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Written by Skyefire and originally posted on SM
Types of Cycles
There are (kind of) two schools of thought on what a
first cycle should be composed of, testosterone only or a "bread and
butter cycle", a cycle consisting of 2 or more injectable (one of witch
is testosterone) with maybe an oral steroid to “jump start the cycle).
Both have their good points and bad ones. A third option is a cycle based
on another steroid, while not popular does work and is a viable option.
Keep in mind that no cycle of any kind is going to work for you if your
training and diet are not dialed in. Steroid can do wonders but they
are not magic.
1. Testosterone only cycles. This is by and large the most popular first
cycle (at least the most recommended). Testosterone is considered the
king of steroids and with reason. One is that it is a fairly safe steroid,
right in the middle spectrum so to speak. It is in fact the gauge by
witch all other steroids strengths are measured from. It reasonable on
sides (some but not too bad) effects, cost effective (good bang for the
buck), and easily obtainable. Also noted is that it is one of the few
steroids that you can simply keep increasing the dosage without running
into major problems with. In this it is different from other steroid
as it does not require adding a additional hormone to the stack to increases
the gains. Rather you can just raise the dosage. 1 to 2 grams a week
can be ran with less sides then some lower stack would give at half that.
(I still think that it is insane to do it, just my 2 cents) Outside of
boldenolone undecylenate I don’t know of any other steroid that you can
do that with (with any degree of safety that is)
Here are some of the pros of running a test only cycle:
a. Nice gains but not too fast. This might not seam like a benefit at
first until you consider the safety factor. Simple put your muscles can
easily out grow your tendons and ligaments making you prone to injury.
A lot of people regretted not running a higher dosage but slow and steady
have been proven to win the race.
b. By using or adding on one component at a time you can gain a much
better idea of how your body responds to gear/types of gear. In other
word you get valuable experience that will help you plan you next cycle
even better (Don’t even bother telling me that you only want to run one
cycle. I haven’t met anyone yet that ran one cycle only).
c. Test is high for the bang for the buck. It is cheap and easy to get
compared to other things. If you’re going to run just one steroid for
your cycle this is the one to do it with.
d. 95% of everyone will respond well to test only. Everyone will respond
to it if give a high enough dosage. But for just about everyone 400 to
750mg a week of testosterone will work just fine.
Some of the cons of running Testosterone only cycle:
a. Limited gains if you keep the dosage reasonable. Most steroids have
a strong stringency with other types of steroids. So in effect your losing
out on gains that would bring little or no sides with them. And almost
everything stacks well with testosterone so it hard to justify not getting
the best bang for your buck.
b. Test only is bad for the tendons and ligaments. Here is a quote from
a article by AnimalMass on competitivemuscle.com (thanks Puddles for
giving this to me)
quote:
While injecting test increases protein syntesis by roughly 50 times,
depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce
collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the
collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up
tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very
heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back
to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the
tendons of a very old man.
Found this out the hard way. I have done some further research and while
no one agrees on how much or how bad they do agree that it happens.
c. Very little control on effects, i.e. with the bread and butter cycles
you can modify the effects with the type of gear you stack with the testosterone.
This one is a little iffy as you can run ancillary drugs and modify your
diet to achieve most anything. See a good example go read canadagold’s
post here: http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbull...&threadid=16753
There are 5 Testosterone esters that are commonly used. For the best
article I have read about the difference between esters and the reason
why go here: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articl...oid-esters.htm. <http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articl...ology/anabolic-
steroid-esters.htm.> Here is another (simpler) article regarding Testosterone
and its esters here :
Below is a brief description of each of the common esters of Testosterone.
While all esters should be same in theory that is not the case as the
esters do seam to affect some of the properties of the Testosterone despite
what the above article say. Then main differences being the amount of
water it causes you to hold and the intrinsic strength (long ester spread
the disruption out so shorter ester can act like they’re stronger) Be
aware that there are a lot more esters available it’s just that they
just aren’t common.
