weighed about 280-300 lbs. They'd feel pretty dumb if one of us walked up to the bar all calm and cool, and banged out 500/12. And we wouldn't need to scream and wear goofy looking shit either,hahahhaha.
 
abolish the weak said:
They dont intend on starting the lift w/ a rounded back, but it eventually becomes physics. when what your holding weighs 2-3x more than you it becomes harder to hold a straight back. But when your getting to the 600 lb mark, trust me you didnt get there overnight. by the time your there your back is strong enough that it does not injure you, it becomes natural. And I'm sorry, but the vid didn't impress me a whole lot, half the guys were starting at their knees, and the one who actually managed to pull 600 weighed about 280-300 lbs. They'd feel pretty dumb if one of us walked up to the bar all calm and cool, and banged out 500/12. And we wouldn't need to scream and wear goofy looking shit either,hahahhaha.


So doing 600+x2 isn't impressive?

Personally I'm not going to argue with Andy's training regiment. Unless of course you've done a legitimate 1,000lb deadlift then by all means do it your way.

And they're english you can't hold fashion against them too much.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Scotsman said:
So doing 600+x2 isn't impressive?

Personally I'm not going to argue with Andy's training regiment. Unless of course you've done a legitimate 1,000lb deadlift then by all means do it your way.

And they're english you can't hold fashion against them too much.

Cheers,
Scotsman



For someone of that bodyweight, no. I'm not arguing with the training regimen though. Yeah, and your right. I'll forgive the fashion
 
abolish the weak said:
For someone of that bodyweight, no. I'm not arguing with the training regimen though. Yeah, and your right. I'll forgive the fashion


Well considering 99%+ of the population can't do it for one...

Plus who know what all else they did that day.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
I thought they seemed like a fun bunch.
I'd love to join them for a training session.


Shit yeah that would be great. Andy had an open call for a training partner a while back. He wanted people who were serious, dedicated, and ready to train like monsters. If I lived in the UK I would have gone.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
They do intend to start with a rounded upper back. As somebody said, it is about shortening the distance that you have to pull the weight.

Pulling from knee height is standard practice for Andy and something he highly recommends. Typically pulls from mid or low shin. Deep squats take care of the bottom of the competition deadlift.

Lastly, there were a good number of those lifts being done for speed not weight. That is standard practice in powerlifting.

They dont intend on starting the lift w/ a rounded back, but it eventually becomes physics. when what your holding weighs 2-3x more than you it becomes harder to hold a straight back. But when your getting to the 600 lb mark, trust me you didnt get there overnight. by the time your there your back is strong enough that it does not injure you, it becomes natural. And I'm sorry, but the vid didn't impress me a whole lot, half the guys were starting at their knees, and the one who actually managed to pull 600 weighed about 280-300 lbs. They'd feel pretty dumb if one of us walked up to the bar all calm and cool, and banged out 500/12. And we wouldn't need to scream and wear goofy looking shit either,hahahhaha.
 
i watched the vid

bolton wasn pullin that day

and he does pull over a grand

cant argue thats not impressive, since that is the best in the world

btw he got 1008 now if u guys didnt know
 
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