Testosterone Base has no ester and is commonly found as a waterborne
suspension. It is primarily used ware drug testing is problem or as the
oil based results of a conversion from cattle pellets. (See http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...hread.php?t=127
for info
on cattle pellets). Requires ED injections even as an oil based solution.
Testosterone Propionate is a short estered Testosterone that has a half-
life of about 4.5 days. This makes the need for frequent injections,
preferable every other day, every third day at least. Low water retention
make it a favorite for cutting cycles. Also it is excellent for jump
starting a cycle due to it short “kick in” time.
Testosterone Enanthate is a medium long ester with a half-life of 10.5
days. Has been said to cause more water retention then the Cypionate
ester but that is hard to explain or verify. The Enanthate ester is said
to be the more natural ester and less likely to cause a reaction. By
and large Testosterone Enanthate and Cypionate are close enough to be
interchangeable.
Testosterone Cypionate is a medium long ester with a half-life of 12
days. It is probably (not so much any more, but in old school) the most
popular ester of Testosterone. Was widely held to produce better gain
the Enanthate ester although this is not likely the case. It is said
to cause less water retention then the Enanthate but again this is hard
to explain or verify.
Testosterone Decanoate is a long estered Testosterone with a half-life
of 15 days. It is not as common as the above esters but is still found
fairly often as neo-test or as a component of sustanon. Sense this ester
of Testosterone take almost 6 weeks to fully “kick in” It is recommended
that the cycle length be at least 12 week or better.
Sustanon is not a ester of Testosterone but a blend of them, 12% being
Testosterone Propionate, 24% Testosterone Phenylpropionate, 24% Testosterone
Isocaproate, and 40% Testosterone Decanoate. This is not my favorite
concoction. In theory Sustanon 250 should be a twice a week shot. Having
said that I would say at least 3x a week (Mon, Wed, Fri). The Phenyl
Propionate is the problem here, it is suppose to have a longer half life
of around 6 to 7 days, putting it in the middle of the Test Isocaproate
(9 to 9.5 days) and the Test Propionate (4 to 5 days). The problem with
this is that if we look at the actual clinical half life of Nandrolone
Phenyl Propionate its not even close to that, if I recall correctly it
was almost the same as propionate. I have no reason to think that the
Test Phenyl Propionate will be any different. While this doesn’t actually
change much (the average half life is still going to be around 5.5 to
6 days instead of 6 to 7 days) it does kill the twice a week schedule
IMO as well as getting rid of the notion of “smooth blending of esters”
This is one reason I am not over fond of Sustanon, that and mixing in
an ester that 4 times as long as half of your mixture. Just my two cents.
Also refer back to
Basic Testosterone only cycle:
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 10 weeks
10mg of nolvadex ED for weeks 1 to 11
Start PCT (Post cycle therapy) week 12 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate
(Nolvadex) for 2 weeks then run 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.
Testosterone only cycle with a “kick start”
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 10 weeks
150mg of Testosterone Propionate EOD for the first week.
100mg of Testosterone Propionate EOD for the second week
100mg of Testosterone Propionate E3rd day.
10mg of nolvadex ED for weeks 1 to 11
Start PCT (Post cycle therapy) week 12 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate
(Nolvadex) for 2 weeks then run 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.
Front loaded Testosterone Cypionate only cycle.
Ether 1.5 grams the first week (not recommend, good way to get the test
flu) divided into 6shots with 500mg a week weeks 2 to 10
Or 750mg a week weeks 1 to 3 then 500mg a week weeks 4 to 10
Or 1gram the first week, 750mg the second week, then 500mg a week weeks
3 to 10.
Start PCT (Post cycle therapy) week 12 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate
(Nolvadex) for 2 weeks then run 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.
That PCT cycle is good for almost anything. For more information on PCT
and HCG go read : http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...hread.php?t=371
2. Bread and butter cycles are cycles consisting of 2 or more injectable
(one of witch is testosterone) with maybe an oral steroid to “jump start
the cycle). The term itself refers to the cycle being a basic (but effective)
cycle that usually tried and true. Most of these are from the old school
(referring to the times past when we did not have the PCT options or
knowledge that we do now). We now know that it is unnecessary and counter
productive to ramp up and down on dosages, use long esters to keep gains,
or to stack thing steroids according to the receptor type. Nonetheless
these still highly effective cycles that have been proven over time.
These cycles almost always combine a long estered Testosterone with another
long estered steroid, most notably Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) and Boldenolone
Undecylenate (Equipoise or EQ) with the option of running Methandrostenolone
(Dianabol or Dbol) for the fist part while waiting for the longer esters
to gradually build up. Testosterone Propionate or base can also be used
for this purpose. See here for information about the build up of esters
http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...hread.php?t=125
Bread and butter pros
a. Good gains, usually better then test alone mg per mg (depends on the
kind of steroid being ran). I am referring to running steroids that have
a good stringency with each other. See below for more info.
b. Almost always includes Deca or EQ; ether of is good for the tendons
and ligaments. This helps offset the testosterones tendency to reduce
collagen production. Here is another quote from the same article (http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...15711#post15711
)
quote:
Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase
procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary
indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see,
deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase
in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone
mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood
and
quote:
Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340%
- -- slightly better than deca.
c. Lot of flexibility on effects, i.e. by controlling what you run with
the test you can affect the types of gains you make (to a point that
is.) Again diet (especially) and ancillary drugs will make a huge difference.
d. You can also benefit from the other sides of different types of gear,
for instance EQ helps promote hunger and raises your red blood cell
count. Nandrolone Decanoate is known to hold fluid in the joints giving
a lubrication effect. As you can see there are several benefits to running
these steroids with test.
Cons:
See benefit of test only. Minus all of that and it cost a lot more.
Some of the common steroid used in a bread and butter. For a detailed
profile of the steroids below and all others go see : http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...display.php?f=5
http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbull...p?s=&forumid=26
and .
Testosterone of a medium or long ester as listed above as a base of the
cycle.
Boldenolone Undecylenate (EQ, Equipoise) helps promote hunger and raises
your red blood cell count. Tends to promote lean gains and/or to help
harden up. Has low water retention. Takes up to 6 weeks to kick in so
it is better suited for a longer (12 weeks or better) cycle. This is
a very mild/weak steroid that is often ran under dosed. Dosage should
start about 400mg a week (this is my opinion only here) and can be ran
up to 800 (people have ran it higher then that and told me later that
they though it was just a waste of gear) mg a week if you’re using it
as the base of your cycle. Both Nandrolone Decanoate and Boldenolone
Undecylenate are believed to help increase tendon and ligament strengths.
Please note that they still will not keep up with the muscle, there is
just less of a discrepancy there.
Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) is a fairly powerful steroid in its own right,
much more so then EQ. High water retention. Starting dosages 200 are
enough to gain the joint lubrication benefits of this hormone. For mass
(that is what Nandrolone Decanoate is really good for) dosages start
at around 300mg up to around 600mg a week (this is debatable here) It,
like the EQ, takes about 6 weeks to fully kick in. Both Nandrolone Decanoate
and Boldenolone Undecylenate are believed to help increase tendon and
ligament strengths. Please note that they still will not keep up with
the muscle, there is just less of a discrepancy there.
Stanozolol (Winny, Winstrol, Stromba) is a popular oral that I wonder
why anyone would take. It is popular because it is a very “dry” steroid
that helps provide that harden chiseled look. It also dries out your
joints (can we say arthritis like symptoms?) and tends to weaken your
tendons. Again see : http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...15711#post15711
for more
information. As like all 17-alpha alkylated (methylated, 17-alpha-methyl,
17-methyl group) steroids it is liver toxic and should not be ran over
6 weeks.
Methandrostenolone (Dianabol, Dbol, Anabol) is one of the more powerful
orals available. Unfortunately it has a lot of estrogen-mediated side-
effects as well has hold a lot of water (bloat). However a little goes
a long way with a starting does at around 25mg ed (divide to twice a
day is recommended) will deliver good gains while bring only moderate
side effects. 50mg seams to be about as high of a dose as most people
will use. If you’re looking to jump-start a cycle this is a good choice.
Surprisingly Methandrostenolone is also an excellent cutting drug when
ran with an aromatase inhibitor as it has a very strong anti carbolic
action, nearly that of trenbolone. As like all 17-alpha alkylated (methylated,
17-alpha-methyl, 17-methyl group) steroids it is liver toxic and should
not be ran over 6 weeks.
Oxymetholone (drol, A-bomb) is not a drug of choice for a first cycle.
Very bad on the side and very liver toxic the effects are compounded
by the high dosage necessary to see good results, anywhere from 75 to
200mg ED. To add injury to insult it makes many (me among them) fill
sick, kills your appetite, and make you lethargic. Some people do love
the stuff but there are safer and better options out there.
Some standard “Bread and Butter Cycles”:
Bulker:
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 14 weeks
400mg of Nandrolone Decanoate (one or two shots a week) a week for 13
weeks.
250iu HCG twice a week for weeks 1 to 4, then 3 times a week for weeks
5 to 15
10mg Tamoxifen Citrate every day weeks 1 to 15. That is 2 5,000iu amps
Start PCT week 16 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate every day for two weeks
then 20mg every day for another 2 week.
Big bulker:
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 14 weeks
400mg of Nandrolone Decanoate (one or two shots a week) a week for 13
weeks.
15 to 25mg of Methandrostenolone 2 twice a day for weeks 1 to 6.
250iu HCG twice a week for weeks 1 to 4, then 3 times a week for weeks
5 to 15
10mg Tamoxifen Citrate every day weeks 1 to 15. That is 2 5,000iu amps
Start PCT week 16 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate every day for two weeks
then 20mg every day for another 2 week.
Leaner gains cycle:
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 14 weeks
500mg Boldenolone Undecylenate (one or two shots a week) a week for 13
weeks.
250iu HCG twice a week for weeks 5 to 15.
Start PCT week 16 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate every day for two weeks
then 20mg every day for another 2 week.
Written by Skyefire and originally posted on SM
Types of Cycles
There are (kind of) two schools of thought on what a
first cycle should be composed of, testosterone only or a "bread and
butter cycle", a cycle consisting of 2 or more injectable (one of witch
is testosterone) with maybe an oral steroid to “jump start the cycle).
Both have their good points and bad ones. A third option is a cycle based
on another steroid, while not popular does work and is a viable option.
Keep in mind that no cycle of any kind is going to work for you if your
training and diet are not dialed in. Steroid can do wonders but they
are not magic.
1. Testosterone only cycles. This is by and large the most popular first
cycle (at least the most recommended). Testosterone is considered the
king of steroids and with reason. One is that it is a fairly safe steroid,
right in the middle spectrum so to speak. It is in fact the gauge by
witch all other steroids strengths are measured from. It reasonable on
sides (some but not too bad) effects, cost effective (good bang for the
buck), and easily obtainable. Also noted is that it is one of the few
steroids that you can simply keep increasing the dosage without running
into major problems with. In this it is different from other steroid
as it does not require adding a additional hormone to the stack to increases
the gains. Rather you can just raise the dosage. 1 to 2 grams a week
can be ran with less sides then some lower stack would give at half that.
(I still think that it is insane to do it, just my 2 cents) Outside of
boldenolone undecylenate I don’t know of any other steroid that you can
do that with (with any degree of safety that is)
Here are some of the pros of running a test only cycle:
a. Nice gains but not too fast. This might not seam like a benefit at
first until you consider the safety factor. Simple put your muscles can
easily out grow your tendons and ligaments making you prone to injury.
A lot of people regretted not running a higher dosage but slow and steady
have been proven to win the race.
b. By using or adding on one component at a time you can gain a much
better idea of how your body responds to gear/types of gear. In other
word you get valuable experience that will help you plan you next cycle
even better (Don’t even bother telling me that you only want to run one
cycle. I haven’t met anyone yet that ran one cycle only).
c. Test is high for the bang for the buck. It is cheap and easy to get
compared to other things. If you’re going to run just one steroid for
your cycle this is the one to do it with.
d. 95% of everyone will respond well to test only. Everyone will respond
to it if give a high enough dosage. But for just about everyone 400 to
750mg a week of testosterone will work just fine.
Some of the cons of running Testosterone only cycle:
a. Limited gains if you keep the dosage reasonable. Most steroids have
a strong stringency with other types of steroids. So in effect your losing
out on gains that would bring little or no sides with them. And almost
everything stacks well with testosterone so it hard to justify not getting
the best bang for your buck.
b. Test only is bad for the tendons and ligaments. Here is a quote from
a article by AnimalMass on competitivemuscle.com (thanks Puddles for
giving this to me)
quote:
While injecting test increases protein syntesis by roughly 50 times,
depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce
collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the
collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up
tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very
heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back
to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the
tendons of a very old man.
Found this out the hard way. I have done some further research and while
no one agrees on how much or how bad they do agree that it happens.
c. Very little control on effects, i.e. with the bread and butter cycles
you can modify the effects with the type of gear you stack with the testosterone.
This one is a little iffy as you can run ancillary drugs and modify your
diet to achieve most anything. See a good example go read canadagold’s
post here: http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbull...&threadid=16753
There are 5 Testosterone esters that are commonly used. For the best
article I have read about the difference between esters and the reason
why go here: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articl...oid-esters.htm. <http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articl...ology/anabolic-
steroid-esters.htm.> Here is another (simpler) article regarding Testosterone
and its esters here :
Below is a brief description of each of the common esters of Testosterone.
While all esters should be same in theory that is not the case as the
esters do seam to affect some of the properties of the Testosterone despite
what the above article say. Then main differences being the amount of
water it causes you to hold and the intrinsic strength (long ester spread
the disruption out so shorter ester can act like they’re stronger) Be
aware that there are a lot more esters available it’s just that they
just aren’t common.
Testosterone Base has no ester and is commonly found as a waterborne
suspension. It is primarily used ware drug testing is problem or as the
oil based results of a conversion from cattle pellets. (See http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...hread.php?t=127
for info
on cattle pellets). Requires ED injections even as an oil based solution.
Testosterone Propionate is a short estered Testosterone that has a half-
life of about 4.5 days. This makes the need for frequent injections,
preferable every other day, every third day at least. Low water retention
make it a favorite for cutting cycles. Also it is excellent for jump
starting a cycle due to it short “kick in” time.
Testosterone Enanthate is a medium long ester with a half-life of 10.5
days. Has been said to cause more water retention then the Cypionate
ester but that is hard to explain or verify. The Enanthate ester is said
to be the more natural ester and less likely to cause a reaction. By
and large Testosterone Enanthate and Cypionate are close enough to be
interchangeable.
Testosterone Cypionate is a medium long ester with a half-life of 12
days. It is probably (not so much any more, but in old school) the most
popular ester of Testosterone. Was widely held to produce better gain
the Enanthate ester although this is not likely the case. It is said
to cause less water retention then the Enanthate but again this is hard
to explain or verify.
Testosterone Decanoate is a long estered Testosterone with a half-life
of 15 days. It is not as common as the above esters but is still found
fairly often as neo-test or as a component of sustanon. Sense this ester
of Testosterone take almost 6 weeks to fully “kick in” It is recommended
that the cycle length be at least 12 week or better.
Sustanon is not a ester of Testosterone but a blend of them, 12% being
Testosterone Propionate, 24% Testosterone Phenylpropionate, 24% Testosterone
Isocaproate, and 40% Testosterone Decanoate. This is not my favorite
concoction. In theory Sustanon 250 should be a twice a week shot. Having
said that I would say at least 3x a week (Mon, Wed, Fri). The Phenyl
Propionate is the problem here, it is suppose to have a longer half life
of around 6 to 7 days, putting it in the middle of the Test Isocaproate
(9 to 9.5 days) and the Test Propionate (4 to 5 days). The problem with
this is that if we look at the actual clinical half life of Nandrolone
Phenyl Propionate its not even close to that, if I recall correctly it
was almost the same as propionate. I have no reason to think that the
Test Phenyl Propionate will be any different. While this doesn’t actually
change much (the average half life is still going to be around 5.5 to
6 days instead of 6 to 7 days) it does kill the twice a week schedule
IMO as well as getting rid of the notion of “smooth blending of esters”
This is one reason I am not over fond of Sustanon, that and mixing in
an ester that 4 times as long as half of your mixture. Just my two cents.
Also refer back to
Basic Testosterone only cycle:
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 10 weeks
10mg of nolvadex ED for weeks 1 to 11
Start PCT (Post cycle therapy) week 12 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate
(Nolvadex) for 2 weeks then run 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.
Testosterone only cycle with a “kick start”
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 10 weeks
150mg of Testosterone Propionate EOD for the first week.
100mg of Testosterone Propionate EOD for the second week
100mg of Testosterone Propionate E3rd day.
10mg of nolvadex ED for weeks 1 to 11
Start PCT (Post cycle therapy) week 12 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate
(Nolvadex) for 2 weeks then run 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.
Front loaded Testosterone Cypionate only cycle.
Ether 1.5 grams the first week (not recommend, good way to get the test
flu) divided into 6shots with 500mg a week weeks 2 to 10
Or 750mg a week weeks 1 to 3 then 500mg a week weeks 4 to 10
Or 1gram the first week, 750mg the second week, then 500mg a week weeks
3 to 10.
Start PCT (Post cycle therapy) week 12 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate
(Nolvadex) for 2 weeks then run 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.
That PCT cycle is good for almost anything. For more information on PCT
and HCG go read : http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...hread.php?t=371
2. Bread and butter cycles are cycles consisting of 2 or more injectable
(one of witch is testosterone) with maybe an oral steroid to “jump start
the cycle). The term itself refers to the cycle being a basic (but effective)
cycle that usually tried and true. Most of these are from the old school
(referring to the times past when we did not have the PCT options or
knowledge that we do now). We now know that it is unnecessary and counter
productive to ramp up and down on dosages, use long esters to keep gains,
or to stack thing steroids according to the receptor type. Nonetheless
these still highly effective cycles that have been proven over time.
These cycles almost always combine a long estered Testosterone with another
long estered steroid, most notably Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) and Boldenolone
Undecylenate (Equipoise or EQ) with the option of running Methandrostenolone
(Dianabol or Dbol) for the fist part while waiting for the longer esters
to gradually build up. Testosterone Propionate or base can also be used
for this purpose. See here for information about the build up of esters
http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...hread.php?t=125
Bread and butter pros
a. Good gains, usually better then test alone mg per mg (depends on the
kind of steroid being ran). I am referring to running steroids that have
a good stringency with each other. See below for more info.
b. Almost always includes Deca or EQ; ether of is good for the tendons
and ligaments. This helps offset the testosterones tendency to reduce
collagen production. Here is another quote from the same article (http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...15711#post15711
)
quote:
Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase
procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary
indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see,
deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase
in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone
mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood
and
quote:
Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340%
- -- slightly better than deca.
c. Lot of flexibility on effects, i.e. by controlling what you run with
the test you can affect the types of gains you make (to a point that
is.) Again diet (especially) and ancillary drugs will make a huge difference.
d. You can also benefit from the other sides of different types of gear,
for instance EQ helps promote hunger and raises your red blood cell
count. Nandrolone Decanoate is known to hold fluid in the joints giving
a lubrication effect. As you can see there are several benefits to running
these steroids with test.
Cons:
See benefit of test only. Minus all of that and it cost a lot more.
Some of the common steroid used in a bread and butter. For a detailed
profile of the steroids below and all others go see : http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...display.php?f=5
http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbull...p?s=&forumid=26
and .
Testosterone of a medium or long ester as listed above as a base of the
cycle.
Boldenolone Undecylenate (EQ, Equipoise) helps promote hunger and raises
your red blood cell count. Tends to promote lean gains and/or to help
harden up. Has low water retention. Takes up to 6 weeks to kick in so
it is better suited for a longer (12 weeks or better) cycle. This is
a very mild/weak steroid that is often ran under dosed. Dosage should
start about 400mg a week (this is my opinion only here) and can be ran
up to 800 (people have ran it higher then that and told me later that
they though it was just a waste of gear) mg a week if you’re using it
as the base of your cycle. Both Nandrolone Decanoate and Boldenolone
Undecylenate are believed to help increase tendon and ligament strengths.
Please note that they still will not keep up with the muscle, there is
just less of a discrepancy there.
Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) is a fairly powerful steroid in its own right,
much more so then EQ. High water retention. Starting dosages 200 are
enough to gain the joint lubrication benefits of this hormone. For mass
(that is what Nandrolone Decanoate is really good for) dosages start
at around 300mg up to around 600mg a week (this is debatable here) It,
like the EQ, takes about 6 weeks to fully kick in. Both Nandrolone Decanoate
and Boldenolone Undecylenate are believed to help increase tendon and
ligament strengths. Please note that they still will not keep up with
the muscle, there is just less of a discrepancy there.
Stanozolol (Winny, Winstrol, Stromba) is a popular oral that I wonder
why anyone would take. It is popular because it is a very “dry” steroid
that helps provide that harden chiseled look. It also dries out your
joints (can we say arthritis like symptoms?) and tends to weaken your
tendons. Again see : http://www.chemicalfitness.com/foru...15711#post15711
for more
information. As like all 17-alpha alkylated (methylated, 17-alpha-methyl,
17-methyl group) steroids it is liver toxic and should not be ran over
6 weeks.
Methandrostenolone (Dianabol, Dbol, Anabol) is one of the more powerful
orals available. Unfortunately it has a lot of estrogen-mediated side-
effects as well has hold a lot of water (bloat). However a little goes
a long way with a starting does at around 25mg ed (divide to twice a
day is recommended) will deliver good gains while bring only moderate
side effects. 50mg seams to be about as high of a dose as most people
will use. If you’re looking to jump-start a cycle this is a good choice.
Surprisingly Methandrostenolone is also an excellent cutting drug when
ran with an aromatase inhibitor as it has a very strong anti carbolic
action, nearly that of trenbolone. As like all 17-alpha alkylated (methylated,
17-alpha-methyl, 17-methyl group) steroids it is liver toxic and should
not be ran over 6 weeks.
Oxymetholone (drol, A-bomb) is not a drug of choice for a first cycle.
Very bad on the side and very liver toxic the effects are compounded
by the high dosage necessary to see good results, anywhere from 75 to
200mg ED. To add injury to insult it makes many (me among them) fill
sick, kills your appetite, and make you lethargic. Some people do love
the stuff but there are safer and better options out there.
Some standard “Bread and Butter Cycles”:
Bulker:
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 14 weeks
400mg of Nandrolone Decanoate (one or two shots a week) a week for 13
weeks.
250iu HCG twice a week for weeks 1 to 4, then 3 times a week for weeks
5 to 15
10mg Tamoxifen Citrate every day weeks 1 to 15. That is 2 5,000iu amps
Start PCT week 16 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate every day for two weeks
then 20mg every day for another 2 week.
Big bulker:
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 14 weeks
400mg of Nandrolone Decanoate (one or two shots a week) a week for 13
weeks.
15 to 25mg of Methandrostenolone 2 twice a day for weeks 1 to 6.
250iu HCG twice a week for weeks 1 to 4, then 3 times a week for weeks
5 to 15
10mg Tamoxifen Citrate every day weeks 1 to 15. That is 2 5,000iu amps
Start PCT week 16 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate every day for two weeks
then 20mg every day for another 2 week.
Leaner gains cycle:
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week
for 14 weeks
500mg Boldenolone Undecylenate (one or two shots a week) a week for 13
weeks.
250iu HCG twice a week for weeks 5 to 15.
Start PCT week 16 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate every day for two weeks
then 20mg every day for another 2 week.
